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Post by Sussexsupporter on May 14, 2014 8:39:57 GMT
I see Panesar played in a 20 over game for Essex v Sri Lankans at Chelmsford under lights last night and did rather well. Sussex's reluctance to use him in white ball cricket was one of the reasons he wanted to get away from Hove, wasn't it?
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Post by Sussexsupporterr on May 14, 2014 9:33:15 GMT
And according to one report this morning Essex expect Panesar to be named ahead of Moeen Ali and James Tredwell in the Englansd twelve for the First Test next month. Presumably their source for this is A. Cook so the chances must be that it is true.
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Post by flashblade on May 14, 2014 9:41:33 GMT
Interesting. . .
I'd like to see Monty back to his best.
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Post by fraudster on May 14, 2014 18:31:37 GMT
I see Panesar played in a 20 over game for Essex v Sri Lankans at Chelmsford under lights last night and did rather well. Sussex's reluctance to use him in white ball cricket was one of the reasons he wanted to get away from Hove, wasn't it? The reluctance came from us giving him plenty of chances in one-day cricket and him bowlin darts, tripping about in the field and offering nothing with the bat. He should be in the test side though, him or Riley. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2014 17:27:32 GMT
Interesting. . . I'd like to see Monty back to his best. I think he is. He seems to have bowled superbly in the game Essex have just lost to Saeed Ajmal-shire, with 5 for 23 from 19 overs in the second innings. He now has 21 f/c wickets this season at an average of 20 - and just as tellingly, a third of the 150 overs he has bowled have been maidens. Whatever the rights and wrongs of his departure, I'd say Sussex are already missing him. |
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Post by grandavefan on May 21, 2014 8:31:43 GMT
What 1 loss so far? Look at the fielding at Lords! Not missed at all, Hove a happier place without him.
Read how the wicket played at Worcester, how did Ajmal bowl? That's the difference.
Sorry I don't see it. let's move on and lets keep Panesar off the Sussex board, let's keep it for Sussex players, let's talk them up.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 9:24:38 GMT
I hope this board isn't a place "only for Sussex players" to be discussed. We had this on the old board when someone - I think it was sweatysock - said that as Panesar was no longer a Sussex player he had no further interest in him and didn't want to read his name again. Which reminds me - we haven't had your daily KP bulletin for some time, s&f. Has the great man upset you in some way?  Meanwhile, Sussex's lack of quality spin options is a genuine concern in my book and could well prevent us from sustaining a challenge for the championship title. But that's just my opinion, of course, and your view that we're not missing anything in the spin department is equally valid. I guess we will have to wait for the end of the season and see how many wickets and maidens Zaidi contributes to the cause to make an objective judgement. |
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Post by grandavefan on May 21, 2014 10:29:30 GMT
About time Beer had a go.
As for quality, unless you give young players the opportunity to play at a higher level you'll never know if they can aspire to the level or not.
Panesar was lucky to play in a poor Nothants team and get the chance and develop. Beer has not had that luxury. He has I think proved his worth in 1 day cricket.
Finally I tend to agree what swaetsock felt.
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Post by doug on May 21, 2014 17:19:06 GMT
Grandavefan posts:
About time Beer had a go.
As for quality, unless you give young players the opportunity to play at a higher level you'll never know if they can aspire to the level or not.
Panesar was lucky to play in a poor Nothants team and get the chance and develop. Beer has not had that luxury. He has I think proved his worth in 1 day cricket.
Finally I tend to agree what swaetsock felt
Watching Beer bowl on the box at Lords it would seem that he needs a lot more time playing at a higher level than the seconds but can Robbo afford to give him that time?
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Post by fraudster on May 21, 2014 18:55:18 GMT
Grandavefan posts: About time Beer had a go. As for quality, unless you give young players the opportunity to play at a higher level you'll never know if they can aspire to the level or not. Panesar was lucky to play in a poor Nothants team and get the chance and develop. Beer has not had that luxury. He has I think proved his worth in 1 day cricket. Finally I tend to agree what swaetsock felt Watching Beer bowl on the box at Lords it would seem that he needs a lot more time playing at a higher level than the seconds but can Robbo afford to give him that time? Well why not? If he replaces Zaidi he'll struggle to deliver less with bat or ball. He did a lot more before being inexplicably dropped from the four day side last season. What he's done to be dropped from the one-day side I don't know - either. I know that not many people in the game trust a young player, and Robbo and Joyce are right at the top of that list. Think he's 25 now though. It should be now or never as far as his Sussex career is concerned. There's a big gap. |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 21, 2014 21:54:31 GMT
Am a big fan of Beer and disappointed like others that Robbo does not give him a fair crack of the whip. But I believe there is an issue involved which transpired after talking with our club coach. One of confidence, self belief and character. He has the ability but does he have the self belief to go with it? He develops bit by bit not stride by stride like Machan. Is he too timid - a little too shy?
But then Robbo lost faith in Ollie too. He may have an empathy for seamers but what of spinners?
Sadly, like Ollie, Will may have to seek out another club and find a coach who has more faith in him.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 7:02:55 GMT
Read how the wicket played at Worcester, how did Ajmal bowl? That's the difference. He bowled with a bent arm. That's the difference! |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 2, 2014 10:53:33 GMT
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Post by fraudster on Jun 2, 2014 18:59:48 GMT
Jesus he only turned up late for work. I do it all the time and I ain't having a breakdown - although if I do you'll be the first to know Fluffy. Essex are doing the right thing but people should concentrate more on his on-pitch efforts, and I believe he's doing alright. Good ol' Monty, we need a spinner don't we...?
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Post by flashblade on Jun 2, 2014 19:47:53 GMT
Jesus he only turned up late for work. I do it all the time and I ain't having a breakdown - although if I do you'll be the first to know Fluffy. Essex are doing the right thing but people should concentrate more on his on-pitch efforts, and I believe he's doing alright. Good ol' Monty, we need a spinner don't we...? I agree. I wonder why Essex wanted to publicise Monty's heinous crime. Why not just quietly discipline him - instead of subjecting him to further unnecessary public humiliation? |
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