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Post by lovelyboy on Jul 8, 2014 18:06:44 GMT
Hh and cp why are you writing off Zaidi so quickly? He has a terrific first class record in Pakistan outperforms all of our youngsters in the seconds and has decent bowling stats this season.
Yes he's failed with the bat so far but he's only had 7 innings.
Hh as for the Somerset game you mentioned, many a spinner has been milked by tresco and Peterson and he did get Peterson out in the end. (He also didn't get taken apart he went at just over 3 an over)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 20:19:05 GMT
Hh and cp why are you writing off Zaidi so quickly? He has a terrific first class record in Pakistan outperforms all of our youngsters in the seconds and has decent bowling stats this season. Yes he's failed with the bat so far but he's only had 7 innings. Hh as for the Somerset game you mentioned, many a spinner has been milked by tresco and Peterson and he did get Peterson out in the end. (He also didn't get taken apart he went at just over 3 an over) So why was he dropped and Tredwell brought in to replace him? |
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Post by lovelyboy on Jul 8, 2014 21:57:17 GMT
I agree he should have been dropped he was in a horror run of form with the bat so it was right for him to go and gain some confidence in the seconds. However this doesn't mean that he isn't good enough for first class cricket which people were suggesting.
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Post by wally on Jul 8, 2014 22:22:31 GMT
What a frigging tail - on form this season it starts at five with Brown then Zaidi, from the order I've seen. Hope I'm proved wrong but what a frigging tail. Doesn't take much to prove you wrong eh? 116-4 to 405... |
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Post by fraudster on Jul 8, 2014 22:27:52 GMT
Both arguments point to one thing, Will Beer. He bowls seven or eight overs for a few and he's gone - if only he was afforded the same chances as the pointless Tredwell and the clueless Zaidi - he can bat and field better than both of them too.
Signed, sealed and delivered. That's a nice straight bat from Robbo regarding the pitch but what's all this about what pitch Grounders will prepare at Horsham? An outground? I thought we had no say?
I think we should play all our remaining games on a track like this, if it's legal, and play an extra batter for Piolet, bring in Beer for either of the 'no spin twins' and trust in our ability to turn over whoever we meet - although according to my latest IQ test, I'm only an ordinary genius. Ordinary genious - what's the point?
Oi Wally! What did that have to do with the tail? Do you seriously think four batters then Brown, Zaidi... is the right way to go?
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Post by flashblade on Jul 9, 2014 6:51:48 GMT
Both arguments point to one thing, Will Beer. He bowls seven or eight overs for a few and he's gone - if only he was afforded the same chances as the pointless Tredwell and the clueless Zaidi - he can bat and field better than both of them too. Signed, sealed and delivered. That's a nice straight bat from Robbo regarding the pitch but what's all this about what pitch Grounders will prepare at Horsham? An outground? I thought we had no say?
I think we should play all our remaining games on a track like this, if it's legal, and play an extra batter for Piolet, bring in Beer for either of the 'no spin twins' and trust in our ability to turn over whoever we meet - although according to my latest IQ test, I'm only an ordinary genius. Ordinary genious - what's the point? Oi Wally! What did that have to do with the tail? Do you seriously think four batters then Brown, Zaidi... is the right way to go? Good point. We were told the club had no influence over the Arundel wicket. Would someone please explain why Horsham can be any different? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 7:26:27 GMT
Both arguments point to one thing, Will Beer. He bowls seven or eight overs for a few and he's gone - if only he was afforded the same chances as the pointless Tredwell and the clueless Zaidi - he can bat and field better than both of them too. Signed, sealed and delivered. That's a nice straight bat from Robbo regarding the pitch but what's all this about what pitch Grounders will prepare at Horsham? An outground? I thought we had no say?
