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Post by hhsussex on Jan 14, 2018 13:10:24 GMT
I'm a bit slow on these quiz questions, but aren't two recent answers those opening bats Buss and Greenidge? Neither seemed the greatest of starters, batting averages not so high, but both had good moments for Sussex. I haven't checked the scorecard, but Mike Buss looks the wide first slip. I thought Greigy was always a second slipper, Graves a gully, and John Spencer nowhere near, if it could be helped, left to hover at third man or mid on. Buss, though, what a wonderful limited overs player, be it as stroke player or nagging slow-medium bowler. I remember his 140 off the '71 Indians, lifting Bedi onto the Cromwell Road sightscreen. in fact he had an amazing Sunday league that summer, including a stunning televised 100, much in partnership with Dexter. I think the other, the portrait, is Geoff Greenidge? Far from the quality of the typical overseas stars signed by the counties in 1968, he never seemed to develop so much though he did play a couple of tests. He was a glorious cover fielder, I loved his stylish forward defensive! He seemed to have the shots, but was never very expansive. Even so, he scored heavily when Sussex beat the '72 Aussies, and had a decent score in a Lord's Gillette final.Yes, I think it is and here's a little thought: in 1972 the records of the two Greenidges in county cricket were almost identical. CG Greenidge (Hants) 22 38 1 1230 142 33.24 2 6 10 GA Greenidge ( Sussex) 22 40 3 1213 142no 32.78 2 7 10 Geoff Greenidge played in the 4th and 5th Tests for West Indies against New Zealand in April that year scoring 50 and 35 not out at Georgetown and 38 and 21 at Port of Spain. Both matches were drawn.
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Post by soothsayer on Jan 14, 2018 13:31:59 GMT
thanks HH for stimulating a quiet Sunday! Greenidge debuted in the same match as Alvin Kallicharran. Oh, well. Greenidge looked lithe, with his buttoned-down sleeves, perhaps he just didn't have the full confidence. And i reckon he smoked too much, judging by the times i saw him coming back from the bar with a packet of fags! Maybe those John Player girls were hard to resist. And I remember one summer early evening, I suppose nearer '68 than '72, asking Peter Graves as he was loading up the baggage van after a match whether the Greenidges were brothers. The reply, perhaps not so politically correct these days, was a succinct "no, one's white, one's black",
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jan 16, 2018 18:35:33 GMT
To answer the other two questions: The Sussex player is Paul Phillipson and John Snow is signing autographs at Pagham CC.
Phillipson was educated at Ardingly College, and went on to play 168 times for Sussex between 1970 and 1986. While, an all-rounder he rarely wowed the crowds and scored 3,052 runs at an average of 18.49 with a top score of 87 and captured 153 wickets at an average of 34.07.
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Post by hhsussex on Jan 17, 2018 8:16:06 GMT
To answer the other two questions: The Sussex player is Paul Phillipson and John Snow is signing autographs at Pagham CC. Phillipson was educated at Ardingly College, and went on to play 168 times for Sussex between 1970 and 1986. While, an all-rounder he rarely wowed the crowds and scored 3,052 runs at an average of 18.49 with a top score of 87 and captured 153 wickets at an average of 34.07. His first-class figures lowered the bar for mediocrity and if that were all he had to offer he wouldn't have played so long, even in the underperforming 70s. What made him special was his ability to make the well-judged 15 or 20 runs or hold down the middle overs in one-day cricket. He became the county game's first real bits and pieces specialist, and probably because of his willingness to do what was needed, excellent fielding and good nature he built a career from slender materials.
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Post by soothsayer on Jan 17, 2018 16:27:23 GMT
kicking myself a bit for thinking Greenidge not Phillipson, but perhaps a certain similarity. I recall Paul Phillipson as one of several promising Sussex-grown fast bowlers, who played for England schools and then never really developed for Sussex in the early '70s. I'd argue John Spencer led the way, and of course became a stalwart, but others followed without making too much impact, e.g. John Denman, Roger Marshall, Stuart Still. Paul Phillipson started as a quick, and a pretty hopeless number 11. In that victory over the '72 Aussies, I think he took six wickets one innings to contribute heavily. But the bowling seemed to fade away, as he settled into the middle order. I haven't looked at his stats, but I agree they probably don't do his valuable contributions justice. I also wonder if one should drill down a bit further: perhaps his bowling was rather good at the beginning, while his batting improved from a rock-bottom base. And of course he was indeed an excellent field.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jan 20, 2018 21:56:22 GMT
Great news that Jofra Archer has not put himself forward for the IPL. Only obvious Sussex candidates Chris Jordan and Tymal Mills are up for auction. Sad to see that Monty Panesar was turned down. Sad because Monty still believes he has a career in cricket.
Here are the 24 English cricketers who are entering the auction process. How many will be picked? I would suggest ten at the very most.
