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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 17:40:34 GMT
A "surprise choice", according to cricinfo - another way of admitting that in all their numerous articles saying Richard Gould would get the job, Harrison never got a single mention in their lists of runners and riders, not even as a long-shot.
Second time this year cricinfo has been caught on the hop over a senior ECB appointment. They named at least a dozen people as contenders for the MD of the England team but never once mentioned Paul Downton until they reported his appointment. They called him a "surprise choice", too.
It's good to know that the infamously leaky ECB can, after all, keep some things quiet. But I'm increasingly reaching the stage when I don't trust anything cricinfo says any more.
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Post by leedsgull on Oct 7, 2014 17:50:45 GMT
I am inclined to agree with your description of Cricinfo. Instead of being a fact based serious cricket site they seem hell bent on going downmarket with spurious sensationalism. One wonders who they think there target audience actually are?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 18:33:35 GMT
I am inclined to agree with your description of Cricinfo. Instead of being a fact based serious cricket site they seem hell bent on going downmarket with spurious sensationalism. One wonders who they think there target audience actually are? Us? That may well be the answer. Us - as in gossipy old men who use chat forums such as this to exchange uncorroborated pieces of wild speculation while drinking a glass of red wine or two. It's a perfectly acceptable - and enjoyable - modus operandi for the Unofficial Sussex Cricket Forum, but it's a disastrous model for a major international website which claims to be a reputable news gathering organisation and enjoys tens of thousands of hits per day from all over the world. And it leads to such idiotic situations as cricinfo telling us all in the space of one week that Ashley Giles is set to be the new coach of three different counties (Somerset/Leics/Lancs).
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 7, 2014 18:40:49 GMT
That may well be the answer. Us - as in gossipy old men who use chat forums such as this to exchange uncorroborated pieces of wild speculation while drinking a glass of red wine or two. It's a perfectly acceptable - and enjoyable - modus operandi for the Unofficial Sussex Cricket Forum, but it's a disastrous model for a major international website which claims to be a reputable news gathering organisation and enjoys tens of thousands of hits per day from all over the world. And it leads to such idiotic situations as cricinfo telling us all in the space of one week that Ashley Giles is set to be the new coach of three different counties (Somerset/Leics/Lancs). Doesn't much help the g.o.m with sorting out the wheat from the chaff - all right for these well-connected young whippersnappers like soft and fluffy but damn difficult when one lives out in the wilds with only the wine merchant's van and it's weekly visit to connect one with society.
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Post by flashblade on Oct 7, 2014 19:31:08 GMT
That may well be the answer. Us - as in gossipy old men who use chat forums such as this to exchange uncorroborated pieces of wild speculation while drinking a glass of red wine or two. It's a perfectly acceptable - and enjoyable - modus operandi for the Unofficial Sussex Cricket Forum, but it's a disastrous model for a major international website which claims to be a reputable news gathering organisation and enjoys tens of thousands of hits per day from all over the world. And it leads to such idiotic situations as cricinfo telling us all in the space of one week that Ashley Giles is set to be the new coach of three different counties (Somerset/Leics/Lancs). Blimey, BM - I'll have to stop taking you seriously!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 20:12:31 GMT
Blimey, BM - I'll have to stop taking you seriously! Yep. That would be a big mistake, Mike. But when you say you will have to STOP taking me seriously, can I say that I am both surprised and flattered by the implication that once upon a time you did!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 18:09:58 GMT
The new ECB chief executive Tom Harrison arrives after possibly the worst 12 months I can remember in all my 50+ years following English cricket. And I was wondering where Mr Harrison starts with the mountain of problems in his in tray.
ENGLAND Of the party that lost the Ashes 5-0 less than a year ago, one walked out halfway through the tour ; one had a mental breakdown; the highest run-scorer was sacked ; two coaches who forgot how to win were manoeuvred out; the wicket-keeper became a crock; the leading spinner was sacked by his county for off-field problems; the second spinner wasn’t good enough to get in his county side and was sent out on loan; the leading quick bowler managed to escape an ICC ban but his foul-mouthed and loutish behaviour left an indelible stain on his team; and the opening batsman lost form so badly that he would not have retained his place in the side except that he happens to be the captain.
The ECB then lost the media battle to a spiteful and out-for-revenge Kevin Pietersen, who with the aid of a skilled ghost writer skilfully twisted the knife in an already gaping wound. And England now go into the 2015 world cup as sixth favourites in the betting (which seems rather generous under the circumstances).
Perhaps the new CEO won’t care as long as the Ashes sell out in summer 2015. For as the frequently hysterical but occasionally perceptive George Dobell writes: “That, in the end, is what England cricket is all about: not excellence; not success but another opportunity to squeeze a few more pounds out of the business.”
COUNTY CRICKET
If Team England gives the new CEO an unpleasant headache, the state of county cricket is an industrial-strength migraine.
He inherits an utterly bonkers summer programme which has county chief executives and treasurers in open revolt (Sussex’s chairman says the schedule reduced the county’s income considerably in 2014 and as far as I know not a single county chairman/CEO/treasurer has said ‘well done, ECB, this is really working well’).
