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Post by crickettrader on May 16, 2014 10:49:51 GMT
Not as much as in previous years which should make things easier for Sussex in what has always been a strong South section(as long as we can win more than one game!) Only two divisions this season, each of 9 teams, which means a top 4 finish gets you through. Joining last year's 6 'South' teams of Essex, Middlesex, Hampshire, Surrey, Kent and Sussex are Gloucester, Glamorgan and Somerset from the Midlands/West group. Still a strong line up but you'd fancy us to finish above Kent, Glam and Glos at least.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 16, 2014 14:51:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 19:23:28 GMT
Great to see a full house at the Oval tonight. My impression is that, despite the gloomsters, attendances have been healthy at the T20s this year, including at Sussex, despite the World cup. In some previous years, the latter has been given as an easy excuse. No need this year.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 21:48:50 GMT
Attendances have picked up considerably in the second-half of June and July. But the May and early June attendances were terrible. The ECB has to look at starting the tournament a month later next season. You can't cite decent high summer attendances and on the strength of that claim that stretching it out from May to August has been a success.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 16, 2014 22:14:08 GMT
bm,
Have you got any latest T20 attendance figures to hand? Beating the 550,000 in 2013 will take some doing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 8:15:43 GMT
bm, Have you got any latest T20 attendance figures to hand? Beating the 550,000 in 2013 will take some doing. Am trying to compile but the ECB are being coy about the figures. The aggregate attendance should be up on 2013, simply because there are 36 more games this season than last. But the average attendance per match will be down.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 16:09:07 GMT
Very disappointing crowd for the Surrey quarter final. Saturday afternoon, perhaps not as popular as a weekday evening in south London?
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Post by flashblade on Aug 22, 2014 19:15:47 GMT
Well, George Dobell seems to have unearthed some attendance figures. Here's a quote from his article on Cricinfo today: "The average attendance figure this year has actually declined from 6503 per game in 2013 to 5772 in 2014. That is a drop of around 11% per game from last year."Here's the article, which doesn't suggest any particular reason for the decline, other than the declining popularity of cricket in this country - www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2014/content/current/story/773321.html
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 19:54:56 GMT
No surprise that the average attendance is down. See the thread 'Borderman's campaign against gratuitous floodlit cricket'. All those ridiculous games ending at 10 pm in the shiveringly cold nights of May - what the hell did the ECB expect?
Well, actually they expected a dramatic increase in numbers; the stated aim was a 50 per cent increase in attendances over 3-4 years,I believe. It goes to show how utterly out of touch those who run cricket both at ECB and county level are with the popular mood.
T20 needs to be played in a concentrated four week span and on Saturday/Sunday afternoons. It's a format meant to appeal to families and football supporters; but if Friday nights were really so attractive, wouldn't weekend league football be played under floodlights at the end of the working week rather than on Sat/Sun afternoons?
If the ECB sticks to its claim that there will be no change to this already failed 'new' format before 2018 at the earliest, it will be pure insanity.
Dobell is notorious throughout the game as a negative old sad-sack who talks English cricket down at every opportunity (have a look at his embarrassing articles from only a few weeks ago predicting that the England Test team was destined to spend half a decade in the wilderness before it started winning again). But it's hard to argue with his conclusion that the T20 Blast in its current format is most definitely not the 'golden bullet' and that "the evidence of recent months is that the current method is not working. Unless something changes, the game will continue its gradual but inexorable decline."
A franchised EPL T20 tournament marches ever closer. Othwerwise it's curtains.
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Post by leedsgull on Aug 23, 2014 9:49:11 GMT
I totally agree about the absurdity of 10pm finishes in this climate. However I fail to understand what difference franchise cricket would make. It would alienate some county members and why would it attract casual fans anymore than the present offering? By spreading the games out over a longer period it has been very hard for counties to sign "marquee" overseas players this season.
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Post by twelvegrand on Aug 23, 2014 10:39:00 GMT
Some of this revolves around the London issue - it appears correctly promoted on the right nights (with some luck with the weather) can draw huge crowds in July and early August in central London. In the south east if it was a case of profit maximisation for the counties two franchises in London playing at Lords, Oval and the Olympic stadium with some games televised on terrestrial television condensed into a month would be the way to go. Of course cricket in the south east may have other ambitions and objectives. At the moment we are stuck with a situation of arguably supporting too many counties with television money.
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Post by twelvegrand on Aug 24, 2014 6:22:23 GMT
Last night with my cricket hating partner decided it for me - to create heroes (like Freddie) and be a mainstream sport cricket needs to be back on terrestrial television. The ECB can't put England on there without bankrupting multiple counties so I strongly support a 2-3 week franchise T20 competition at the end of July.
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Post by flashblade on Nov 14, 2014 11:35:57 GMT
Eoin Morgan bemoans the poor quality of our domestic T20 competition: www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/current/story/799449.htmlHe reckons we need a franchised tournament, held within a specific time window. If we don't, he says, county players will never be exposed to top quality T20 cricket. That leads to England having an un-competitive T20 squad, and our players not being good enough for the overseas tournaments. This is not a new argument, but I think it is a strong one. I've never been against franchises - I suspect the ECB would like to try it, but the counties tend to be very parochial. Do they care if English T20 is sub-standard? Not if they believe the ECB will underwrite their continued existence, and the 16 match CC.
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Post by maxh on Nov 14, 2014 11:52:00 GMT
Eoin Morgan is a very outspoken individual nowadays.
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Post by flashblade on Nov 14, 2014 12:11:19 GMT
Eoin Morgan is a very outspoken individual nowadays. Which is a good thing?
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