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Post by flashblade on Sept 21, 2020 19:07:54 GMT
This is what I’d like to see:- Matt Prior - Director of Cricket Jon Lewis - Head Coach Chris Adams - Batting Coach James Kirtley - Pace Bowling Coach Ian Salisbury - Spin Bowling Coach Jason Swift - Team Analyst Could be a very expensive salary bill! I'm not sure that the club has the courage to address the Director of Cricket role - hope I'm wrong.
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Post by trolleybuss on Sept 21, 2020 19:11:42 GMT
Sounds good to me in fact excellent choices but does Matt have the time with his cycling team? Hope so. Get rid of Greenfield. Moores to return in that role would be nice.
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Post by flashblade on Sept 21, 2020 20:30:29 GMT
Sounds good to me in fact excellent choices but does Matt have the time with his cycling team? Hope so. Get rid of Greenfield. Moores to return in that role would be nice. These suggestions seem to be made on the basis that money is no object. Are you being serious, or just fantasising?
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Post by trolleybuss on Sept 21, 2020 21:08:10 GMT
Both. Serious changes are needed to stop the steady decline over the last 5 years. Of course money is needed but Greenfield has been a disaster and so has red ball cricket under dizzy. The names mentioned earlier are very sensible and are achievable if we want Sussex to improve. Matt or Moores at the very top and things will happen I am sure.
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Post by philh on Sept 22, 2020 5:07:18 GMT
The title of this thread makes it seem as though a contract to join Sussex CCC has been signed. Of course, it could equally apply if he is intending to drive far enough south down the M23 for any reason.
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Post by grandavefan on Sept 22, 2020 10:02:04 GMT
Fanciful! Too many ego's at the top. Want someone (somebodies) who have smaller ego's and can be team leaders over a period of time. Not sure some of these show that. I have been watching Kirtley, he's been below the surface, gaining trust always popular. He'd be my dark horse to be coach. Who do you think Matt Prior could attract? I have to say, he's been out the game for a few good years now. has he the gravitas needed to attract new players? You're looking to the past for solutions, not the future. Things take time, it goes in cycles. Sussex are on a slow upwards move. But for the virus? As for Moores, why? Lets sign Dexter, it's almost as silly, I don't think Greenfield has beenthe best. I feel he's got himself such a good deal with Zak etc. that he'll be hard to get rid of.
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Post by trolleybuss on Sept 22, 2020 11:22:22 GMT
Totally disagree. How can you say Sussex are moving upwards? Were going backwards especially red ball cricket which has been embarrassing under dizzy. Signing players that are too old and ones that are simply not good enough. Need I say more? Have you forgotten Moores helped win us our first ever title was England coach and doesn't appear to be doing a bad job with Notts. He is just the sort of person we need. As for Matt not being able to attract anyone decent. Laughable thing to say. We need a complete clear out otherwise we will be in div 2 for a very long time.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Sept 22, 2020 11:32:58 GMT
Peter Moores is my choice to be new Head Coach, but this is all down to timing. Moores has stated on record he would like to coach Sussex again as his final swansong before retirement. He has acres of experience and success. He and Adams have already worked very successfully together leading to the 2003 Championship Trophy, so egos have been tested with a culminating tick.
In a perfect world my choice would be:
Head Coach: Peter Moores Batting/Mental Coach: Chris Adams Bowling Coaching: James Kirtley
Get rid of the Director of Cricket role. This was falsely created by Zak Toumazi to simply appease the sacking of Mark Robinson. When, not surprisingly, Robbo turned it down after a futile weekend with Zak at a Cotswolds Hotel, with some embarrassment Zak had nowhere else to go, but the ever faithful and 'part of the furniture' Greenfield. A small club like Sussex does not require a DOC, especially when finances are now so tight.
Re: Rob Andrew, I still question whether he wishes to remain at Sussex. For what reason? It certainly isn't the money and now with all the additional difficulties put on him by Covid, it ain't any less stressful than his time at the RFU.
