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Post by theleopard on Oct 26, 2018 9:50:47 GMT
Bazpan - as you say, surely common sense will have to prevail regarding commercial activities. On non-match days, these will have no effect on what is going on cricket-wise.
However, player facilities present a much bigger challenge. The Hundred's teams will presumably need the host grounds for their own training and match preparation, and it's hard to see this working alongside the county squads.
That would mean the counties' players would need to be based elsewhere, but where? I believe Warwickshire are ahead of the game here in that they have developed the ground at Portland Road as a satellite base. I haven't been there, but presumably it is up to standard to make it workable as a temporary 1st team base. Note that I'm talking specifically about daily training and preparation here, not playing matches at outgrounds, for which presumably all will be able to find a solution. But most outgrounds simply don't have the state-of-the art facilities, including an extensive indoor area, not to mention things such as daily catering, laundry facilities, etc., that a modern county club needs to carry out its first team preparation, as well as academy/youth, women's cricket training, etc.
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Post by flashblade on Oct 31, 2018 16:45:31 GMT
Pleased to see the initial, tentative signs of wanting to stick with the T20 format. I look forward to watching how the ECB squirm their way out of their ridiculous "One Hundred" fiasco. I see that the ECB continues to slide away from the original concept: in their announcement re structural changes to the domestic fixture list today, they now use the expression "the New Competition". Who thinks "The Hundred" will survive? "https://sussexcricket.co.uk/news/three-championship-division-two-2019-part-mens-domestic-structure-changes
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 2, 2018 10:49:22 GMT
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Post by flashblade on Nov 2, 2018 10:59:09 GMT
The ECB continues to make it up as it goes along. Pathetic.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 2, 2018 12:06:52 GMT
Certainly, it is far less risky for the ECB to gain outside investment and why CA were brave to take on the challenge of private ownership which led to the initial $33m loss in the first 5 years. But that risk has paid off for them.
My question being, given the unproven aspect of the '100 Ball' would any major investors come forward until it becomes a success? And why I believe the ECB must take the plunge and risk it alongside the support of the SKY money.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 30, 2018 9:50:45 GMT
The army of critics of the '100 Ball' including journos like Lizzy Ammon and George Dobell must be turning in their piles of disgust as the ECB confirm... "There will be a 100 Ball Tournament!" The format is made up of ten 10-ball overs, which are bowled by one or two bowlers, in clutches of either five or 10 consecutive balls. It has already been taken up at club level in the Midlands, where Warwickshire sides will take part in a competition as early as 2019. So brace yourselves for a marmite competition which will either be a huge success or evaporate like a damp squib. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/46387938
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Post by flashblade on Nov 30, 2018 10:06:45 GMT
The army of critics of the '100 Ball' including journos like Lizzy Ammon and George Dobell must be turning in their piles of disgust as the ECB confirm... "There will be a 100 Ball Tournament!" The format is made up of ten 10-ball overs, which are bowled by one or two bowlers, in clutches of either five or 10 consecutive balls. It has already been taken up at club level in the Midlands, where Warwickshire sides will take part in a competition as early as 2019. So brace yourselves for a marmite competition which will either be a huge success or evaporate like a damp squib. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/46387938I am dismayed. I hope: - cricket lovers will boycott the tournament. - it pours with rain. - it proves to be a dismal flop. Perhaps i should get off the fence!
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 30, 2018 10:37:51 GMT
I am excited. I really am. : New people to cricket will love the tournament. : The sun shines down on every match day. : The '100 Ball' proves to be a fantastic success. I am off the fence and dancing to Tina Turner's 'Simply the Best' www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvCyFHWBUlc WAHEY!
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Post by flashblade on Nov 30, 2018 12:35:08 GMT
I am excited. I really am. : New people to cricket will love the tournament. : The sun shines down on every match day. : The '100 Ball' proves to be a fantastic success. I am off the fence and dancing to Tina Turner's 'Simply the Best' www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvCyFHWBUlc WAHEY! Sorry, WC - what are the grounds for your optimism?
