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Post by flashblade on Mar 19, 2020 8:17:37 GMT
Ah, the 'go woke, go broke' brigade. Dare to question and you are ridiculed and pilloried on social media. Re: Hudgens, insensitive, yes, true, absolutely. For example, far more people have died from seasonal flu this month than from the coronavirus. Present tally for 2020 up to March 18thSeasonal flu deaths: 103,797. Coronavirus: 8,940. Keep digging!
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Post by gmdf on Mar 19, 2020 8:23:44 GMT
Ah, the 'go woke, go broke' brigade. Dare to question and you are ridiculed and pilloried on social media. Re: Hudgens, insensitive, yes, true, absolutely. For example, far more people have died from seasonal flu this month than from the coronavirus. Present tally for 2020 up to March 18thSeasonal flu deaths: 103,797. Coronavirus: 8,940. If the Government* had done no more than they do annually regarding flu, ignoring the medical experts who warned we were heading for more than 250,000 deaths and a collapse of the NHS due to the number of ill patients of all ages, (as seems to have happened to some extent in northern Italy), afterwards how would you have regarded such a government? I suspect rather harshly, especially if you had lost friends/family. * For the sake of clarity, can I say I didn't vote for the current Government, and am not a supporter. But this situation goes way beyond party politics.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Mar 19, 2020 11:04:32 GMT
gmdf, I am happy with the way Boris and his medical aides are handling the situation. Like a responsible citizen I watch his daily TV report at 5pm'ish. There is no hysteria, just plain common sense. The schools shut on Friday - a sensible decision. The information offered is rational and balanced and given that Britain hasn't reached the peak of the virus, yet, let us see what Boris decides next. The fantastic news is that China are reporting no new locally transmitted coronavirus cases and the few that have occurred come from those who have returned from overseas. This is very optimistic. Perhaps, by late April/early May cases will have significantly dropped around the rest of the world and we may get some cricket late May/early June. We shall see. edition.cnn.com/2020/03/19/asia/coronavirus-covid-19-update-china-intl-hnk/index.htmlMeanwhile, I apologise for infecting this thread with too much corona and I'll stick with just cricket-related news.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Mar 19, 2020 15:21:43 GMT
Here's a great reason why it is imperative Governments around the world create a simple home testing kit for coronavirus. After postponing the Pakistan Super League (PSL) this week, just before the semi-finals, because Alex Hales complained of having a cold when returning to Britain from the competition at the weekend, it now transpires all 128 players involved have been tested for Covid-19 and not ONE, I repeat not ONE, has tested positive. Which almost certainly means that Alex Hales has a cold, pure and simple. Meanwhile, the player himself has still not been tested, perhaps, because he fears he'll be shown to be negative too. www.thecricketer.com/Topics/news/128_psl_coronavirus_tests_no_positive_cases_alex_hales_pakistan.html
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Post by liquidskin on Mar 19, 2020 19:51:10 GMT
The key question is, how many people aged 65 or below and without any serious underlying health problems have died across Europe, Britain & America? It's hard to find out. I'm pretty sure NONE have in the UK out of 2600 infected - but I'm not sure on that cos it's so secretive. I've certainly read of at least 2 under 65s dying in the UK. This article (dated yesterday) mentions 7% of deaths in France were under 65: www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51927790[On edit] And I've just come across this information from the Director of the French Health Authority: "There are 9,134 people who have tested positive for the coronavirus in France, and there have been 264 deaths - an increase of 89 in the last 24 hours. Of those infected, 2,626 are in hospital; 931 of them in intensive care, half of whom are under 60 years old". See: Most importantly though, did the two under 65s in the UK have ULHP? I think they did. Same goes for 465 under 60s in French intensive care - in that do they have ULHP? The weak are more likely to be infected, more likely to be hospitalised, and more likely to be in intensive care too. ULHP are likely more important than age here. This is the detail I'm finding difficult to obtain. Guess it's kinda personal, but it's vital for tactics. The people calling the shots will know a lot - but we don't. Can we trust a government that hasn't even limited purchasing in supermarkets yet? Or that tells people to build as many ventilators as possible in a desperate public plea, three weeks after telling people to make provisions? Where's your provisions Hancock? No wonder the shelfs are empty. I don't think lots of people live with the elderly Flash. Enough do for it to be a nightmare of a task but nightmares are looking like the currency. On a brighter note, I hope people do post on here about this stuff. Any info is good info, numbers and stuff.
