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Post by moderator1 on Jul 22, 2015 6:16:41 GMT
By tomorrow night 23 July we will know how much significance this last preliminary match has for Sussex, depending on how Surrey perform against Middlesex. The other game played on Friday night between Essex and Kent could also affect our fate.
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Post by crickettrader on Jul 22, 2015 6:24:35 GMT
Good of Surrey to let us switch venue to give us home advantage!
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Post by moderator1 on Jul 22, 2015 6:34:14 GMT
Good of Surrey to let us switch venue to give us home advantage! Thanks crickettrader, I was obviously thinking of the Hoval when I wrote that thread title!
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Post by philh on Jul 22, 2015 17:16:51 GMT
Good of Surrey to let us switch venue to give us home advantage! Surely you mean that Surrey would be giving themselves away adventure given our home form.
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Post by crickettrader on Jul 23, 2015 3:46:08 GMT
Given the current appalling weather forecast for Friday a washout at the Oval and Chelmsford should be enough for us to secure 2nd place
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Post by jonboy on Jul 23, 2015 8:48:57 GMT
Given the current appalling weather forecast for Friday a washout at the Oval and Chelmsford should be enough for us to secure 2nd place and we'd surely take that now
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 9:50:24 GMT
If the weather forcast is correct, there will be no play at The Oval tomorrow night and no play at Horsham in the first 50 overs cup game on Sunday - and probably no play at the Ageas on Monday where Sussex are due to take on Hants. A couple of wash-outs at the start of a competition that is only 8 matches long is going to turn qualification into a bit of a lottery...
In fact I can't recall such relentless July monsoons in years, although Saturday is forecast to provide a sunny interlude. Let's hope they've got it wrong and the weather predicted for Sat turns up at Horsham 24 hours late !
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 23, 2015 13:41:37 GMT
Yep, the two next Sussex cricketing days both look a wash-out but will 16 points be enough to gain a home QF place as CT suggests? If Hampshire easily beat Somerset tonight? the run-rate - may be not? Or is it based on the number of losses? I can't remember. As Sussex will have one less loss to Hampshire. Typical though that after such a highly fought 'Southern League' table, the weather once more may decide the final outcomes. Especially when The Oval is a sell-out on Friday. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/english-twenty20/table
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Post by fraudster on Jul 23, 2015 16:11:20 GMT
As an experienced weather forecast follower I would be surprised if those mugs have Friday right, let alone Sunday. Frankly, they have no idea about Sunday or beyond. They may have Friday right but don't put your house on it. I'll be interested to see cos I ain't s******g you about being a forecast follower. These people are definitely wrong over 50% of the time. When they invent a device to predict which way the wind will blow and at what speed you can start putting a bit more faith in it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 20:22:56 GMT
Game is now live on Sky Sports tomorrow - if the weather permits any play.
After Hants winning tonight, Sussex need two pts to get a home q/f. Don't think a wash-out and one point will do it, as I am pretty sure number of wins decides before it gets down to NRR? And Hants have eight wins to Sussex's seven.
But I think wash-outs all over the country would give Sussex an away tie to Birmingham Bears or Worcs.
Presumably Ed Joyce will be in the Sky team offering impartial TV commentary ...
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Post by jimbon on Jul 23, 2015 20:51:19 GMT
As far as I can see wins do not come into it. Level on points then net run rate assuming rules I am reading are up to date. Therefore will finish above Hants if rained off on Friday.
21.10.4 The tie breaker for teams finishing equal on points will be a) The team with the higher net run rate in the group will be placed in the higher position. b) If net run rate can not separate the teams then the drawing of lots will decide the higher placed finish
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Post by rusty on Jul 24, 2015 1:40:45 GMT
As far as I can see wins do not come into it. Level on points then net run rate assuming rules I am reading are up to date. Therefore will finish above Hants if rained off on Friday. 21.10.4 The tie breaker for teams finishing equal on points will be a) The team with the higher net run rate in the group will be placed in the higher position. b) If net run rate can not separate the teams then the drawing of lots will decide the higher placed finish The drawing of lots is a totally appropriate method for deciding precedence - indeed, the only superior method that occurs to me is an arse-kicking contest.
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Post by jimbon on Jul 24, 2015 5:59:02 GMT
If only they were to introduce arse-kicking, how good would we be at it, so many targets to choose from at the moment. ?
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Post by hhsussex on Jul 24, 2015 6:31:03 GMT
If only they were to introduce arse-kicking, how good would we be at it, so many targets to choose from at the moment. ? But where we would we get a team of one-legged men from? I know! Limp forward the massed ranks of the injured seam-bowlers. Problem solved.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 7:55:16 GMT
As far as I can see wins do not come into it. Level on points then net run rate assuming rules I am reading are up to date. Therefore will finish above Hants if rained off on Friday. 21.10.4 The tie breaker for teams finishing equal on points will be a) The team with the higher net run rate in the group will be placed in the higher position. b) If net run rate can not separate the teams then the drawing of lots will decide the higher placed finish Thnaks, jimbon. If that's so and Sussex get a home tie on the back of seven wins , I'd say Hants with eight wins will have the right to feel peeved. In effect Sussex will have gone through on the point obtained from the abandoned game v Surrey at Arundel, where they had not batted particularly well and WASP would probably have had them down as more likely to lose than win. If tonight at the Oval is rained off, Sussex will have taken two points from Surrey without having bowled a single ball at them! Still, Sussex have not had much luck this season, so they deserve a break and if it gets the club a bumper pay day with a home q/f, so much the better. The chances of getting any play at The Oval seem to grow ever more remote - BBC now predicting two months of average summer rainfall to land on London tonight! Forgive my confusion over the rules. Perhaps it is the championship I'm think of, where teams level on points are differentiated by the number of wins?
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