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Post by lordric on Jan 30, 2017 17:41:15 GMT
This will be my 60th Season supporting Sussex.
From the days of Marlar, Lord Ted & Young Jim to Grizzly, Mushtaq & Matt Prior.
Of course, I like Sussex to win. But that is never enough.
For me, Danny Blanchflower, the captain of the Spurs Double Winning team ( & I'm an Arsenal supporter!!), got it right:
The great fallacy is that the game is first and last about winning. It is nothing of the kind. The game is about glory, it is about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom.
Here's to plenty more Seasons watching from the Cromwell Road end !!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 19:11:56 GMT
Nice interview and Mr May has done some splendid things for Sussex CCC over the years. More fulsome tributes can be paid when he actually stands down in March.
Two points specifically on the content.
i) There is clearly still a lack of transparency over the match-fixing, which is disappointing.
ii) It was inevitable that Sussex,as one of the more pragmatic counties, would readily accept the £1.3 million per annum and support the new eight team tournament. Mr May pretty much confirms this. It's a shame we had to have all that posturing over Sussex's so-called 'opposition'. But I guess Mr May must have felt it was necessary in order to placate the neanderthal wing of the membership.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 19:39:36 GMT
during my 10 years at the club, there has never been a leak to the media.
I know of at least one. A disgraceful off-the-record slur made against Monty Panesar by a club official to cricinfo in August 2013.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jan 31, 2017 11:57:52 GMT
Bm,
There are various stories doing the rounds about that Monty Panesar incident.
The one regaled to me was that a certain journalist (we dare not breathe his name!) was at a county ground where Sussex CCC were playing. Sussex were batting and as he walked past Monty in the venue he overheard him say to a young boy who wanted his autograph, something like, "You'd better ask your Dad first as I want to be paid."
Given the nature of Monty, I find this rumour hard to believe or accept. Had the journalist heard correctly or misinterpreted what Monty allegedly said?
If true, Panesar's personal problems at the time, may have had a bearing, but I still find the rumour hard to believe. Everyone I've spoken to who has met or known Monty, tell me he would never have asked for such a request.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 12:36:28 GMT
That isn't what happened. I had words - heated words - with the journalist and he did not overhear it. He was told it. And I believe I know by whom.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jan 31, 2017 13:39:22 GMT
Bm,
I am sure there are several stories about Monty Panesar doing the rounds.
Perhaps, mine is one and yours is another. I was told about the autograph incident by Kim Jones, who sadly is now deceased. He was with the journalist at the ground, at the time. They were close friends. In fact, Kim gave him his first big break via Spin Magazine.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 14:22:31 GMT
All I'm telling you, s&f, is that even the journalist himself did NOT claim to have witnessed or overheard the incident. I confronted him about it and he freely admitted he had only been "told" about it but that he believed his source.
One of the old Inner Circle lot claimed that it was Jimmy Anyon who had told him , but I know that was not the primary source.
Anyway, who gives a flying fig? The whole of cricket knows the writer in question is notorious for taking fliers. He admitted to me that he does not subscribe to the traditional journalistic practice of requiring two sources before printing something damaging : he told me he's quite happy to go into print on the basis of a single uncorroborated source and that he felt under no obligation to put the allegation to the individual concerned before publication.
All of that flies in the face of the standards that I spent my entire career as an editor demanding from my reporters .
And it's only a small jump from there to post-truth and 'alternative facts' - or making it up, as we used to call it ('Farbrace favourite for vacant Surrey job' springs to mind...). Which is why I took a stand and said at the time that it was a slippery slope.
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Post by hhsussex on Jan 31, 2017 14:47:53 GMT
fluffy, an important part of this story is that it developed from a comment made on live blog during a game. I know it because I was following it at the time and noted what was written because it seemed more than odd. The story that was then spun from it has now been deleted from the website, interestingly enough.