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Post by trolleybuss on Sept 22, 2020 11:51:24 GMT
Well said. Couldn't agree with you more or should I say Moores!! Dream team with Matt involved too. It must be an improvement on the current set up. Goodbye dizzy Greenfield and Swift.
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 23, 2020 16:07:29 GMT
Presumably Gillespie was on a massive wage, so we might have that to play with while trying to secure the dream team. The way things are though, the dream team will probably remain exactly that. Anyone should be affordable for head honcho though. After that, not a lot I reckon.
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Post by joe on Sept 24, 2020 6:25:59 GMT
Unless we go down the player/coach route temporarily to save money. Perhaps Chris Nash for red ball, Luke Wright for white ball?
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Post by grandavefan on Sept 24, 2020 9:37:25 GMT
What has Moores done at Notts? One of the wealthiest clubs, got them relegated and ? With all those resources (Money), nothing to be proud of. England coach, upset the stars. They got rid of him, twice. Had his time, was very good in that era. Can't turn the clock back. Prior, attract players? Who? He's only been a part time pundit. Missed his calling? Reputation means little to players if coaches/managers (even captains) are not honest. If the club has NO MONEY how do they attract? WC, you going to get your hand in your pocket? The rest of you? I doubt it. Reality, you (we) will be stuck with what we have and can afford. Nash? Why do you think he was passed over for captain? You think Dizzy failed? You honestly thought he could bring the same results as Yorkshire? For me the reasons are easy, see why Finch & Wells have left. Not enough runs from batsmen at 1 & 3. He got a few moving forward? Salt & Evans, 3 bowlers involved with England. Any other small counties have that? No. T20 final. IMO lost by the star bowlers who went round the ground at the end against Worcs. His fault?
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Post by trolleybuss on Sept 24, 2020 12:34:02 GMT
Very negative post and totally unfair. Dizzy has failed. What do you not get about that? I was at the Northants game at Hove. Embarrassing and worst defeat in our history. More evidence? Claydon Thomason Bopara sacking Nash and Wright from red ball cricket not dropping Wells last season when completely out of form. Sure Matt has far more contacts than you can imagine. Sussex through and through like grizz. Of course there are never any guarantees in sport but Moores Grizz and Matt couldn't do any worse than dizzy Greenfield and Swift. Give em a chance rather than being blatantly negative. Dizzy and co have failed.
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 24, 2020 17:59:33 GMT
Fair point about Moores though.
Has anyone ever had a player/coach in cricket Joe? There's probably loads. Frankly, anyone is an improvement in the longer game. Anyone. Gillespie clearly couldn't care less about this form. Although to be fair, that was the spec from Andrew. For all our longer form woes there's been no such failings in T20 recruitment, starting with the glorified coach. We have had one of, if not the best T20 side for the last three years. Yet we have won nothing. That can still change of course and hopefully it will. We need it.
I see Jordan is sat on his arse already at the IPL. He usually is. Should be here playing with his team.
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Sept 24, 2020 21:58:34 GMT
Very negative post and totally unfair. Dizzy has failed. What do you not get about that? I was at the Northants game at Hove. Embarrassing and worst defeat in our history. More evidence? Claydon Thomason Bopara sacking Nash and Wright from red ball cricket not dropping Wells last season when completely out of form. Sure Matt has far more contacts than you can imagine. Sussex through and through like grizz. Of course there are never any guarantees in sport but Moores Grizz and Matt couldn't do any worse than dizzy Greenfield and Swift. Give em a chance rather than being blatantly negative. Dizzy and co have failed. Sacking Nash and Wright from red ball cricket?!?😳😳 Nash left of his own accord (and had been playing 4-day cricket up to his departure) and it was Wright’s decision to only play one day cricket. Jeeez, some of the stuff on here has been dream world. People say we haven’t got any money, then want these legend-filled dream coaching teams out together!!!🤦♂️
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