maxh
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Post by maxh on Nov 28, 2014 11:04:32 GMT
Incredible.
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Post by hhsussex on Nov 28, 2014 11:04:43 GMT
First reactions (all Championship oriented):
Delighted to see that the Horsham and Arundel fixtures both retained, and with no TBC after them. We therefore assume that all of the financial problems that Jim May talked about last year affecting both grounds have been satisfactorily resolved and there will be no need to call in borderman's grand.
Although no 4 day cricket at Hove from 10 June until 21 August, the spread seems to have worked a little more favourably this year for Sussex supporters. Not only do we have the 21 August game against Yorkshire - and that really should get the crowds in if any - but there is the 7th August game against Middlesex at Lords as an option.
Top-heavy in the months of April and May, particularly at Hove, but that is the fault of the blasted Blast.
The Sunday idea is completely shelved after the blast is over - so much for marketing surveys
Last game of the season could be championship decider: 22 Sept at Headingley
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Post by hhsussex on Nov 28, 2014 11:46:54 GMT
For those who would prefer it, an Excel version of the fixture list with filters for One day, home and away etc, and also with colums for recording points and places, where applicable. Sussex2015Fixtures.xlsx (11.01 KB)
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Post by deepextracover on Nov 28, 2014 15:38:10 GMT
For those who enjoy taking in different locations and making the most of the leisure facilities in the evenings, a welcome return to Swansea this year will be interesting.
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Post by invicta1977 on Nov 28, 2014 15:45:24 GMT
First reactions (all Championship oriented): Delighted to see that the Horsham and Arundel fixtures both retained, and with no TBC after them. We therefore assume that all of the financial problems that Jim May talked about last year affecting both grounds have been satisfactorily resolved and there will be no need to call in borderman's grand. Yes, I'm relieved that, after considerable negative speculation, both Horsham and Tunbridge Wells have retained their CC matches. Not only are they delightful places to watch cricket, they are also part of The Weald - it is surely right that county cricket should continue to be played in the place where our great game was born? As a Kent boy first and Essex man second, I'm sorry that there are no enticing CC away trips on offer but it's good to see Beckenham back and a B&H game up at Radlett, potentially a new ground for me. I like Arundel starting on a Monday again too, that'll be useful. Now to work out how to weave some Hove visits into my schedule.....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 18:05:38 GMT
Trying to follow fixtures on mobile phone in Lisbon and its not easy to switch between screens, but am I right in thinking our weald weeks in Horsham and Tunbridge Wells clash? Thats one way of stopping reciprocal use. But it is also completely bloody daft.
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Post by longhops on Nov 28, 2014 18:19:29 GMT
Trying to follow fixtures on mobile phone in Lisbon and its not easy to switch between screens, but am I right in thinking our weald weeks in Horsham and Tunbridge Wells clash? Thats one way of stopping reciprocal use. But it is also completely bloody daft. BM I can confirm that cricket at Tunbridge Wells and Horsham both clash this year. Both set to start on Sun 19th July. Have print outs of Kent & Sussex fixtures in front of me. Looking to see which county will provide the best value for money. Yet again use Educators get punished as there will be no Championship cricket at Hove during August, when I will be free to take in some cricket, sun & sea! A quick glance tells me that Sussex seem to be playing home games at the same time as Kent play their home games.
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Post by invicta1977 on Nov 28, 2014 18:20:44 GMT
Trying to follow fixtures on mobile phone in Lisbon and its not easy to switch between screens, but am I right in thinking our weald weeks in Horsham and Tunbridge Wells clash? Thats one way of stopping reciprocal use. But it is also completely bloody daft. Yes, that's correct. It's a rare year when two Home Counties festivals don't clash but this is particularly annoying.
