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Post by coverpoint on May 23, 2015 9:59:21 GMT
Subject to fitness and availability my XI would be: Nash, Yardy, Machan, Joyce (c), Cachopa, Wright, Brown (+), Jordan, Robinson, Shahzad, Magoffin
If Machan, Yardy and Shahzad are not available Wells, Finch and Beer should come in. With Wells opening and Joyce, Cachopa moving up one with Finch batting at 6.
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Post by jonboy on May 23, 2015 18:06:01 GMT
For me if those are unfit, it has to be....
Nash Wells Joyce Cachopa Wright Finch Brown Robinson Jordan Magoffin Hobden
Would love to have played five bowlers, but our struggling top order put paid to that. Sad for Beer, because until we get our top order batting right, it's gonna be hard for him to get a game in the championship
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Post by coverpoint on May 24, 2015 5:29:09 GMT
I have seen plenty of teams play with three seamers and a spinner. Is Hobden with his no ball problems really a better option than Beer on current form?
However, the squad has been named and Beer is not in it and nor are Yardy and Machan. It looks like Wells, Finch and Jordan for Yardy, Machan and Shahzad.
Batting order: Nash, Wells, Joyce (c), Cachopa, Wright, Finch, Brown (+), Jordan, Robinson, Magoffin, Hobden
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Post by hhsussex on May 24, 2015 6:35:01 GMT
As coverpoint says, the squad has been named www.sussexcricket.co.uk/news-1/preview-sussex-return-to-four-day-action-at-hove though the 12 shown there include Piolet, which might be an indication of another option for Robinson to play him for his medium=pace bowling as insurance if Hobden has a recurrence of his no-ball problems. I'm sure he has been working hard on this and will get over it quickly. It remains a strong attack, though naturally its is disappointing that Shahzad is not yet fit, and that Machan and Yardy have not yet recovered from their calf problems. I agree that probably means a return to opening for Wells and I hope that he can translate his form for the Seconds into a steady and productive opening partnership with Nash. The Warwickshire squad is: Varun Chopra (Captain) Tim Ambrose (Wicket Keeper) Keith Barker Rikki Clarke Laurie Evans Ateeq Javid Tom Milnes Jeetan Patel William Porterfield Boyd Rankin Jonathan Trott Ian Westwood Chris Wright Clarke and Barker have both been in excellent all-round form on the juicy spring wickets, and so has Rankin. Wright and Patel have also taken wickets and Patel has also contributed as a batsman as he did at Horsham last year. Their batting is fairly strong, though it remains to be seen if Trott has fully shaken off the traumas and humiliations of the West Indies. Again, we hope that Jordan can test him as he did in the second innings at Horsham. Jordan, as we know, is a bowler who thrives on bowling and I have a fear that he is going to be a bit rusty coming into this match through having been kept under wraps by England since the final Test in the West Indies. If he watched Wood bowling yesterday he will know that he will have to bowl very well to get his place back.
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Post by jonboy on May 24, 2015 7:25:03 GMT
Let's hope Robbo can convey that message to the England management, that Jordan really does need to be bowling regularly Sure, we have a vested interest, but if England want to get the best out of Jordan, he needs to be playing games
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Post by hhsussex on May 24, 2015 7:34:25 GMT
Let's hope Robbo can convey that message to the England management, that Jordan really does need to be bowling regularly Sure, we have a vested interest, but if England want to get the best out of Jordan, he needs to be playing games His release for this match, and Friday's T20, could be a sign of a change of heart. Under previous coaching regimes the odd-man-out from each squad was never allowed back to his county when Tests were so closely spaced as these are. Either Farbrace is more perceptive about these matters, which sounds likely from all those who know his past work, or he has already decided that he wants Wood for the 2nd Test and is fairly relaxed about Jordan playing in the interim, and perhaps again be summoned to the sq uad on Wednesday night/Thursday morning. We shall see.
