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Post by coverpoint on Aug 10, 2019 16:57:55 GMT
The Olympics are in Tokyo, so unlikely to clash, live, with an evening match in England & Wales. And Sky don't show the Olympics. But part of the media hype around the 100 is that it will be shown on free-to-air tv, that’s why the 100 was originally thought up because it’s a format that will fit into a BBC sport slot of 3 hours! You could fit the T20 into three hours if you cut out the pre amble aka bull****! |
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Post by joe on Aug 10, 2019 17:34:00 GMT
But part of the media hype around the 100 is that it will be shown on free-to-air tv, that’s why the 100 was originally thought up because it’s a format that will fit into a BBC sport slot of 3 hours! You could fit the T20 into three hours if you cut out the pre amble aka bull****! Completely agree cp which is why the hundread is a total waste of time. |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 12, 2019 11:17:22 GMT
I wonder which team?
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Post by flashblade on Aug 12, 2019 13:24:49 GMT
These 'big name' coaches will mean nothing to all the non-cricket lovers who the ECB expects to flock to the 100. |
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Post by Bazpan on Aug 12, 2019 15:09:02 GMT
Kirsten will be coaching Welsh Fire. He has "absolutely no doubt that it is going to be fun and it is going to be entertaining. The countdown from 100 balls I think is brilliant." He thinks the option of bowling a Super Ten "will bring a really interesting dynamic into the game", which sounds quite a lot like Sanjay Patel's "fresh tactical dimension" of the mandatory 10-ball final over that was originally planned. What he likes about cricket in the UK is that "I get the sense that people are taking care of the game. Every stakeholder takes care of the game." I might give him an argument about that.
He wouldn't want to dissuade kids and families from coming. "I’ve got two boys so they would definitely want to come. For me the whole family can come ... You can go for three hours and have a real family experience." (Change the bleedin' record!)
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Post by flashblade on Aug 12, 2019 15:42:52 GMT
Kirsten will be coaching Welsh Fire. He has "absolutely no doubt that it is going to be fun and it is going to be entertaining. The countdown from 100 balls I think is brilliant." He thinks the option of bowling a Super Ten "will bring a really interesting dynamic into the game", which sounds quite a lot like Sanjay Patel's "fresh tactical dimension" of the mandatory 10-ball final over that was originally planned. What he likes about cricket in the UK is that "I get the sense that people are taking care of the game. Every stakeholder takes care of the game." I might give him an argument about that.
He wouldn't want to dissuade kids and families from coming. "I’ve got two boys so they would definitely want to come. For me the whole family can come ... You can go for three hours and have a real family experience." (Change the bleedin' record!) Who feeds them this PR rubbish? Someone should tell him that the 'whole family' already enjoys three hours at the T20 Blast. |
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Post by deepfineleg on Aug 12, 2019 19:55:38 GMT
Have any of the coaches been independently interviewed?
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Post by Bazpan on Aug 12, 2019 22:34:16 GMT
... Gary Kirsten: "I’ve got two boys so they would definitely want to come. For me the whole family can come ... You can go for three hours and have a real family experience."
Who feeds them this PR rubbish? Someone should tell him that the 'whole family' already enjoys three hours at the T20 Blast.
Katich: "I like that it’s family-friendly ... I try to take family to games. My eldest son ... would love to see a game at Old Trafford and enjoy the atmosphere of being at a live game."
McDonald: "I’ve got two kids ... I can’t wait to bring them along for the ride as well."
Warne: "My kids would be here for sure ... They’re really excited about coming to watch some games ... It's a great day out for the family. Young boys and girls coming to the cricket will have a great time."
Kirsten: "I’ve got two boys so they would definitely want to come. For me the whole family can come ... You can go for three hours and have a real family experience."
Even those Hundred proponents who are able to speak freely often seem infected by this propaganda. Professional pundits and people in pubs will come out with pathetic taunts along the lines of "Would you rather kids and families weren't made welcome at cricket matches then?!". The other day at work someone asked me what I had against "growing the game". (I told him I wasn't going to talk to him anymore if he was going to speak like Tom Harrison). You can't just say "The Hundred will encourage kids and families" without going on to explain what exactly it is about the Hundred that will encourage them in ways that they haven't been encouraged before. Kids and families aren't staying away from the T20 Blast because the teams are too recognisable and each innings goes on for 20 balls too long.
Of course, as Flashblade says, they aren't staying away from it at all. Although, I have to say that if I had kids I wouldn't want them at some Blast games I've attended, any more than I'd take them to a betting shop. Kent games against Essex and Surrey come to mind, with spectators being sick, urinating where they stand, verbally abusing players, verbally and physically abusing other spectators. But that's a matter of scheduling, not format. Those matches are marketed as a backdrop to a post-work piss-up. Kent make that explicit by opening the gates two hours before play (it's one hour for all other matches). Why will it be any different at a Hundred game on a Friday night? And as with the T20 Blast, a Hundred match would probably be a much pleasanter place to be on a weekend afternoon and/or with a less combustible combination of supporters. We're not going to find some kind of societal magic occurring when you introduce franchise teams playing 100-ball innings.
I will always say at this point - you want kids and families? Sunday league. It was full of them. And at that point people will often accuse me of getting nostalgic for the days of Peter West, Jim Laker and the John Player League. This is the quality of debate that tends to be on offer. But the Yorkshire Bank 40 wasn't abandoned until 2013, and it wasn't for lack of crowds. Ostensibly 40-over cricket was a counter-productive irrelevance because it didn't align with the ODI format (whereas Championship cricket is in perfect alignment with the Test match format). But that won't have been the real reason, just as the kids and families imperative is just a cover story to justify an English franchise league that will come into being for no reason other than that some other countries have got one, and some of those have made money.
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Post by gmdf on Aug 13, 2019 7:35:30 GMT
What desperation the ECB are showing with their propaganda: His 'kids' are in their 20s!!  And he has been divorced from their mother for years...  |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 14, 2019 14:24:38 GMT
Another Coach secured and the Australian theme continues.
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Post by flashblade on Aug 14, 2019 16:07:42 GMT
The article says: "The news is believed to have been delayed by some counties not yet signing contracts that will set the competition in stone. The Times reported that there were grievances over governance, who owns the competition, as well as concern about the downgrading of domestic 50-over cricket a year after England won the World Cup."
At this late stage, you have to feel sorry for the ECB - not.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 16, 2019 11:03:41 GMT
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Post by flashblade on Aug 16, 2019 12:16:07 GMT
Most of us agree with James. He's preaching to the converted. We need a lot more top players to give their honest opinion on the wretched 100. Too many current players are scared of publicly opposing ECB policy, but retired players like Kirtley should be standing up for the preservation of the existing tournaments. We cannot afford to compromise any of these competitions. |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 20, 2019 7:07:15 GMT
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Post by flashblade on Aug 20, 2019 7:30:29 GMT
Not surprising. English coaches will be busy with proper cricket. |
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