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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 3, 2016 11:17:21 GMT
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 4, 2016 11:24:48 GMT
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 4, 2016 13:21:30 GMT
One of my favourite former Sussex players.  @edgiddins Great man, great article. #bigshoes |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 6, 2016 13:56:13 GMT
A very interesting article from the BBC Website published today about research carried out by Portsmouth University which shows that over 50% of cricket umpires say they have suffered abuse from players and that this behaviour is becoming more prevalent. While, abuse of any kind must not be encouraged, and where fines are placed on cricketers who regularly "chunter", the opposing argument is that supporters of the sport want to see passion within the players and abuse, in particular verbal, is a side-product of such passion. One sensible suggestion is that an umpire must find a balance where a one-off expletive aimed at them or an opposition member is a less offence than actually spitting or thumping them! www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37865718 |
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Post by flashblade on Nov 6, 2016 15:27:08 GMT
A very interesting article from the BBC Website published today about research carried out by Portsmouth University which shows that over 50% of cricket umpires say they have suffered abuse from players and that this behaviour is becoming more prevalent. While, abuse of any kind must not be encouraged, and where fines are placed on cricketers who regularly "chunter", the opposing argument is that supporters of the sport want to see passion within the players and abuse, in particular verbal, is a side-product of
such passion.One sensible suggestion is that an umpire must find a balance where a one-off expletive aimed at them or an opposition member is a less offence than actually spitting or thumping them! www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37865718Abuse should be actively discouraged - not merely "not encouraged" IMO. Frankly, I was disgusted to hear about umpires being abused. There should be zero tolerance of this, and any player guilty should be red-carded and banned. Of course we want passion, but you seem to be implying that abuse is acceptable if it is a "side-product of such passion". That can't be right, surely? Testosterone, potentially a very destructive hormone, needs to be channeled into the playing of the game, and not allowed to leak out into inter-personal abuse on the field of play. I've always disliked sledging, which I regard as being on the same level as playground taunts. I was pleased to see the remarks of the coroner at the conclusion of the Phillip Hughes inquest. He didn't make a formal recommendation regarding sledging but pondered "why such a beautiful game would need such an ugly underside". |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 7, 2016 12:16:26 GMT
Of course we want passion, but you seem to be implying that abuse is acceptable if it is a "side-product of such passion".
That can't be right, surely?
What I am suggesting is that while cricket supporters want passion from their players, it is hypocritical then to criticise
them for swearing in the heat of the moment.
Of course, I don't condone verbal abuse or any other form of abuse but if you want passion you will also get "the verbals"
alongside it. The question that umpires have to make is when is that line crossed? If a player keeps swearing at the opposition
then that crosses the line. But if they let out a "chunter" on one or two occasions, a warning is quite sufficient.
I would suggest a fair number of cricketers find it difficult to constructively channel all of their testosterone into just the game,
particularly if there is sledging and psychic abuse occurring on the field. It is only human to focus some of it on the opposition
when the tension and stress of a match is at its height.
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Post by glosexile on Nov 8, 2016 12:09:15 GMT
A very interesting article from the BBC Website published today about research carried out by Portsmouth University which shows that over 50% of cricket umpires say they have suffered abuse from players and that this behaviour is becoming more prevalent. While, abuse of any kind must not be encouraged, and where fines are placed on cricketers who regularly "chunter", the opposing argument is that supporters of the sport want to see passion within the players and abuse, in particular verbal, is a side-product of
such passion.One sensible suggestion is that an umpire must find a balance where a one-off expletive aimed at them or an opposition member is a less offence than actually spitting or thumping them! www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37865718Abuse should be actively discouraged - not merely "not encouraged" IMO. Frankly, I was disgusted to hear about umpires being abused. There should be zero tolerance of this, and any player guilty should be red-carded and banned. Of course we want passion, but you seem to be implying that abuse is acceptable if it is a "side-product of such passion". That can't be right, surely? Testosterone, potentially a very destructive hormone, needs to be channeled into the playing of the game, and not allowed to leak out into inter-personal abuse on the field of play. I've always disliked sledging, which I regard as being on the same level as playground taunts. I was pleased to see the remarks of the coroner at the conclusion of the Phillip Hughes inquest. He didn't make a formal recommendation regarding sledging but pondered "why such a beautiful game would need such an ugly underside". Flashblade.....well said Sir (you deserve more than a mere 'Like' from me). Totally agree that zero tolerance is needed to arrest the current downward spiral in standards. No longer the occasional witty banter, but more like snarling intimidation akin to the playground bully mentality. How sad that disgusting swearing towards an individual has somehow become acceptable. Really don't buy into the passion argument. Wasn't this the line pedalled by Stokes in trying to support his view that umpires should be more tolerant on sledging. The same Stokes that likes to dish it out but seemingly can't take it when returned (Marlon Samuels anyone !!!). Future England captain.....PLEASE NO. As well as being a county cricket fan, I am also a massive fan of club cricket. Over the past 20 years, the increasingly bad behaviour towards umpires (independently appointed panel umpires), opponents and changing room walls has become quite disgraceful. Pretty easy to see that club cricketers are trying to copy the antics of international stars. Some years ago the thought of being a qualified umpire to officiate in our Southern Premier Cricket League would have at one time been an attractive proposition for me. Sadly, there is absolutely no chance that I could now be attracted to such a position. |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 15, 2016 11:33:21 GMT
