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Post by squarepoint on Dec 7, 2023 18:53:41 GMT
I don’t agree that the club needs ‘close to a miracle to turn things around’ unless there are severe financial problems that haven’t been made public yet. Yes, we have to operate on a fairly tight playing budget but then so do many other counties. Of course, if by ‘turning things around’ this means competing to win the Championship, I’d agree that would feel miraculous from our current position.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Dec 7, 2023 19:13:47 GMT
In my book, “turning things around” means consistent Division 1 cricket and being competitive enough
to win T20 and 50 Over Trophies. Given the present situation, this feels like a miracle.
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Post by lovelyboy on Dec 7, 2023 20:29:03 GMT
In my book, “turning things around” means consistent Division 1 cricket and being competitive enough to win T20 and 50 Over Trophies. Given the present situation, this feels like a miracle. Agree. The fact we are in a worse position than this time last year and with the doom and gloom surrounding the new hundred arrangements I just can’t see a way out for us |
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Post by squarepoint on Dec 7, 2023 20:44:52 GMT
In my book, “turning things around” means consistent Division 1 cricket and being competitive enough to win T20 and 50 Over Trophies. Given the present situation, this feels like a miracle. Agree. The fact we are in a worse position than this time last year and with the doom and gloom surrounding the new hundred arrangements I just can’t see a way out for us You take one step at a time. We need to strengthen our squad a little over the winter, appoint Simpson as captain, improve the morale, raise the standards of coaching and make some better decisions. We are not that far off gaining promotion although some more patience may be required. Once you get some positive momentum, more players, sponsors and spectators will want to come and fewer to leave. I don’t mean to suggest this is particularly easy but the situation isn’t desperate. I don’t see why an ambitious CEO would be scared by the challenge. |
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 7, 2023 23:30:39 GMT
I beg to disagree. On very good authority I was told it was £90k. The most Sussex have paid a CEO. At the RFU Andrew was earning a six figure sum, but was happy to drop his salary so he could change his career path. The closing date for the CEO application is December 18th. You can beg away. I would say without any guarantees the person that told me would know above anyone else, and the conversation took place in the old cricketers garden. A misunderstood guy in my opinion whod probably admit now if his communication was stronger he may have bigger public support |
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 7, 2023 23:40:34 GMT
Agree. The fact we are in a worse position than this time last year and with the doom and gloom surrounding the new hundred arrangements I just can’t see a way out for us You take one step at a time. We need to strengthen our squad a little over the winter, appoint Simpson as captain, improve the morale, raise the standards of coaching and make some better decisions. We are not that far off gaining promotion although some more patience may be required. Once you get some positive momentum, more players, sponsors and spectators will want to come and fewer to leave. I don’t mean to suggest this is particularly easy but the situation isn’t desperate. I don’t see why an ambitious CEO would be scared by the challenge. Exactly! |
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Post by j on Dec 8, 2023 9:16:40 GMT
I beg to disagree. On very good authority I was told it was £90k. The most Sussex have paid a CEO. At the RFU Andrew was earning a six figure sum, but was happy to drop his salary so he could change his career path. The closing date for the CEO application is December 18th. You can beg away. I would say without any guarantees the person that told me would know above anyone else, and the conversation took place in the old cricketers garden. A misunderstood guy in my opinion whod probably admit now if his communication was stronger he may have bigger public support He wouldn't admit that, not with his ego. |
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 8, 2023 9:19:27 GMT
You can beg away. I would say without any guarantees the person that told me would know above anyone else, and the conversation took place in the old cricketers garden. A misunderstood guy in my opinion whod probably admit now if his communication was stronger he may have bigger public support He wouldn't admit that, not with his ego. Agreed, i know a couple of people were hoping he'd make a statement on his departure setting a few records straight, looks like hes bottled that too. |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Dec 8, 2023 9:57:13 GMT
lab1, I would say without any guarantees the person that told me would know above anyone else, and the conversation took place in the old cricketers garden.