The sequence of events was:
1. The journalist hearing the remark from the club official rather than experiencing it at first hand 2. Publishing it first on an on-line blog as "I've just heard an extraordinary story ..." 3. At the end of the day incorporating it into a lengthy write up of the match as established fact and giving the impression that there had been a series of these occurrences rather than one second-hand story 4. The journalist not thinking it worthwhile to check his facts with any third-party or to offer Panesar the option of a rebuttal
All of those things are mean and shabby in themselves, and with what we now know about Panesar's fragile mental state they cannot have helped him feel at ease with his colleagues, his employers and the cricketing establishment.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jan 31, 2017 16:48:44 GMT
Hhs,
I must make it clear I am in no way supporting the journalist "we dare not breathe his name". I myself have had several personal "run-ins" with him. He and one editor of Spin Magazine had weekly fall-outs where both would shout out, "I can't work with this person!" and purportedly storm out of the office. There was even one rumour that when the said editor decided to spend money the magazine didn't have on some promotional, give-away mini cricket-balls, a number were thrown at him by a said and angry person after they arrived at the office in the post.
Whether it was him or Jimmy Anyon that allegedly overheard Monty is not my issue. It's whether Monty actually said those words. Even if he did, they should never have been reported, as you state, especially given Panesar's potential state of mind.
I know how tempting it is to thrust some tabloid sleaze into a review or article, especially when you are trying to make a name. But without fact-checking, it can merely become fake news. But sadly, few care these days. The once accepted skills of cross- checking and double-checking facts went out of the window a while back, as we have seen recently re: the mainstream media during the US Election. Such "presstituting" is now common-place where the media are little more than PR junkies for whichever vested interest pays them.
But back to that journo. Like Lizzy Ammon, who was another one of Kim Jones prodigies, seeking that story to make a name was always the goal and why she, herself, slipped and fell into the pale over Durham and Kent after getting work at The Times. The opportunities now of gaining a cricketing scoop are so rare that any half chance that comes along is seized upon. Is that acceptable? Of course not.The days of bumping into a drunken Flintoff in a pedalo, at two o'clock in the morning, are the legends of yonder.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 3, 2017 12:14:06 GMT
The present establishment hypocrisy which presently rages around world politics, is expressing itself too in cricket of whom - no surprise - Kevin Pietersen, once more, gains the short straw. Meanwhile, Pietersen has been fined 5,000 Australian dollars (£3,000) for his on-air comments criticising an umpiring decision while playing for the Melbourne Stars during a Big Bash League semi-final.
Pietersen was wearing a microphone when he criticised an umpire's decision to turn down a caught behind appeal against Perth Scorchers batsman Sam Whiteman on 24 January. "That was a shocker, an absolute shocker," Pietersen was heard saying while fielding during the Scorchers' run chase.
After the match, Whiteman admitted he had hit the ball, while umpire Shawn Craig conceded he had made an error.
Pietersen has 48 hours to decide whether to appeal and have the issue heard by a Cricket Australia code of conduct commissioner.www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/38852886
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Post by flashblade on Feb 3, 2017 12:21:34 GMT
The present establishment hypocrisy which presently rages around world politics, is expressing itself too in cricket of whom - no surprise - Kevin Pietersen, once more, gains the short straw. Meanwhile, Pietersen has been fined 5,000 Australian dollars (£3,000) for his on-air comments criticising an umpiring decision while playing for the Melbourne Stars during a Big Bash League semi-final.
Pietersen was wearing a microphone when he criticised an umpire's decision to turn down a caught behind appeal against Perth Scorchers batsman Sam Whiteman on 24 January. "That was a shocker, an absolute shocker," Pietersen was heard saying while fielding during the Scorchers' run chase.
After the match, Whiteman admitted he had hit the ball, while umpire Shawn Craig conceded he had made an error.
Pietersen has 48 hours to decide whether to appeal and have the issue heard by a Cricket Australia code of conduct commissioner.www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/38852886 www.cricket.com.au/news/sam-whiteman-appeal-turned-down-boland-perth-scorchers-melbourne-stars-bbl-hussey-pietersen/2017-01-25
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2017 13:18:03 GMT
The present establishment hypocrisy which presently rages around world politics, is expressing itself too in cricket of whom - no surprise - Kevin Pietersen, once more, gains the short straw. Meanwhile, Pietersen has been fined 5,000 Australian dollars (£3,000) for his on-air comments criticising an umpiring decision while playing for the Melbourne Stars during a Big Bash League semi-final.