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Post by flashblade on Mar 19, 2020 20:39:43 GMT
I've certainly read of at least 2 under 65s dying in the UK. This article (dated yesterday) mentions 7% of deaths in France were under 65: www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51927790[On edit] And I've just come across this information from the Director of the French Health Authority: "There are 9,134 people who have tested positive for the coronavirus in France, and there have been 264 deaths - an increase of 89 in the last 24 hours. Of those infected, 2,626 are in hospital; 931 of them in intensive care, half of whom are under 60 years old". See: Most importantly though, did the two under 65s in the UK have ULHP? I think they did. Same goes for 465 under 60s in French intensive care - in that do they have ULHP? The weak are more likely to be infected, more likely to be hospitalised, and more likely to be in intensive care too. ULHP are likely more important than age here. This is the detail I'm finding difficult to obtain. Guess it's kinda personal, but it's vital for tactics. The people calling the shots will know a lot - but we don't. Can we trust a government that hasn't even limited purchasing in supermarkets yet? Or that tells people to build as many ventilators as possible in a desperate public plea, three weeks after telling people to make provisions? Where's your provisions Hancock? No wonder the shelfs are empty. I don't think lots of people live with the elderly Flash. Enough do for it to be a nightmare of a task but nightmares are looking like the currency. On a brighter note, I hope people do post on here about this stuff. Any info is good info, numbers and stuff. Just to clarify, I think many over 70s, and those under 70 with ULHPs, do not live on their own.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Mar 20, 2020 10:27:26 GMT
While the world increases to lock itself down and the population live in an apocalyptic no-mans land, those in charge of English cricket are ruminating long and hard about the game and imagining its future. Here are some machinations from Surrey Chairman, Richard Thompson, who has been quite vocal of late. Presumably, when you head the richest cricket county in the land, at times of crisis, you're allowed to strut and preen a bit. The Cricketer Magazine reports that on the 50 over cup, Thompson hopes it will morph into an FA Cup-style knockout based on concerns that this much maligned competition will suffer under the shadow of The Hundred. "Everything has to be on a league basis in this country. A knockout competition like the old NatWest Trophy would invigorate the 50-over game, a format we are world champions in." He says "The round of friendlies this summer doesn't go far enough – we don't need friendlies – we need the National – formerly Minor – Counties in a proper knockout competition.” Thompson points out that on July 17th, Surrey's 50-over side is playing Buckinghamshire at High Wycombe on the same day that the Oval Invincibles host Welsh Fire in The Hundred. "That's silly. They should be on different days so players like Jason Roy and Ben Stokes can play for their counties and would be guaranteed one or two matches, rather than none." Richard Thompson standing in front of his UniversityThompson adds to his elucidations. "There's no easy answer to the scheduling of the domestic game in this country. I think probably it does have to be the 50-over game alongside The Hundred... the County Championship should not be devalued, it's still the blue-riband competition; but there's no reason why domestic players cannot play in both, like footballers do in the Premier League and Champions League." While some might suggest the Surrey Chairman's ideas are a little hackneyed, he then fires off a left-field salvo. Thompson would like to see IPL matches come to The Oval. "London is the sports capital of the world. We have NFL, NBA and baseball matches here already. Three rounds of IPL games at venues like The Oval and Lord's would see the South Asian community come out in droves," he enthuses. Now the ECB have appointed a new Chairman, Thompson struts, "Surrey have been working better with the ECB in the last year or so and I'm confident that will continue." An important reminder: Thompson resigned from the ECB in March, 2018, as a representative of the Test-match grounds. He complained there was a lack of transparency in decision making and governance at the ECB after recent news that counties had received compensation in return for not bidding to host future Test matches. In a nutshell, Thompson and Colin Graves are chalk and cheese. He is particularly delighted with the choice of Ian Watmore as ECB Chairman. "I know Ian. He's a man to build bridges and be more collegiate." (Collegiate is an odd word to use. It means: 'belonging or relating to a college or its students') Perhaps, Thompson views himself as the English cricket Grandmaster? www.thecricketer.com/Topics/news/surrey_chairman_richard_thompson_50-over_knockout_cup_ipl_the_oval.html
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Post by flashblade on Mar 20, 2020 10:40:41 GMT
The interview and article pre-date the Covid-19 problem, so his current views would be interesting.