I reckon my person was higher up the Club pecking order than yours, and the conversation took place in the Museum.  Whatever sum Andrew was paid, he has been a huge disappointment. Let us hope the new CEO is about reconstruction and not self-destruction. |
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 8, 2023 10:06:45 GMT
Ill say a disappointment but not huge unless he fails to let the offices. Ill top your wage debate, and say my conversation happened on a boat on the thames while celebrating a landmark birthday  |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Dec 10, 2023 14:31:13 GMT
One week from now and applications for the new Sussex Cricket CEO will close and the CVs of those who have applied will be looked through, hopefully, with a fine toothcomb by McBride Sport. Given how pivotal the choice of our next CEO will be for the reconstruction of the Club after the previous self-destruction by Rob Andrew, the question on everyone’s lips: ”Who the hell is McBride Sport. Why have they be given this extremely important responsibility?” The company states on its website, “McBride Sport is a niche executive search practice, working across the international sports & entertainment industry. We focus on supporting our clients in all aspects of their executive, non-executive and director level searches.” It continues, “Led by Neil Edwards, we have built a portfolio of successful campaigns… With a growing reputation in the industry, we continue work with some of the most innovative organisations in the sports & entertainment industry.” www.mcbride-sport.com/about Neil EdwardsThis has become a growing trend within county cricket. Pass over the responsibility to a specialist professional body to find your top employee. You can always blame the company if, up the road, it all goes Pete Tong. There is much common sense to the process and Sussex has sensibly taken this route for quite some time. Although worryingly, Andrew was chosen via a similar route. I remember back in 2016, the then Club Chair, Jim May, told me that the search company used to find a replacement for Zac Toumazi after he had decided to step down, whittled the potential candidates down to three, where Andrew was its No.1 choice by a country mile, strongly recommending him to the County Board. The Board duly listened. Everyone I spoke to at the time believed Andrew was a fantastic choice and this would be the turning point for Sussex Cricket. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. McBride’s Linkedin page, particularly its posts section, sheds an interesting light. Re: The CEO job, Edwards writes, “McBride Sport are delighted to be retained by Sussex Cricket as they look to appoint a new Chief Executive Officer. Based in Hove, the CEO will work with a motivated & talented executive team, led by a genuinely committed & dynamic Board of Directors to drive the organisation forward.” Three queries: Retained? Does this mean the company was responsible for choosing Andrew seven years ago or more recently Paul Farbrace? “A motivated & talented executive team” and “dynamic Board of Directors”… Really? We also learn that Somerset CCC is seeking a CEO at a similar time as Sussex alongside Cricket Wales. How will the salaries compare? Somerset is the obvious primary competitor. The highly successful Gordon Hollins is stepping down after four years, but wait... not until next March which allows the Club more than 6 months to find a replacement. Yet, it seems, Sussex will only be advertising for less than a month. Is this right? Why, when the Club knew, surely, back in October that Andrew was leaving for the ECB? Certainly, Somerset can afford a better wage than Sussex and has more to offer. So, there is strong competition at present, especially when McBride Sport represents just one of a number of niche sports search companies. Will Sussex end up with sloppy seconds, thirds or even fourths? In fact, during the last five months Cricket Scotland has also been seeking a new CEO. Who would you choose if a top candidate for all four CEO jobs? Is salary key or are there other considerations involved? uk.linkedin.com/company/mcbride-sport Somerset CCC Seeking a New CEO to Replace Gordon HollinsMeanwhile, Warwickshire is advertising for a non-executive Director. It is surprising the varied number of top cricketing jobs presently on offer. It is difficult to be positive about who the new CEO will be. There are so many factors involved where luck is, perhaps, a main one. The lessons from Andrew’s failure is choose someone with a past cricketing background. Ideally, one who has had extensive experience of the county game; understands the business, the people and the players; but above all, offers an innovative approach which can quickly grow the annual off-field revenues. He or she needs to be bold and even daring, take risks and endeavour to shake up the present mindset of the Club, otherwise, we could simply remain stuck in the present abyss going nowhere. It is this mindset that needs to be radically changed, but as we know with the establishment, you stick with those who won’t upset the status quo and so, in this case, the Club may remain in no man's land for the foreseeable future. Apologies for this negative view, but a reality check is required. Our hopes lie with Paul Farbrace, but without additional money, his options for signing new players is limited as the top ones available will seek Division 1 counties who pay better salaries. It is time to pray for a miracle. |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Dec 23, 2023 11:08:56 GMT