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Post by joe on Nov 30, 2018 12:48:27 GMT
It is the start of a slippery slope. 4 day CC cricket will be the first casualty followed by Test cricket. There will be no player loyalties to club or region, it will be every man for himself going where the biggest pay packet is.
Not for me thanks.
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Post by flashblade on Nov 30, 2018 13:01:13 GMT
It is the start of a slippery slope. 4 day CC cricket will be the first casualty followed by Test cricket. There will be no player loyalties to club or region, it will be every man for himself going where the biggest pay packet is. Not for me thanks. I agree - it is short-termism in the extreme.
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Post by glosexile on Nov 30, 2018 22:08:16 GMT
It is the start of a slippery slope. 4 day CC cricket will be the first casualty followed by Test cricket. There will be no player loyalties to club or region, it will be every man for himself going where the biggest pay packet is. Not for me thanks. Nail hit firmly on the head, Joe. The onward march of the cricket mercenary continues. The recent comments from the PCA suggests that they view this coming era as being "loadsamoney times" for their members. Additionally, have seen it quoted that a coach of one of the new teams is likely to earn around £65k for 5 weeks work. Given the more recent revelations regarding escalating costs and plummeting cash reserves, does anyone really have any confidence in the ECB's ability to exercise sensible financial prudence in the future? Yet again we are faced with a shambolic fixture list for 2019, with little or no weekend or bank holiday cricket. Still don't despair, the prospect for the 2020 fixtures is absolutely dire. We will then be left with the prospect of: 1. County Cricket - early/late season weekday cricket, exclusively aimed at the retired. 2. T20 - aimed at the party scene, those with plenty of disposable income who are able to afford to consume large volumes of expensive/rip off beer . 3. A 50 over competition (presumably minus a sponsor) - aimed at the committed Second Eleven followers. 4. The Hundred - aimed at some apparent new audience of Mums and kids. (Presumably based on some mythical market research!). Very easy to forecast that millions will be spent on promoting The Hundred. Anyway, the ECB will no doubt be pleased to hear that you can also firmly count me out (never aimed at the likes of me in the first place).
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Post by liquidskin on Nov 30, 2018 22:24:16 GMT
It is the start of a slippery slope. 4 day CC cricket will be the first casualty followed by Test cricket. There will be no player loyalties to club or region, it will be every man for himself going where the biggest pay packet is. Not for me thanks. Noooo, 4 day cricket and Test cricket will never die, no chance. I don't get the hundred ball thing at all, making massive overs, sharing bowlers. Spose they wanna make a statement of some sort but they're changing too much I think.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Dec 2, 2018 14:09:10 GMT
Fb,
...what are the grounds for your optimism?
Just saw your post. Straight-forward. In 2002, the T20 tournament was first proposed by the English. After much persuasion from the ECB, finally a majority of Counties agreed. Only 7 voted against the competition including Sussex CCC. This tournament went on to revitalise cricket around the world and is now a primary reason why the England Championship and Test cricket still exist due to the major media money derived.
T20 = Survival of the Championship and Test cricket during the last 15 years.
Now the cycle has gone 360 degrees, another new tournament is required - not to keep the Championship and Test cricket alive - but to keep cricket alive in England come 20 years time. A whole new generation of British people must be attracted to our wonderful sport, so that it thrives. At the turn of the 19th/20 century, the No.1 sport in England was Croquet. Now look at its standing. Cricket could go the same way unless something new and innovative occurs. The T10 is proving a hit already and so will the '100 Ball'. This means in 20 years time I can bring my great grandchildren to Hove, and together watch a day of Championship cricket.
Unlike football, for example, cricket must keep reinventing itself otherwise it will die.
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Post by joe on Dec 2, 2018 14:41:02 GMT
“ the T10 is proving a hit “
Really? Who is it a hit with?
I think if this 100 thing goes ahead it should be called something other than cricket as it is as far removed from the game of cricket I know and love as to be a completely different game. Perhaps it should be called “quicket”?
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