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Post by fraudster on May 24, 2015 9:16:26 GMT
I forgot about Wright - I'll strap myself in and you flick the switch HH. I would swap Wright for Yardy at five from my original mind-bending side. I'm not sure if you're anti Beer, like Robbo, or anti spinner, like all of county cricket and England, but if he played he would bowl, as he is a bowler. How you can suggest Piolet could play but Beer couldn't makes little sense to me and JB's assertion that our unpredictable top order also spells the end for a spinner is equally baffling - Beer's inclusion is about our lower middle order, not top order. Ship of fools.
Anyway, if all said to be unfit are unfit and Beer as per norm is about as close to a call-up as Soft & Fluffy, I would go with JB's team above. But I will continue to pray for the day when Beer can make hay - that rhymed, not twice but thrice, and that did too, but just twice, and everybody knows it did.
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Post by hhsussex on May 24, 2015 9:40:35 GMT
Sunshine here despite the forecast and Warwicks have won the toss and will bat. Piolet is omitted and Javid in for Porterfield. If the sun continues it should be a good day to bat.
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Post by slowmediumfilth on May 24, 2015 12:11:42 GMT
....or pick up a five-for before lunch for next to nothing! It looks like good bowling by Robinson on the scorecard; anyone able to give first-hand report?
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Post by jonboy on May 24, 2015 14:39:18 GMT
180 all out, well I think most of us would have settled for that at the start of play
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Post by rusty on May 24, 2015 15:33:46 GMT
I've noticed that Wells has a propensity for monopolising the strike, and we've just seen it again in this innings with his facing four full consecutive overs, nicking a single off the last ball of three of them. We were always taught to rotate the strike to keep the scoreboard ticking and stop the bowlers from settling and besides, we need Nash to be getting on with it and not fretting at the other end. PS. 38 extras in a total of 180
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Post by howardh on May 24, 2015 18:22:43 GMT
Just got back. Ollie bowled very well. Might even have had 8 with luck. Mags bowled well to clean up the tail. Too many extras again. Some of the byes simply were not Ben Brown's fault. Looked at the pitch at tea. Do not hold out any hope of a fourth day's play. Variable bounce all day. Nash and Joyce got brutes. The plates will get worse. Wells batted beautifully. Simply had to leave after horror shots from Finch and, in particular, Luke Wright, who after not getting off the mark was visibly agitated and charged the first ball of Patel's 3rd or 4th over and despite Ambrose's fumble was stumped by at least 6 feet. Horrible. If we get a similar lead to Middlesex in the last match at Hove we should win some time on Tuesday.
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Post by coverpoint on May 24, 2015 18:41:36 GMT
I concur with HH about Robinson, the prospects for play on day 4 and about the byes. I thought the ball kept low on Finch but I don't know what Wright was doing.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 24, 2015 18:50:57 GMT
Interesting debate: Should Sussex have batted through murk and darkness when facing a red ball even though the floodlights were full on?
One Member didn't think so. He left disgusted saying the players should have come off hours before the end of the game. When asked as one of the watching public wouldn't you rather watch cricket than an empty pitch and outfield he said adamantly "No!"
So, did the conditions cause the middle order collapse? And shouldn't the ball be changed to a different colour?
After spectacular bowling from Ollie and where 9 of the wickets were taken from the Sea End, apart from Wells batting whose brief time in the 2nds has done him a world of good, the excellent bowling was let down by poor batting.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 18:57:53 GMT
Missed Ollie's latest impersonation of Superman but turned up for the last session with two grandchildren in tow and was impressed by Luke Wells return to form and by Jeets Patel, who along with Magoffin, is the closest thing in the modern game to the old fashioned oveerseas' players who graced the county game in the 60s and 70s, as opposed to the current mercenary tribe who jet in for two or three games in between the IPL and CPL.
At 115-2 with ten overs to go, it was Sussex's day. Half an hour later it was game even. Brown, Jordan and Robinson need to double the score tomorrow to reassert Sussex's superiority.
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