It seems that the few on this Forum, in particular one, who hold high hopes of Paul Farbrace turning the Club around, are either wearing rose-tinted glasses, as one poster suggests, or know something about Farbrace that the rest of us do not. So, why not put him under the microscope. Wikipedia is usually the best place to start. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Farbrace “Farbie’s” playing career at Kent and Middlesex is pretty much nondescript. He played in just 40 first-class cricket matches and 28 List A cricket matches. He had a first-class batting average of 18.23 and List A 11.42. As a keeper and fielder he took 89 catches and achieved 12 stumpings. Next he moved in to coaching. Wiki says, “He was named first-team coach of Kent for the 2010 season on 31 July 2009. Kent finished the season second bottom of the County Championship and were relegated to the second tier after earning promotion the previous season. Kent won three of their sixteen matches and finished with 151 points. In the Clydesdale Bank 40, Kent finished runners up in their group to Warwickshire, narrowly missing out on reaching the quarter finals. Kent failed to progress beyond the group stage of the domestic T20 competition, finishing seventh in their group. Kent endured a difficult second season under Farbrace.” “In the first season back in Division two, they could only manage five wins, finishing the competition second bottom. They finished fourth in the Group stage in the Clydesdale Bank 40 competition. In the Twenty20 competition they qualified from the group, finishing third and earning a place in the quarter finals. However, they lost the quarter-final against Leicestershire in a high scoring game. At the end of the season Farbrace left his role and was replaced by Jimmy Adams. “Upon leaving Canterbury, Farbrace was appointed to the role of Second XI Coach for Yorkshire County Cricket Club, prior to the start of the 2012 domestic cricket season.” Then 'Farbie’s' career peaked when he was appointed coach of Sri Lanka which led to the country winning the 2014 twenty20 World Cup. Brilliant! Well done Farbs. He resigned that same year to become the assistant coach of England under the ill-fated Peter Moores. This led to him being a brief interim Head Coach after Moores was sacked. When Trevor Bayliss was appointed, Farbrace continued being an assistant. From there, "Farbie" experienced the usual England highs and lows until in 2019 he became Sporting Director at Warwickshire. He left this club following the end of the 2022 season and was then appointed Sussex Head Coach. So, what does his CV say of him? His Head Coach career peaked in 2014. He then went on to become a No.2 for England. If the management thought Farbrace had the ability to be a No.1 they would have appointed him England Coach. He had every opportunity. Therefore, Farbrace is a solid, perhaps, even reliable No.2. So, 9 years after his career peaked as Head Coach with Sri Lanka, it appears Farbrace is attempting to become a No.1 again at the age of 56. While his ambition may be undiminished, you must ask the question… Has Farbie got it in him? Certainly, the disaster over Ali Orr has severely blotted his copy book and beggars the question: Can a No.2, in the autumnal years of his cricket career, lead Sussex to Division 1 and trophies, particularly when the money is not there to attract quality players? |
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 23, 2023 12:01:55 GMT
It seems that the few on this Forum, in particular one, who hold high hopes of Paul Farbrace turning the Club around, are either wearing rose-tinted glasses, as one poster suggests, or know something about Farbrace that the rest of us do not. So, why not put him under the microscope. Wikipedia is usually the best place to start. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Farbrace“Farbie’s” playing career at Kent and Middlesex is pretty much nondescript. He played in just 40 first-class cricket matches and 28 List A cricket matches. He had a first-class batting average of 18.23 and List A 11.42. As a keeper and fielder he took 89 catches and achieved 12 stumpings. Next he moved in to coaching. Wiki says, “He was named first-team coach of Kent for the 2010 season on 31 July 2009. Kent finished the season second bottom of the County Championship and were relegated to the second tier after earning promotion the previous season. Kent won three of their sixteen matches and finished with 151 points. In the Clydesdale Bank 40, Kent finished runners up in their group to Warwickshire, narrowly missing out on reaching the quarter finals. Kent failed to progress beyond the group stage of the domestic T20 competition, finishing seventh in their group. Kent endured a difficult second season under Farbrace.” “In the first season back in Division two, they could only manage five wins, finishing the competition second bottom. They finished fourth in the Group stage in the Clydesdale Bank 40 competition. In the Twenty20 competition they qualified from the group, finishing third and earning a place in the quarter finals. However, they lost the quarter-final against Leicestershire in a high scoring game. At the end of the season Farbrace left his role and was replaced by Jimmy Adams. “Upon leaving Canterbury, Farbrace was appointed to the role of Second XI Coach for Yorkshire County Cricket Club, prior to the start of the 2012 domestic cricket season.” Then 'Farbie’s' career peaked when he was appointed coach of Sri Lanka which led to the country winning the 2014 twenty20 World Cup. Brilliant! Well done Farbs. He resigned that same year to become the assistant coach of England under the ill-fated Peter Moores. This led to him being a brief interim Head Coach after Moores was sacked. When Trevor Bayliss was appointed, Farbrace continued being an assistant. From there, "Farbie" experienced the usual England highs and lows until in 2019 he became Sporting Director at Warwickshire. He left this club following the end of the 2022 season and was then appointed Sussex Head Coach. So, what does his CV say of him? His Head Coach career peaked in 2014. He then went on to become a No.2 for England. If the management thought Farbrace