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Post by theleopard on Mar 20, 2020 12:04:34 GMT
By the way FB, I couldn't give a flying f**k about the cricket season or any sport right now, personally.
Those of us involved with it as a hobby can, on the surface, not "give a flying". All of us could cope without cricket for a year.
But what about those who can't? Those who very much need to give a flying. Those who depend on it for a living.
Bat and cricket equipment manufacturers - prime time for sales is right now - no sales, no business... Imagine how you feel right now if your livelihood is manufacturing cricket balls. Suppliers of food and drink to the County Ground and other venues. Printers of scorecards and match programmes. Cricket publications - The Cricketer, Wisden magazine, The Cricket Paper. Freelance sports writers and broadcasters.
Casual staff with no contracts - bar/catering staff, stewards, etc. Hospitality and events companies dependent on business gatherings at cricket matches and elsewhere. And of course the clubs themselves - no matches, no income...
Obviously this all applies in the wider society in any context you might wish to pick. No visitors to Brighton? Hotels, guest houses, pubs, restaurants, sea front businesses, tourist shops - the supply chain to all of these and all those dependent on employment.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Mar 20, 2020 13:48:13 GMT
Fb, The interview and article pre-date the Covid-19 problem, so his current views would be interesting.What is most interesting is how this interview highlights the unbelievable speed in which the coronavirus has captured Britain and the World. Below is a link to another interview with Richard Thompson (the official Surrey CCC one) where again, there is no mention of Covid-19. Quite extraordinary as this was published only 10 days ago. www.kiaoval.com/main-news/chairmans-interview-at-the-kia-oval/Having said that Surrey have been vocal re: the virus and the cricketing side-effects, via their CEO Richard Gould, who told Lawrence Booth of the Daily Mail this week, "Our focus is on trying to make sure we get through the next short-term period. Around this time, we'd be expecting ticket sales for the T20 Blast to be entering their prime selling stage. But we've sold only 25 per cent of what we'd expect. There will be cash-flow issues for everyone," he added. "The question is whether the counties will ever catch up. There is a cash black hole looming." I am sure the club's Chairman agrees with his CEO on this matter, just as the other 17 counties do too.
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Post by Bazpan on Mar 20, 2020 15:42:50 GMT
He is particularly delighted with the choice of Ian Watmore as ECB Chairman. "I know Ian. He's a man to build bridges and be more collegiate." (Collegiate is an odd word to use. It means: 'belonging or relating to a college or its students') You can also use 'collegiate' to mean (something like) a way of doing things that is more collaborative, less authoritarian. That must have been the sense that Thompson intended.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Mar 21, 2020 13:36:45 GMT
Matt Groening is a genius and always will be.
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Post by flashblade on Mar 21, 2020 13:57:49 GMT
Matt Groening is a genius and always will be. Ha Ha! That's almost in bad taste.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Mar 21, 2020 14:39:49 GMT
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Mar 21, 2020 15:12:04 GMT
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