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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 1, 2014 12:35:26 GMT
At least a powerful starting point for Vincent's long road to redemption. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/28108634Meanwhile, it is interesting how the media twist and turn a big story to help ease the public's consternation. They are still banging the drum that Lou Vincent was vulnerable to cricket corruption because of his 'mental weak state' ie. his depression. Here is that angle used again, this time by a former team-mate Iain O'Brien, who says Vincent had been "aloof" at times and suffered some "dark days" around the team. "In a lot of those ways he becomes, sadly, quite an easy target." Was Cronje a manic depressive or Westfield, Amir, Bhatt and Arif? Even more ridiculous when Vincent has said various times that his match-fixing exploits had "nothing to do" with his depression. Even Dr David Kelly was branded a depressive to explain away his suicide, after a group of British doctors challenged the verdict, stating this cause of death was untenable. In a more sympathetic world towards mental ill-health, using depression as a primary excuse does not hold sway anymore and is a slight against the 300m people worldwide who suffer from the illness. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/28105209
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Post by hhsussex on Jul 1, 2014 15:28:58 GMT
As you say, how deep will the enquiry go? I hope for Sussex's sake it ends here. Imho, the ECB will not have the balls to dig too deep. The ICC have made their position quite clear for decades. The ECB may merely follow their line, once they realise how deep the alleged corruption goes which in one way is sad, but in another keeps cricket alive as a thriving world sport. As that famous Morpheus quote from 'The Matrix' goes: "You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes." The ECB: "I will take the blue pill, please!" www.theargus.co.uk/sport/11311149.Match_fixer_Vincent_banned_for_life/?ref=ebBut at least some players recognise there is a problem and that it needs to be confronted outside the narrow box of ECB/ICC interests: .... England Twenty20 captain and bowler Stuart Broad described the situation as "very sad". "The only way to get rid of the match-fixing problem is to have it blown to bits," said the Nottinghamshire paceman, adding he hoped Vincent would "break it open a little bit". "It's horrible to think that goes on in a game you love and you train so hard for and fight for every day," continued Broad. "I'd hope I've not played with that many players who have ventured into that sort of thing."
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 2, 2014 11:28:46 GMT
No surprise Sussex welcome the life-ban of Lou Vincent and believe the Club can move on from here. CEO Zac Toumazi says: “The episode has been a very difficult time for our players, staff and indeed all supporters of Sussex cricket. We welcome the sanction imposed. We are determined to do all we can to drive this issue away from our game and remain vigilant and committed in doing so."
www.theargus.co.uk/sport/11313169.Sussex_welcome_life_ban_for_Vincent/?ref=eb
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 2, 2014 19:03:12 GMT
More background information about Vincent's match-fixing comes out as he talks to New Zealand TV3. There is a reference once more to - one presumes and allegedly - Chris Cairns. Vincent said he initially turned down the approach, but changed his mind when he discovered a personal hero of his was involved in fixing matches. Vincent said he was "angry at the system" following the end of his international career "There was no way I could say no," he said. "The person I was working for was a huge role model to me."
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/28128135Meanwhile, 'The Telegraph' picks up on this alleged connection. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/10939145/Lou-Vincent-match-fixing-apology-puts-Chris-Cairns-on-spot.html
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 3, 2014 10:54:35 GMT
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Post by fraudster on Jul 3, 2014 20:55:49 GMT
I wouldn't believe a word of either of the a**e-h***s. Just put them both in prison, and any other !*$! who does it and be done with it.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 17, 2014 10:07:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 13:24:20 GMT
I hear reports that some dodgy characters with laptops and mobile phones were apprehended and thrown out at Canterbury during the televised Kent v Somerset T20 last week - the game that was abandoned when Kent CCC told the umpires they were turning off the floodlights in the middle of an over. If the story I heard is true, it sounds like it was an organised ACU sting, as I am told ACU officals searched bags for laptops on entry and certain suspicious people were then put under surveillance during the match.
Apparently this happens far more often than we realise and is now routine practice at televised matches.
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Post by longhops on Jul 26, 2014 19:55:47 GMT
I hear reports that some dodgy characters with laptops and mobile phones were apprehended and thrown out at Canterbury during the televised Kent v Somerset T20 last week - the game that was abandoned when Kent CCC told the umpires they were turning off the floodlights in the middle of an over. If the story I heard is true, it sounds like it was an organised ACU sting, as I am told ACU officals searched bags for laptops on entry and certain suspicious people were then put under surveillance during the match. Apparently this happens far more often than we realise and is now routine practice at televised matches. BM. it also happened at STL V Essex in June. I saw the head of security at the break on that night. He had already thrown out 3 characters who were using their mobile phones a lot that night. Then had another character arrested and taken away by the boys in blue. So it is happening every time there's a televised game, probably all around the country, not just at Canterbury. Wonder if the same thing will happen in the Royal London 50 over games that are televised?
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Post by mrsdoyle on Jul 26, 2014 20:57:19 GMT
I hear reports that some dodgy characters with laptops and mobile phones were apprehended and thrown out at Canterbury during the televised Kent v Somerset T20 last week - the game that was abandoned when Kent CCC told the umpires they were turning off the floodlights in the middle of an over. If the story I heard is true, it sounds like it was an organised ACU sting, as I am told ACU officals searched bags for laptops on entry and certain suspicious people were then put under surveillance during the match. Apparently this happens far more often than we realise and is now routine practice at televised matches. BM. it also happened at STL V Essex in June. I saw the head of security at the break on that night. He had already thrown out 3 characters who were using their mobile phones a lot that night. Then had another character arrested and taken away by the boys in blue. So it is happening every time there's a televised game, probably all around the country, not just at Canterbury. Wonder if the same thing will happen in the Royal London 50 over games that are televised? That's interesting, at the televised Sussex Glamorgan game stewards/security personnel twice came into the SW stand and escorted people away, on one occasion this was very close to where I was sitting, the men asked why and the stewards wouldn't say, just that they had authority and had been asked to take them to the office.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 21:01:33 GMT
Mrs Doyle, I also saw someone with a laptop taken away for questioning at the Glam game.
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Post by mrsdoyle on Jul 26, 2014 21:04:12 GMT
Mrs Doyle, I also saw someone with a laptop taken away for questioning at the Glam game. Scary isn't it, my son thought perhaps the ones we saw were drunk but they didn't look drunk to me. Good news is Sussex seem to be on the ball.
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Post by twelvegrand on Jul 26, 2014 23:06:35 GMT
Glad the ECB are acting now on what everybody happens whether it is match fixing or shaving tine.
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Post by coverpoint on Jul 27, 2014 10:26:31 GMT
Is everyone who turns up to the ground going to be arrested and have their laptop ceased?
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Post by hhsussex on Jul 27, 2014 11:03:37 GMT
Is everyone who turns up to the ground going to be arrested and have their laptop ceased? Not merely laptops, I know of a very suspicious character constantly seen with his I-Pad in hand...
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