England's IPL hopefuls: Moeen Ali , Jonny Bairstow, Sam Billings, Ravi Bopara, Jos Buttler Tom Curran, Joe Denly, Steven Finn, Harry Gurney, Alex Hales, Tom Helm, Chris Jordan, Dawid Malan, Tymal Mills, Eoin Morgan, Samit Patel, Liam Plunkett, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, David Willey, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood.
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Post by joe on Jan 20, 2018 22:10:42 GMT
Great news that Jofra Archer has not put himself forward for the IPL. Only obvious Sussex candidates Chris Jordan and Tymal Mills are up for auction. Sad to see that Monty Panesar was turned down. Sad because Monty still believes he has a career in cricket. Here are the 24 English cricketers who are entering the auction process. How many will be picked? I would suggest ten at the very most. England's IPL hopefuls: Moeen Ali , Jonny Bairstow, Sam Billings, Ravi Bopara, Jos Buttler Tom Curran, Joe Denly, Steven Finn, Harry Gurney, Alex Hales, Tom Helm, Chris Jordan, Dawid Malan, Tymal Mills, Eoin Morgan, Samit Patel, Liam Plunkett, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, David Willey, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood.I think you’ll find that Jofra IS in the draft as is David Wiese ( along with Jordan and Mills )
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Post by joe on Jan 20, 2018 22:14:00 GMT
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jan 20, 2018 23:29:02 GMT
Joe,
I bow down to your greater knowledge. Of course, Jofra goes under the West Indian tag-line and not English.
81: 9: UAL1: Jofra Archer: West Indies: ALL-ROUNDER: Uncapped: 40
At a reserve price of just 40 Rs Lakh, Jofra will be snapped up.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jan 21, 2018 9:18:41 GMT
Been doing some research on Jofra and while his bowling and fielding have been superb, the batting has not been so impressive. Just 33 runs to date with a highest score of 25*. Yet, Jofra has taken 16 wickets so far with his best tally being 3-4. The Find of BBL7The match to watch is the one next Saturday when the Hobart Hurricanes play the Melbourne Stars. For Sussex supporters there is Archer and Mills for the Hurricanes and Wright with the Stars. This may also be one of Kevin Pietersen's final games in the BBL if playing. As ever the game is on BTSport and begins in the unearthly UK early hours of Saturday morning. The Hurricanes presently lie third in the BBL table although played one game more than their surrounding counterparts. Even so, there is a good chance they may progress in the tournament.
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Post by joe on Jan 21, 2018 10:42:01 GMT
Been doing some research on Jofra and while his bowling and fielding have been superb, the batting has not been so impressive. Just 33 runs to date with a highest score of 25*. Yet, Jofra has taken 16 wickets so far with his best tally being 3-4. The Find of BBL7The match to watch is the one next Saturday when the Hobart Hurricanes play the Melbourne Stars. For Sussex supporters there is Archer and Mills for the Hurricanes and Wright with the Stars. This may also be one of Kevin Pietersen's final games in the BBL if playing. As ever the game is on BTSport and begins in the unearthly UK early hours of Saturday morning. The Hurricanes presently lie third in the BBL table although played one game more than their surrounding counterparts. Even so, there is a good chance they may progress in the tournament. I think you’re being a little harsh on Jofra regarding his batting. He comes in at No7 and invariably in the final 2 overs. He’s had 5 innings with 4 not outs at an average of 33 and a strike rate of 127 which is the 3rd best batting figures for the Hurricanes.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jan 21, 2018 10:57:50 GMT
I take your point but I was comparing his batting to his superb bowling/fielding stats.
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Post by joe on Jan 21, 2018 11:05:54 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised if his IPL purse tops £1m.
Tymal Mills on the other hand will be lucky to be picked up at all.
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Post by flashblade on Jan 21, 2018 13:53:34 GMT
Been doing some research on Jofra and while his bowling and fielding have been superb, the batting has not been so impressive. Just 33 runs to date with a highest score of 25*. Yet, Jofra has taken 16 wickets so far with his best tally being 3-4. I think you are being a bit harsh on Jofra's batting. He really hasn't had much chance. His scores are 3*, 4*, 0*, 25* and 1. In other words, only one failure. Good point, philh. Lies, damn lies and statistics!
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jan 24, 2018 13:58:28 GMT
I follow the cricket blog The Full Toss and noted this feature on Jofra Archer which comes with an excellent video. Not only has the Sussex all-rounder captured the imagination of cricket lovers with his almost super-hero exploits during the present Australian Big Bash, but cricket journos around the globe have a new star to purr about. The Full Toss view on Jofra ArcherMeanwhile, the first incarnation of The Full Toss began in 2009. Founded by Maxie Allen and James Morgan it continued until 2015 when, I suspect, 'journalistic differences' saw Allen leave and for Morgan to then take up the helm on his own. While, there are a number of cricket blogs out there including, perhaps, the best known Deep Extra Cover, this one is worth following. www.thefulltoss.com/england-cricket-blog/archer-writing-story/www.thefulltoss.com
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