Pietersen was wearing a microphone when he criticised an umpire's decision to turn down a caught behind appeal against Perth Scorchers batsman Sam Whiteman on 24 January. "That was a shocker, an absolute shocker," Pietersen was heard saying while fielding during the Scorchers' run chase.
After the match, Whiteman admitted he had hit the ball, while umpire Shawn Craig conceded he had made an error.
Pietersen has 48 hours to decide whether to appeal and have the issue heard by a Cricket Australia code of conduct commissioner.www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/38852886 He has to appeal and surely wins. How can they fine him for telling the truth when both umpire and batsman have confirmed that he was right and it was indeed an "absolute shocker"? Why not fine Whiteman for bringing the game into disrepute? I know he was within the the rules not to walk. But he knew he had hit the ball and he stayed there. Some would call that cheating. Then after the game he boasts about having got away with it. There's something almost Orwellian about this...
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 7, 2017 10:00:31 GMT
The Cricketer Magazine Website are publishing this week an interview I carried out a few weeks ago with Rob Andrew. What was to be a 'meet and greet' get-together turned into an hour and fifteen minute chat and while many successful people portray the affable gene and share an ability to get on with people from all walks of life, I would like to feel Rob and I genuinely hit it off. One seasoned Sussex CCC hierarchy member told me this week, he feels Rob will become the best CEO the club have had and I echo this sentiment. Having known his two predecessors, Rob oozes an 'X' factor which the others lacked. The in-depth interview covers a wide range of subjects from why he has taken a massive salary cut to be at Sussex; his views on the Winter signings; his criticism of the club's former succession policy; positive but diplomatic views on the City-Based Tournament; and how his nickname 'Squeaky' came about. The interview is around 1,800 words long I will be placing The Cricketer weblink on this blog when it's published.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 7, 2017 11:10:27 GMT
Great to see one of Sussex's top seamer hopes working and learning his trade overseas. Sussex CCC @sussexccc 1m agoMORE WINTER WATCH: Sussex's @george_garton is currently working with seven other pacemen on the @ecb_cricket Pace Programme in South Africa
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 7, 2017 13:40:20 GMT
Two cricket stories to emerge yesterday dovetail each other nicely. The first from the BBC who are strong advocates of global warming. Climate Coalition released a report stating: "Science could now show that climate change made the record wet weather in December 2015 more likely." Examples used included cricket where the report claims, "Climate change caused more than £3.5m worth of damage to cricket clubs in the UK. "Two clubs, Sowerby Bridge in West Yorkshire and Appleby Eden in Cumbria, have yet to return to their grounds. And 130-year-old Corbridge Cricket Club had to have their clubhouse demolished as a result of Storm Desmond." www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/38888624The timing of the report coincides with the present Science scandal entitled 'Climategate 2' after previous ones including the leaks of researcher emails from East Anglia University in 2009. Carlisle CC under water An investigative feature published in The Mail on Sunday last weekend said that "World leaders were duped into investing billions over manipulated global warming data" at the 2015 UN climate conference in Paris. A top and highly respected climate researcher has blown the whistle on what he describes as, "previously covered-up flawed datasets." www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html#ixzz4Y0OZ1FOK This story then leads on to 'Sport England' and their funding of British sports between 2017-2021 which was announced yesterday. The top beneficiaries are Rugby Union and Netball. Worryingly, there is no mention of cricket, although, one hopes and prays, the sport will be included in the follow-up report in March. But how much will be allotted is anyone's guess. Fortunately, the present ECB coffers are well laden, where £1.6m has been earmarked for further potential storm damage in 2017. And the point of this blog? Cricket as a sport must become more self-sufficient where the days of the charity begging bowl becomes less important. www.sportengland.org/media/11540/2017-21-national-governing-bodies-of-sport-funding-feb-2017.pdf
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