I think we should play all our remaining games on a track like this, if it's legal, and play an extra batter for Piolet, bring in Beer for either of the 'no spin twins' and trust in our ability to turn over whoever we meet - although according to my latest IQ test, I'm only an ordinary genius. Ordinary genious - what's the point? Oi Wally! What did that have to do with the tail? Do you seriously think four batters then Brown, Zaidi... is the right way to go? Good point. We were told the club had no influence over the Arundel wicket. Would someone please explain why Horsham can be any different? Groundsmen at all outgrounds consult extensively in advance with the visiting county over pitch preparation. The Arundel groundsmen Lee Farquhar and Iain Sykes had talks with Sussex CCC and with Andy McKay about pitch preparation for the Yorkshire match and the same process is going on with Horsham. It would be irresponsible if this was not the case, because if the wicket at Arundel or Horsham was found to be sub-standard by an ECB pitch panel, saying "it's nothing to do with us" would not save Sussex from an 8 pts deduction in the LVCC or a 2 pts deduction in the T20. Fortunately both Sussex outgrounds have highly qualifed groundsmen and so a light touch in terms of guidance from the county is all that is required. I was slightly baffled by the report that Robinson had said that one of the arguments against outgrounds was that the county had "no control over the pitches", and wondered if something had been lost in translation. Sussex may not have total control, but they have considerable influence and so the reality is a lot more nuanced than the bald 'no control' statement suggested. |
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Post by flashblade on Jul 9, 2014 7:48:31 GMT
Good point. We were told the club had no influence over the Arundel wicket. Would someone please explain why Horsham can be any different? Groundsmen at all outgrounds consult extensively in advance with the visiting county over pitch preparation. The Arundel groundsmen Lee Farquhar and Iain Sykes had talks with Sussex CCC and with Andy McKay about pitch preparation for the Yorkshire match and the same process is going on with Horsham. It would be irresponsible if this was not the case, because if the wicket at Arundel or Horsham was found to be sub-standard by an ECB pitch panel, saying "it's nothing to do with us" would not save Sussex from an 8 pts deduction in the LVCC or a 2 pts deduction in the T20. Fortunately both Sussex outgrounds have highly qualifed groundsmen and so a light touch in terms of guidance from the county is all that is required. I was slightly baffled by the report that Robinson had said that one of the arguments against outgrounds was that the county had "no control over the pitches", and wondered if something had been lost in translation. Sussex may not have total control, but they have considerable influence and so the reality is a lot more nuanced than the bald 'no control' statement suggested. And that's the apparent inconsistency that has still to be clarified. |
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Post by maxh on Jul 9, 2014 8:34:45 GMT
Well, the highlights show brilliantly that the wickets fell on day three due to some really good bowling and some very sloppy batting including a leave to be plumb lbw.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 9:14:16 GMT
Re Horsham, I heard the groundsman is employed directly by Sussex. Horsham pay a fee fro him so Sussex have control of the surface!
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 9, 2014 10:52:16 GMT
If it's decided that Lancashire are the most likely to be the second relegation contender, their last 5 fixtures are
intriguing. Two tough ones against Notts and Yorkshire, semi-tough against Durham and Middlesex and then, of
course, the one against Sussex. In Lancs favour 4 of them are at Old Trafford with the only away game against
Sussex.
Sussex also have 5 fixtures left. Warwickshire at Horsham, Yorkshire away (tough), Notts away (tough), Lancs
at home and, perhaps, the saving grace, Northants away. So, two home and three away.
So, it is unlikely there will be wins against Notts and Yorkshire whilst Warwickshire at Horsham could go either
way given the conditions. Therefore, for Sussex to remain in division 1, a win against Northants is essential and a
win or high points draw at Hove against Lancashire 'may' be enough to stay up.
So, one could see this going down to the wire and to state the obvious a win and a high points win against Northants
being the difference. Please can the weather behave from September 23rd to 26th! It may be a cruel blow if it doesn't.
A Bit of Fun Guessing Where The Points May Occur
Yorks: 4
Notts: 4
Warwickshire: 7
Lancs: 10
Northants: 20
Total = 45 + 125 = 170 points
Surely, that should be enough to remain in Division 1 even when everyone is beating
Northants.
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