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Post by coverpoint on Aug 20, 2023 14:43:56 GMT
We have at least taken a wicket and it’s young Bertie Foreman. Good for him and for Ibrahim for reaching 50. Two crumbs of comfort from another disappointing day. Zach Lion-Catchet is the only other plus point. Our two senior batsmen have once again been absolutely rubbish.
We have had four captains this season and they have all been absolute rubbish.
I have seen better bowling in 5th Division East of the Sussex league.
Stop handing three year contracts to players. One year contracts only. Force these players to have to actually PERFORM and EARN a new contract. In the real world if you don't do your job you're sacked. The same needs to happen at Sussex. As most of the vast majority of the current Sussex players aren't fit to wear the Sussex shirt.
Andrew, Greenfield and Kirtley out!
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Post by devonexile on Aug 20, 2023 15:15:06 GMT
Adrian Harms sums it up perfectly with the use of the word 'humiliation'.
In fact that doesn't just sum up this match, it pretty much applies to almost our entire campaign in this competition.
We just cannot keep sending out a group of youngsters to consistently get battered.
I really don't know where we go from here. I still have faith in Farbrace, but he has a massive task on his hands in turning the current group into a competitive unit in all formats. It isn't going to be a quick fix.
The result today was never in doubt from the moment we submitted the team sheet.
The best decision of the day was mine, when I decided against making the best part of a 260 mile 4 hour round journey up the M5 to watch this first hand.
At least I would have got home early.
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Post by yikemardy on Aug 20, 2023 15:20:31 GMT
Not often Adrian Harms plays it with anything other than a straight bat. If even he says this can’t go on, then things must be bad. If he says players look out of their depth, then they’re probably not club cricket standard. This RLC campaign has been a nightmare. It will end some careers.
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Post by squarepoint on Aug 20, 2023 15:22:18 GMT
Interesting to consider what score Worcs would have made if batting first, 450+ I suspect.
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Post by sixandout on Aug 20, 2023 15:24:37 GMT
Pujara will be relieved he’s not to blame for this debacle.
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Post by squarepoint on Aug 20, 2023 16:24:27 GMT
Pujara will be relieved he’s not to blame for this debacle. He wasn’t blamed for the last debacle either. He was criticised (reasonably enough) for putting his batting partners under pressure by his slow scoring, not for the whole performance.
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Post by mrsdoyle on Aug 20, 2023 17:29:45 GMT
Pujara will be relieved he’s not to blame for this debacle. He wasn’t blamed for the last debacle either. He was criticised (reasonably enough) for putting his batting partners under pressure by his slow scoring, not for the whole performance. Thank you, yes, that was what I criticised him for!
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Post by mrsdoyle on Aug 20, 2023 17:33:33 GMT
I listened to the Haines interview, it was pretty brief.
Clearly he is disheartened and I feel that is reflected in his play because he CAN play.
We do have some promising youngsters, I hope they don’t throw in the towel and move to other counties where there is a better than 50% chance of winning one game per competition.
Our new bowler looks good on paper, maybe he can lift our bowlers in the remaining championship games and if we are not leaking as many runs that will lift the pressure on our batsmen.
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Post by sixandout on Aug 20, 2023 17:51:41 GMT
He wasn’t blamed for the last debacle either. He was criticised (reasonably enough) for putting his batting partners under pressure by his slow scoring, not for the whole performance. Thank you, yes, that was what I criticised him for! I think you’re right. Pujara should shoulder some of the blame for the Gloucestershire game. Perhaps, he should take extra blame as the senior professional, although several others are culpable for our poor recent efforts. However, we can’t afford to leave out players of that ability when we are struggling to put together totals that are even half-competitive. Of course, if there is some disciplinary matter like refusing to chase a total, that’s entirely different. I hope we’ve not seen the last of him.
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Post by mrsdoyle on Aug 20, 2023 17:54:33 GMT
Thank you, yes, that was what I criticised him for! I think you’re right. Pujara should shoulder some of the blame for the Gloucestershire game. Perhaps, he should take extra blame as the senior professional, although several others are culpable for our poor recent efforts. However, we can’t afford to leave out players of that ability when we are struggling to put together totals that are even half-competitive. Of course, if there is some disciplinary matter like refusing to chase a total, that’s entirely different. I hope we’ve not seen the last of him. He comes into his own more in the slower placed county game.
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Post by yikemardy on Aug 20, 2023 18:24:38 GMT
Thank you, yes, that was what I criticised him for! I think you’re right. Pujara should shoulder some of the blame for the Gloucestershire game. Perhaps, he should take extra blame as the senior professional, although several others are culpable for our poor recent efforts. However, we can’t afford to leave out players of that ability when we are struggling to put together totals that are even half-competitive. Of course, if there is some disciplinary matter like refusing to chase a total, that’s entirely different. I hope we’ve not seen the last of him.Pujara? Of course we haven’t . And hopefully he will be back next season. One of the worrying things going forward is the signings announced for next season. Danny Lamb is possibly the worst bowler we’ve faced in the RLC and Wright is Mitch Claydon Mk2. We are going backwards
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Post by sixandout on Aug 20, 2023 18:56:22 GMT
I think you’re right. Pujara should shoulder some of the blame for the Gloucestershire game. Perhaps, he should take extra blame as the senior professional, although several others are culpable for our poor recent efforts. However, we can’t afford to leave out players of that ability when we are struggling to put together totals that are even half-competitive. Of course, if there is some disciplinary matter like refusing to chase a total, that’s entirely different. I hope we’ve not seen the last of him. He comes into his own more in the slower placed county game. I agree his forte is CC games. However, as someone who can score big, he is still important in the 50-over format. We are short of fast scorers in 50-over games which, in turn, could make him more valuable. Orr missing and Haines misfiring plus no Rawlins has weakened us significantly. Of course, a bowling attack that can’t give our batters much hope makes things even worse. Players like Jack Taylor, for example, are valuable in 50-over games. He’s not a big star but capable of bludgeoning an attack as he did this year and at Eastbourne a few years ago but resilient when I saw Glos collapse at Edgbaston two weeks ago.
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Post by j on Aug 20, 2023 23:05:41 GMT
Having been at New Road today, it was humiliation. Just imagine how bad it would have been if Pujara was playing! Fools.
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Post by therealab1 on Aug 21, 2023 9:36:30 GMT
Having been at New Road today, it was humiliation. Just imagine how bad it would have been if Pujara was playing! Fools. The critique of Pujara is small and justified in my opinion. He would of course made a huge difference to any team he plays in but it was right to treat this as a 2nd XI game given we are out. Foreman and Lion-Cachet showed promise so all was not lost.
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