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Post by flashblade on Aug 17, 2021 16:10:13 GMT
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Post by liquidskin on Aug 17, 2021 18:20:00 GMT
This is the consequence of playing joke cricket competitions! Wake up ECB before its too late your morons! Time to drop Burns, Sibley and Curran. Yes, but don't blame The Hundred, which has only demoted the 50 over competition. If you scrap The Hundred, you don't find more time for county cricket. The problem is more fundamental. Question: what would your favoured domestic cricket calendar look like? Fundamentally simple. The money spinners take calendar precedence - T20 domestic, Hundred and England any form. There's no room for Championship cricket in the middle and that's that. Especially with a new domestic money spinner in town, which is going nowhere. Sharkey, look at the numbers and listen to the players, it's been a huge success. It hasn't ever been free either, unless you're under 5. All they need to do now is work out how to get domestic internationals in there for the duration, like the IPL do. As for England, worse test side ever. It's not the calendar though. Would KP, Flintoff, Tres and the likes be held back by a calendar? No. This cycle of players just happens to be s**t. The top 3 anyway. I think Burns, Crawley and Malan are the answer for now. Unless Tommy can get a gig already? |
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Post by philh on Aug 18, 2021 13:17:53 GMT
This is the consequence of playing joke cricket competitions! Wake up ECB before its too late your morons! Time to drop Burns, Sibley and Curran. Yes, but don't blame The Hundred, which has only demoted the 50 over competition. If you scrap The Hundred, you don't find more time for county cricket. The problem is more fundamental. Question: what would your favoured domestic cricket calendar look like? The fact of the matter is that the English summer is too short for four forms of cricket (or, five including 5-day cricket). The second fundamental problem is that The T20 Blast and The Hundred cannot clash with the IPL and has to be played in a concentrated window as the overseas stars would not come otherwise. One solution would be to spread the T20 over the course of the season, slotting in games on Friday nights, for example. Personally, I think it is OK if this prevents some overseas players taking part in the T20 Blast; the big downside is that players who play red and white ball cricket will be switching formats week in week out. The other problem, which I know supporters from many counties suffer, is the number of England games crammed into a season. This has three negative effects. 1) Players out of form get no chance to get some easier runs/wickets 2) Counties rarely see their best players perform 3) Fringe players end up not playing at all and only improve their drink-carrying skills There is no perfect solution. While I would personally prefer the T20 Blast to take place in December and The Hundred in January, I fully accept what the public wants and, more worryingly, perhaps, what the players want. My impression is that you need to be a Test-playing red ball player to earn the same as an average Hundred player. I may be wrong, but I am sure being a white ball specialist brings better rewards. The best I can come up with is this: April to early May - RLODC (this improves its status from this season, only losing IPL players) second half of May, June, July, September - CC with two divisions (Sunday to Wednesday) with T20 on Friday nights - maybe a concentrated block of T20 in July for two weeks August - The Hundred It's not ideal, but I would say better than what we have now. Thoughts, anyone? |
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 19, 2021 17:52:41 GMT
Return to two divisions with 14 games. No need to expand the county championship. Play the whole of the T20 and 50 over competitions in a block.
Support for the hundred will die once the free ticket go and the money from Sky dries up when there is empty grounds in years 2-5.
T20 is a big money spinner for counties (more so than the hundred).
I agree that we should go back to two divisions, on the assumption that the best players will end up in division 1. Then the standard of competition in Div 1 will be higher and more likely to produce decent test cricketers. That, after all, is the main (only?) justification for the CC's existence nowadays. There are already 14 CC matches in the calendar, but they are nearly all in April, May and September. Red ball cricket is no longer a summer sport! This is because the counties want to fill the summer months with white ball cricket, because that's the best time to attract white ball audiences. The question is - assuming The Hundred proves to be a failure, how (if at all) would you want to alter the existing calendar? People attend football in all weather and all seasons why not cricket? Put the hundred in October to March. |
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Post by liquidskin on Aug 19, 2021 18:28:17 GMT
They wouldn't even consider playing these tournaments in April/IPL Phil, gotta be the height of the English summer to maximise the reddies.
One of two things needs to happen. You either scrap a tournament or you shorten all comps. I think the Hundred has been spot on with 8 games, a semi and a final. 12 or 14 group games is too many. I think they should shorten the CC and T20 Bash to a similar amount of games. Also, with T20 and Hundred, they could play a lot more games in a shorter amount of time - one every other day at least. That would rattle through it.
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Post by flashblade on Aug 19, 2021 18:59:56 GMT
I agree that we should go back to two divisions, on the assumption that the best players will end up in division 1. Then the standard of competition in Div 1 will be higher and more likely to produce decent test cricketers. That, after all, is the main (only?) justification for the CC's existence nowadays. There are already 14 CC matches in the calendar, but they are nearly all in April, May and September. Red ball cricket is no longer a summer sport! This is because the counties want to fill the summer months with white ball cricket, because that's the best time to attract white ball audiences. The question is - assuming The Hundred proves to be a failure, how (if at all) would you want to alter the existing calendar? People attend football in all weather and all seasons why not cricket? Put the hundred in October to March. I was asking how you'd like to re-arrange the season if The Hundred had failed and vanished. How would you spread the 3 traditional comps over the calendar? Cricket in the winter - seriously?  |
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 28, 2021 18:42:58 GMT
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Post by flashblade on Aug 28, 2021 19:14:22 GMT
That's because they all want to be selected in the next draft! |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 29, 2021 8:02:57 GMT
philh,
It's not ideal, but I would say better than what we have now.
Thoughts, anyone?
There is an out-of-the-box scenario to resolve the dilemma of
too much cricket played during the summer.
Taking coverpoint's winter approach, play the T20 in a block at a warm overseas
country (Dubai is a popular place, at present) between January and March. Then
live-stream the games for the counties and allow them to charge supporters for
watching. This would make up for the "live-match" revenue lost.
Agreed, Winter is the primary period for football, but this sport suffocates cricket
during the summer too, especially in an International year which is every two years.
What has cricket got to lose?
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 29, 2021 17:25:55 GMT
England squad: Joe Root, Moeen Ali, James Anderson, Jonny Bairstow, Sam Billings, Rory Burns, Sam Curran, Haseeb Hameed, Dan Lawrence, Dawid Malan, Craig Overton, Ollie Pope, Ollie Robinson, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood
My final XI
Burns
Hammed
Malan
Root (c)
Bairstow wk
Pope
Ali
Woakes
Robinson
Overton
Anderson
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 6, 2021 15:42:55 GMT
Sorry negative bar stewards. Root the wrong man.
Could be the Hundred's fault though.
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 11, 2021 10:44:00 GMT
Well well well. The IPL strikes back. We should sue the BCICIC whatever. Totally ruined my weekend, now I have to talk and listen to people instead.
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Post by flashblade on Sept 11, 2021 10:48:54 GMT
Well well well. The IPL strikes back. We should sue the BCICIC whatever. Totally ruined my weekend, now I have to talk and listen to people instead.and write stuff on the interweb. |
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Post by flashblade on Sept 11, 2021 10:49:51 GMT
Well well well. The IPL strikes back. We should sue the BCICIC whatever. Totally ruined my weekend, now I have to talk and listen to people instead.and write stuff on the interweb . . . |
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 11, 2021 10:50:28 GMT
Interweb? You're very creative Flash, thank you for the interweb.
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