had the ability to be a No.1 they would have appointed him England Coach. He had every opportunity. Therefore, Farbrace is a solid, perhaps, even reliable No.2. So, 9 years after his career peaked as Head Coach with Sri Lanka, it appears Farbrace is attempting to become a No.1 again at the age of 56. While his ambition may be undiminished, you must ask the question… Has Farbie got it in him? Certainly, the disaster over Ali Orr has severely blotted his copy book and beggars the question: Can a No.2, in the autumnal years of his cricket career, lead Sussex to Division 1 and trophies, particularly when the money is not there to attract quality players? You can always find what ever suits your argument on the internet however i was very fortunate to meet Paul a few months back and asked him about the Kent Job, his answer was quite clear, hed spent too many years being a DOC and he just wants to coach. Wiki doesnt also explain hes a huge Only Fools and Horses fan. Ill repeat what i said the other day to the same or similar post you done on Farbs from wiki, i dont hold all my hopes on Farbrace turning the club around, im backing him to continue turning the tide as he did last year and im backing an extremely talented squad. |
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Post by lovelyboy on Dec 23, 2023 12:40:28 GMT
It seems that the few on this Forum, in particular one, who hold high hopes of Paul Farbrace turning the Club around, are either wearing rose-tinted glasses, as one poster suggests, or know something about Farbrace that the rest of us do not. So, why not put him under the microscope. Wikipedia is usually the best place to start. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Farbrace“Farbie’s” playing career at Kent and Middlesex is pretty much nondescript. He played in just 40 first-class cricket matches and 28 List A cricket matches. He had a first-class batting average of 18.23 and List A 11.42. As a keeper and fielder he took 89 catches and achieved 12 stumpings. Next he moved in to coaching. Wiki says, “He was named first-team coach of Kent for the 2010 season on 31 July 2009. Kent finished the season second bottom of the County Championship and were relegated to the second tier after earning promotion the previous season. Kent won three of their sixteen matches and finished with 151 points. In the Clydesdale Bank 40, Kent finished runners up in their group to Warwickshire, narrowly missing out on reaching the quarter finals. Kent failed to progress beyond the group stage of the domestic T20 competition, finishing seventh in their group. Kent endured a difficult second season under Farbrace.” “In the first season back in Division two, they could only manage five wins, finishing the competition second bottom. They finished fourth in the Group stage in the Clydesdale Bank 40 competition. In the Twenty20 competition they qualified from the group, finishing third and earning a place in the quarter finals. However, they lost the quarter-final against Leicestershire in a high scoring game. At the end of the season Farbrace left his role and was replaced by Jimmy Adams. “Upon leaving Canterbury, Farbrace was appointed to the role of Second XI Coach for Yorkshire County Cricket Club, prior to the start of the 2012 domestic cricket season.” Then 'Farbie’s' career peaked when he was appointed coach of Sri Lanka which led to the country winning the 2014 twenty20 World Cup. Brilliant! Well done Farbs. He resigned that same year to become the assistant coach of England under the ill-fated Peter Moores. This led to him being a brief interim Head Coach after Moores was sacked. When Trevor Bayliss was appointed, Farbrace continued being an assistant. From there, "Farbie" experienced the usual England highs and lows until in 2019 he became Sporting Director at Warwickshire. He left this club following the end of the 2022 season and was then appointed Sussex Head Coach. So, what does his CV say of him? His Head Coach career peaked in 2014. He then went on to become a No.2 for England. If the management thought Farbrace had the ability to be a No.1 they would have appointed him England Coach. He had every opportunity. Therefore, Farbrace is a solid, perhaps, even reliable No.2. So, 9 years after his career peaked as Head Coach with Sri Lanka, it appears Farbrace is attempting to become a No.1 again at the age of 56. While his ambition may be undiminished, you must ask the question… Has Farbie got it in him? Certainly, the disaster over Ali Orr has severely blotted his copy book and beggars the question: Can a No.2, in the autumnal years of his cricket career, lead Sussex to Division 1 and trophies, particularly when the money is not there to attract quality players? You can always find what ever suits your argument on the internet however i was very fortunate to meet Paul a few months back and asked him about the Kent Job, his answer was quite clear, hed spent too many years being a DOC and he just wants to coach. Wiki doesnt also explain hes a huge Only Fools and Horses fan. Ill repeat what i said the other day to the same or similar post you done on Farbs from wiki, i dont hold all my hopes on Farbrace turning the club around, im backing him to continue turning the tide as he did last year and im backing an extremely talented squad. For me Farbs is the best hope we have of turning this club around. We are lucky to have him. My main worry is we won’t back him in recruitment and he will leave. It already looks like he isn’t getting the bowler he wanted never mind the four or five players he was after |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jan 20, 2024 12:06:15 GMT
 OMG, I just saw Fynn Hudson-Prentice running along the streets of Rustington in full runners' regalia. Either that or it was his twin brother. Don't tell me he had run all the way from Hove!?  |
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