It is almost two months since the county cricket season ended for Sussex, so here is an important catch-up with Coach Mark Davis on what is happening behind the scenes with the players. Adam Matthews asks the questions. There is little new to learn. The players are back in training that includes boxing and football. Davis further explains his reasons why Van Styl has been signed for 3 years; Wells, Salt and Finch are in Sydney, Australia improving their batting skills; and the question-mark over the future of Joyce remains. www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnc0hm2kpdI |
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Post by flashblade on Nov 15, 2016 11:59:08 GMT
It is almost two months since the county cricket season ended for Sussex, so here is an important catch-up with Coach Mark Davis on what is happening behind the scenes with the players. Adam Matthews asks the questions. There is little new to learn. The players are back in training that includes boxing and football. Davis further explains his reasons why Van Styl has been signed for 3 years; Wells, Salt and Finch are in Sydney, Australia improving their batting skills; and the question-mark over the future
of Joyce remains.www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnc0hm2kpdI sounds as if Joyce is in charge?! Hope he gives Davis a decision before April! or should Davis make the decision for him? |
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Post by jonboy on Nov 15, 2016 16:26:57 GMT
It is almost two months since the county cricket season ended for Sussex, so here is an important catch-up with Coach Mark Davis on what is happening behind the scenes with the players. Adam Matthews asks the questions. There is little new to learn. The players are back in training that includes boxing and football. Davis further explains his reasons why Van Styl has been signed for 3 years; Wells, Salt and Finch are in Sydney, Australia improving their batting skills; and the question-mark over the future
of Joyce remains.www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnc0hm2kpdI sounds as if Joyce is in charge?! Hope he gives Davis a decision before April! or should Davis make the decision for him? As we aren't planning to have an overseas in the championship this season, Joyce re-signing has become absolutely crucial to our hopes of success. He is the one batsman we have of genuine class, and could only realistically have been replaced by a quality overseas batsman. I find it incomprehensible that Sussex cannot afford an overseas due to budget constraints, or a back up keeper, while cash strapped Northamptonshire, have no such problems |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 16, 2016 16:14:10 GMT
"Australia is Dead - Long Live Australia"
______________________________________________________ Even in these crazy times of political correctness one cannot stop a chortle of mirth as the nightmares of Australian cricket play out in front of the world's sporting stage. Their present car crash against South Africa reminds one of England during the 1990s. A combination of humiliation and embarrassment coupled with a dose of supporter outrage. For the Aussies to lose 5 Tests in a row (3 against Sri Lanka and now 2 against the Proteus) - a feat not seen since the mid 1980s - you need to pinch yourself in disbelief. This is a side, for goodness sake, that in recent history won 16 Tests in a row... Twice! Is it merely bad luck concerning playing conditions, poor captaincy from Steve Smith, Lehmann's jadedness or, as noted today with the stepping down of Rod Marsh, terrible team selection? And yet, part of the blame is being heaped on the Big Bash League by cricket traditionalists who see a chink in the Australian armour. What a surprise! Go on, let's rip in to the 'hit and giggle', 'heave-ho fun-fest', when the barbie's down. Aussie players are forgetting how to play proper cricket, they say, and have become a "nation of range-hitting, slog-sweeping, death-bowling robots..." where the mental stamina to survive Test matches is abundantly lacking. But, they do have a point. Batting collapses, once the bastion of England, have infected the Baggy Greens offering such recent wonderments of 10 for 85, eight for 32 and 10 for 86 against the Proteas, and nine for 112, 10 for 83, nine for 52 and eight for 98 in Sri Lanka. Yet, is this present malaise simply a cycle that operates within any international sport? There are always ups and downs from sporting sides over a long period of time. Whatever your viewpoint, the South African dominance will do wonders to the Proteus's confidence and make next summer's England spectacle even more of a humdinger. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-3941368/Australia-lost-five-Tests-row-captain-embarrassed-s-gone-wrong.html
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Post by irishexile on Nov 16, 2016 16:48:42 GMT
but very few test players play in the Big Bash, do they?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 22:17:02 GMT
S&F. You say above, that the aussies have not lost five tests in a row since the mid 80s. Well actually they lost six in a row as recently as 2013, and seven out of eight, one draw.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 17, 2016 9:14:40 GMT
fred,
Australia are in the middle of a slump in form rarely witnessed by the country's cricketing fanbase over the past 30 years. Only once
since the mid-1980s has an Aussie side lost five consecutive Test matches - as is now the case with the current crop following defeat
by South Africa in Hobart.
I rechecked my facts and you are correct as the journalist Sam Morshead, the inspiration for the blog, writes above. Perhaps, he's wrong
too, as you suggest twice and not once?
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Post by hhsussex on Nov 17, 2016 9:17:57 GMT
fred, Australia are in the middle of a slump in form rarely witnessed by the country's cricketing fanbase over the past 30 years. Only once
since the mid-1980s has an Aussie side lost five consecutive Test matches - as is now the case with the current crop following defeat
by South Africa in Hobart.I rechecked my facts and you are correct as the journalist Sam Morshead, the inspiration for the blog, writes above. Perhaps, he's wrong too, as you suggest twice and not once? I think the point is that the "once" he refers to is the 2013 sequence. However, you could turn his point around completely and say ...such is the crisis in Austrlian critic that twice within 3 years they have lost 5 games in a row...etc. The Australians would certainly do so if it was the Poms who had that record  |
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