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Post by longhops on Nov 28, 2014 18:31:36 GMT
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Post by flashblade on Nov 28, 2014 18:54:19 GMT
This is spin of the highest (or should it be lowest?) order. At the start of the video, they say the 2014 fixture structure was so successful (after consulting the public !!!!), that they've decided to keep the same structure for 2015. Frankly, to anyone who follows the county game, that's totally laughable. How can we respect a body that delivers such verbal garbage? Who are they kidding? We know that SCCC is not happy with the structure, and has made its views known to the ECB. We also suspect that other counties support this view. I wonder if the ECB are stuck with the current sponsorship deals, and that this has tied their hands. I just hope the wretched 50 over sponsorship runs out at the end of 2015. Sorry if this comes across as a rant, but I am fed up with the cricketing authorities continually insulting our intelligence. Does anyone agree? Is it worth someone constructing a poll on the 2015 fixture list?
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Post by hhsussex on Nov 29, 2014 11:45:56 GMT
Just as a sidelight on the use of time available for playing matches in the ever-lengthening season, the following is of interest:
In 2015, if Sussex get through to the finals of both cup competitions, the maximum number of games played (all First class plus T20 and 50 over) will be 46, occupying 93 playing days, out of a total elapsed number of days (from 2 April to 25 September) of 176.
In 1961, Jimmy Binks kept wicket for Yorkshire in all their 32 championship games and their 7 other first class fixtures. The Yorkshire season was therefore 39 games, 117 playing days, and this was accomplished in an elasped period of 139 days from 29 April to 15 September. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if he didn't play in a few benefit matches on his Sundays off.
I'm not advocating a return to that kind of treadmill, but it ought to be possible to give customers better value from the season than a 53% playing days to total season length ratio.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 29, 2014 12:12:29 GMT
fb,
I wonder if the ECB are stuck with the current sponsorship deals, and that this has tied their hands.
That sounds about right. Remember the ECB have stated these formats will remain "until at least" 2017, so no amount of criticism will change their entrenched view, strengthened by the duration of the present sponsorship deals.
As for the public voting for this, I would suggest tosh. You can gain what you want to gain from a poll by asking the right questions; and the ECB designed the questionnaire in such a way that it would show support for what they wanted to do even before the poll was created.
The ECB rule the roost so both the counties and public must put up with it.
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Post by flashblade on Nov 29, 2014 12:37:49 GMT
fb, I wonder if the ECB are stuck with the current sponsorship deals, and that this has tied their hands. That sounds about right. Remember the ECB have stated these formats will remain "until at least" 2017, so no amount of criticism will change their entrenched view, strengthened by the duration of the present sponsorship deals. As for the public voting for this, I would suggest tosh. You can gain what you want to gain from a poll by asking the right questions; and the ECB designed the questionnaire in such a way that it would show support for what they wanted to do even before the poll was created.The ECB rule the roost so both the counties and public must put up with it. Yes, I remember grappling with that questionnaire! As I waded through it, I had an increasingly uneasy sensation that I was being pushed towards certain answers. And, IIRC, we were not asked about the ECB's (subsequently revealed) determination to change from 40 overs to 50 overs. I think they justified that on the grounds that we needed to ensure we had a strong England 50 over team!!!!!! I find the structure and administration of English cricket increasingly depressing, I'm afraid.
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Post by mrsdoyle on Nov 30, 2014 20:07:56 GMT
In my humble opinion Internationals should be 40 overs a side. That way they can miss out the boring middle overs and don't have to resort to ever more complicated ruses to liven them up, (power plays, two white balls etc.). The players would surely prefer it as it would cut down on their work load, the powers that be surely wouldn't mind as they would probably charge the same ticket prices anyway, and methinks think the public would also like it, as the shorter the game the more popular it is generally. It would also mean there would be more extra time available to make up for rain breaks etc. so we don't have to resort to the DL method of deciding who won so often. Job done lol.
On edit, I might add that switching the domestic game to 50 overs has really made all the difference to the way England perform at International level, not.
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Post by invicta1977 on Nov 30, 2014 21:56:48 GMT
Personally, I prefer the 50 over format. It's a whole day's cricket for one's effort and, from the games I saw last season, I've a feeling that the middle overs aren't quite as boring as in the pre T20 days.
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