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Post by joe on Jul 7, 2015 18:47:10 GMT
Of course they have enough runs to declare before lunch. I was a touch ambitious about our winning chances, didn't realise it was close of play, but we're calling the shots and if Joyce has a pair he'll realise that we can go straight into T20 mode tomorrow, promote Wright, and hit 100 off 15 tops. That would mean 346 off 78 on a cooler cloudier last day, a substantial test for anyone. I hope we're brave but I suspect Joyce won't be. It's worth the minimal risk, for me. We need the points - win = 20? Draw = 8? Loss = 4. Something like that, the difference is too small to concern yourself from draw to loss but from draw to win... That's the spirit Fraudster, I like your thinking! |
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Post by hhsussex on Jul 7, 2015 18:51:10 GMT
Of course they have enough runs to declare before lunch. I was a touch ambitious about our winning chances, didn't realise it was close of play, but we're calling the shots and if Joyce has a pair he'll realise that we can go straight into T20 mode tomorrow, promote Wright, and hit 100 off 15 tops. That would mean 346 off 78 on a cooler cloudier last day, a substantial test for anyone. I hope we're brave but I suspect Joyce won't be. It's worth the minimal risk, for me. We need the points - win = 20? Draw = 8? Loss = 4. Something like that, the difference is too small to concern yourself from draw to loss but from draw to win... Love to agree with you, and certainly I'm in full accord about the way the seamers responded this morning, despite my own dourest forebodings, but I'm mindful of this earlier game at Taunton cricketarchive.com/Archive/Scorecards/736/736603.html. The boot was on the other foot and Somerset must have thought they had nothing to lose and everything to gain....but that's the Taunton pitch for you, and 4 an over is just the opening bid. Tomorrow Sussex might get to 480/490 by lunch, and that would leave Somerset 420-ish to get. Delay it and it's a draw for certain; anticipate it by declaring at 420 half an hour before lunch, and you end up with something like the Middlesex win, particularly as Sussex will have to bowl a lot os overs from the spinners. Magoffin and Robinson - or even Hobden - might break through early and decisively, but if they don't and/or can't sustain it, Somerset have plenty of sloggers who could go after a victory that they need as much as Sussex. Hope I'm wrong but I think this is a losing draw for us. |
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Post by fraudster on Jul 7, 2015 20:58:13 GMT
They didn't declare though - not sure what difference that makes, if any. Who cares anyway, you can't legislate for that, it happens now and then. More often that not though, it doesn't, and the team setting 346 in 80 will, well draw probably, but they're more likely to win than lose. Take chances. I'd rather us lose trying to win than draw trying to draw and over the course of the season I'd rather us be 7-7-2 than 4-3-9, or something. One important factor about an attacking mentality is having a good team, believe it or not. Worcs and Hants maybe couldn't pull it off and would keep getting bravely battered, but would we? I guess if we had CJ and Shahzad and or a quality spinner even Cautious Ed might be tempted by a gun-ho style.
Whatever, I'm glad we've managed to turn this game right round either way. Wells, Joyce, Machan, Nash, Wright and Brown are potentially all in some form at last.
I nearly commented on your dour forebodings last night HH but I was busy fighting off my own.
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Post by hhsussex on Jul 8, 2015 11:09:07 GMT
Sussex at 399-2, a lead of 333, with 76 overs to bowl today, all at the time of making this post. That is probably a minimum for declaration on this track and with the potential of Somerset's strokeplayers and downright hitters. Another 30 runs in 15 minutes would be even better and then it is up to the bowlers. If a breakthrough or three can be made before lunch there is just a chance, provided Joyce keeps on rotating the faster men and there is something for his part-time spinners to use.
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Post by philh on Jul 8, 2015 11:10:29 GMT
This could be the first time this season that we have batted the opposition out of a game. I might also mean that more than 50% of our runs come from the first 5 wickets at last.
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Post by hhsussex on Jul 8, 2015 11:32:54 GMT
Cachopa gone. Declare now Sussex or not at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 11:44:21 GMT
I just noticed on the score widget that the runs had dried up at 468-4 so assumed that Sussex had declared.
But when I looked at cricinfo's full scorecard,it says we are still batting on but are currently off for bad light. As it is now a quarter to one, I think we can take it that Somerset will not be batting this side of lunch. Perhaps Nash fancies a double century?
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Post by sussexforever on Jul 8, 2015 12:14:58 GMT
Fantastic knocks from Machan & Nash. Will the declaration be made or the score be pushed on another 30-40 runs? Always doable down at Taunton!
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Post by hhsussex on Jul 8, 2015 12:35:12 GMT
Great fun from Luke Wright - 32 runs off 10 balls from Rehamn - and a declaration at last. 425 runs in 69 maximum overs isn't likely to be enticing to Somereset's batsmen, so the onus is on Sussex to make the inroads and keep up the pressure - otherwise it will be three hours of blocking and a bored handshake, and Sussex anchored down in the last three.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 8, 2015 12:46:11 GMT
We know Somerset are chokers and that Magoffin has an edge over their batsmen. Anything can happen if we get a few quick wickets and Somerset are 14-2. COME ON!! Meanwhile, while walking around Hove today, I overheard a number of conversations in the street about the Ashes including one man who reckoned the Aussies were batting! A great time to be a cricket follower.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 13:02:02 GMT
Declared too soon. Luke Wright needed 8 more runs to overtake Bairstow as Div One's leading runscorer!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 13:28:17 GMT
Only joking, of course. Setting 425 was ludicrous even on a Taunton wuicket reverting to type.
My prediction is that when the 4.50pm handshake comes, Somerset won't even have got half way towards the target...
It was clear from the way Sussex batted last night (23 runs from the last ten overs) that they had already decided they would be happy with 5 pts for the draw.
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Post by hhsussex on Jul 8, 2015 13:47:47 GMT
Only joking, of course. Setting 425 was ludicrous even on a Taunton wuicket reverting to type. My prediction is that when the 4.50pm handshake comes, Somerset won't even have got half way towards the target... It was clear from the way Sussex batted last night (23 runs from the last ten overs) that t hey had already decided they would be happy with 5 pts for the draw.And if Worcestershire can pull off a win against Hampshire they will be level with Sussex on 102 points from 10 matches. Notts will pick up a draw against Middlesex, giving them 103 from 10. Somerset will be happy with 108 from 9, and Hampshire (76 from 10) will prop up the table. |
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Post by hhsussex on Jul 8, 2015 14:19:25 GMT
84-4 and Wells 3-11. It would be so nice to be wrong. Good luck Sussex
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Post by philh on Jul 8, 2015 14:22:26 GMT
Heck, 84 for 5. This will stop me working.
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