The abandonment of one-day cricket on Sundays; the extension of T20 to empty grounds on Friday nights under floodlights in freezing conditions in May; the dearth of box-office overseas players as a result of the bizarre scheduling; average T20 attendances down on 2013 (and perhaps the lowest ever in the competition’s history?); the banishment of first-class cricket in August for a hopeless 50 over comp nobody wants (2,200 at a q/f in Canterbury, 3,000 at an s/f at Edgbaston and vast swathes of empty seats at the worst-selling one day final in the history of the 47 years that Lord’s has been staging such matches); Div Two reduced to little more than feeder teams for the top counties; Essex bellyaching that Worcs were promoted illegally as someone at the ICC has retrospectively ruled that Ajmal is a chucker; the champions Yorkshire breaking off diplomatic relations with Lord’s over Andrew Gale being charged with racism; and many counties due to report their lowest membership and worst pay-at-the-gate numbers since county cricket was invented.
Good luck, Tom Harrison.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Oct 12, 2014 19:58:54 GMT
bm, Although not as bad as one of the 'Grauniad's' more famous blunders. In our interview with Sir Jack Hayward, the chairman of Wolverhampton Wanderers, page 20, Sport, yesterday, we mistakenly attributed to him the following comment: "Our team was the worst in the First Division and I'm sure it'll be the worst in the Premier League." Sir Jack had just declined the offer of a hot drink. What he actually said was "Our tea was the worst in the First Division and I'm sure it'll be the worst in the Premier League." Profuse apologies.www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2003/aug/12/correctionsandclarifications(Hooray, I am now a 1st team player!)
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Post by mrsdoyle on Oct 12, 2014 22:02:16 GMT
Working in a school I hate no first class cricket in August, the one month when I can attend during the week. Had the one day matches been 40 over affairs I would have settled for that but I am not a fan of 50 over games. If the ECB could be persuaded to rethink their scheduling, and the ICC the length of ODI's I for one would be very happy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 7:55:38 GMT
Harrison's primary area of expertise is TV rights, a field in which he has worked extensively. There is a suggestion that this is the main reason for his appointment and when the domestic TV rights to English cricket come up for renewal (2017, I think) that he will seek to expand revenues by selling rights packages to two different broadcasters - Sky and BT Sport.
Some are appalled by the prospect of paying two subscriptions to watch cricket but it sounds like a very attractive proposition. Sky covers a tiny, tiny fraction of domestic county cricket so there is scope not only for Sky to continue with their current level of coverage but for us to have additional live county cricket on BT Sport, too.
2017 is a long time to wait, and I wonder if Mr Harrison could before then try to come to an arrangement with Sky to permit the ECB to sell coverage of four day county cricket to BT Sport? Sky's contract may give them sole rights but as they are uniniterested in the LVCC (they showed two games all season, I believe, out of 288 LVCC matches) to block such a move would be motivated by a cynical commercial interest designed purely to keep BT Sport out of live cricket coverage and protect market share. As such it would be a PR disaster for them and result in a huge loss of public good will. If Mr Harrison is as smart a wheeler-dealer in the world of TV rights as is claimed, perhaps it will not be beyond his skills to broker an arrangement that gives BT Sport coverage of four day matches, which Sky refuses to cover.
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Post by freddy838 on Oct 13, 2014 9:53:51 GMT
Who is going to watch Championship cricket on TV? I really doubt BT will pay any money to show it. The best I hope for is BT make a joint bid with the BBC or another terrestrial network so at least some Test cricket is back on regular TV.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 10:39:53 GMT
Who is going to watch Championship cricket on TV? I really doubt BT will pay any money to show it. The best I hope for is BT make a joint bid with the BBC or another terrestrial network so at least some Test cricket is back on regular TV. I just turned on BT Sport and channel one is showing a basketball game between two teams called Cavaliers and Heat and channel two is showing a "soccer" match between Red Bulls and Toronto - so they seem to be pretty desperate!
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Post by mrsdoyle on Oct 13, 2014 18:10:28 GMT
Who is going to watch Championship cricket on TV? I really doubt BT will pay any money to show it. The best I hope for is BT make a joint bid with the BBC or another terrestrial network so at least some Test cricket is back on regular TV. Having cricket split between two subscription channels really is the worst possible solution. Having it back on terrestrial the best. Not that bothered whether it is BBC, ITV3 or channel 4. Unlikely to happen I know because money talks but one can dream.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 18:45:08 GMT
It's only the worst possible solution, Mrs D, if it means the same amount of currently televised cricket split between two subscription broadcasters. But that is not what will happen. If you look at the Premier League, Sky has exactly the same number of matches now that it had before BT Sport arrived. All of the matches on BT Sport are above and beyond the number of games that were previously available to view. At present, the vast majority of English county cricket matches are not televised - even in the T20 Bash. If BT Sport offers additional coverage of cricket to that which is currently on Sky, what is there to complain about? More cricket matches live on TV than we have access to at present has to be good news, surely?
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Post by mrsdoyle on Oct 13, 2014 19:01:05 GMT
It's only the worst possible solution, Mrs D, if it means the same amount of currently televised cricket split between two subscription broadcasters. But that is not what will happen. If you look at the Premier League, Sky has exactly the same number of matches now that it had before BT Sport arrived. All of the matches on BT Sport are above and beyond the number of games that were previously available to view. At present, the vast majority of English county cricket matches are not televised - even in the T20 Bash. If BT Sport offers additional coverage of cricket to that which is currently on Sky, what is there to complain about? More cricket matches live on TV than we have access to at present has to be good news, surely? Were BT Sports to offer some cricket coverage they would surely want the rights to some Test Matches, so in practice to continue to watch all the tests on TV people would have to subscribe to both.
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