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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 12:24:09 GMT
Misbah-ul-Haq, currently 102* in the Test v New Zealand, following scores of 101 and 101* in the last Test v Australia, including a century in 56 balls.
Talk about improving with age - up until 12 days ago, he had only scored 5 Test centures in his career!
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Post by hhsussex on Nov 10, 2014 13:19:34 GMT
Misbah-ul-Haq, currently 102* in the Test v New Zealand, following scores of 101 and 101* in the last Test v Australia, including a century in 56 balls. Talk about improving with age - up until 12 days ago, he had only scored 5 Test centures in his career! Certainly looks like it. I'm now scurrying to the records to see who's surpassed these achievements after 40. First up must be Hobbs: M27 I43 No1 Runs2440 HS159 Avg58.09 8 100s 11 50s Any better or better sequences?
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Post by invicta1977 on Nov 10, 2014 14:35:37 GMT
How about the greatest cricketer of them all? In 1895, at age of 46, Dr WG Grace became the first man to score 1000 runs in May. By the time the season finished, Grace was 47 and had made over 2300 runs at 51. The average life span for a British male at that time was about 49.
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Post by hhsussex on Nov 10, 2014 14:46:32 GMT
How about the greatest cricketer of them all? In 1895, at age of 46, Dr WG Grace became the first man to score 1000 runs in May. By the time the season finished, Grace was 47 and had made over 2300 runs at 51. The average life span for a British male at that time was about 49. His medical qualifications notwithstanding, he was not a devotee of modern nutritional standards: "Turning out for London County against the first West Indian touring side at Crystal Palace in 1900, WG's lunch consisted of 'a real whack of the roast, followed by a big lump of cheese and a whiskey seltzer'. He was 52 at the time. He made 71."
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Post by invicta1977 on Nov 10, 2014 14:50:58 GMT
How about the greatest cricketer of them all? In 1895, at age of 46, Dr WG Grace became the first man to score 1000 runs in May. By the time the season finished, Grace was 47 and had made over 2300 runs at 51. The average life span for a British male at that time was about 49. His medical qualifications notwithstanding, he was not a devotee of modern nutritional standards: "Turning out for London County against the first West Indian touring side at Crystal Palace in 1900, WG's lunch consisted of 'a real whack of the roast, followed by a big lump of cheese and a whiskey seltzer'. He was 52 at the time. He made 71." He evidently embraced the belief of his predecessor Alfred Mynn, who claimed 'beef and beer' was the secret of a good cricketer.
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Post by hhsussex on Nov 10, 2014 14:59:29 GMT
His medical qualifications notwithstanding, he was not a devotee of modern nutritional standards: "Turning out for London County against the first West Indian touring side at Crystal Palace in 1900, WG's lunch consisted of 'a real whack of the roast, followed by a big lump of cheese and a whiskey seltzer'. He was 52 at the time. He made 71." He evidently embraced the belief of his predecessor Alfred Mynn, who claimed 'beef and beer' was the secret of a good cricketer. I've been holding to that precept myself but it has yet to come true, 10 years after Grace's whack.....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 15:34:50 GMT
His medical qualifications notwithstanding, he was not a devotee of modern nutritional standards: "Turning out for London County against the first West Indian touring side at Crystal Palace in 1900, WG's lunch consisted of 'a real whack of the roast, followed by a big lump of cheese and a whiskey seltzer'. He was 52 at the time. He made 71." He evidently embraced the belief of his predecessor Alfred Mynn, who claimed 'beef and beer' was the secret of a good cricketer. It depended where you came from (and which side of the tracks, too). In some parts of the country it was porter and plum pudding. For Lord Ted it was probably champagne and caviar. Frank Wooley played Test cricket at 47 and I believe Wilfred Rhodes was even older...
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Post by hhsussex on Nov 10, 2014 16:24:41 GMT
He evidently embraced the belief of his predecessor Alfred Mynn, who claimed 'beef and beer' was the secret of a good cricketer. It depended where you came from (and which side of the tracks, too). In some parts of the country it was porter and plum pudding. For Lord Ted it was probably champagne and caviar. Frank Wooley played Test cricket at 47 and I believe Wilfred Rhodes was even older... Unfortunately Woolley's last Test, at the Oval in 1934, found him having to deputise for Ames as wicketkeeper, whereupon he gave away the recod number of byes in an innings - 37. He also scored 4 and O. Rhodes, however, claimed a very rare gerontological record in his last Test against West Indies at Sabina Park in April 1930, when the 26 year old Clifford Roach of West Indies was caught by the 50 year old George Gunn of the 52 year old Rhodes' bowling.
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Post by invicta1977 on Nov 10, 2014 16:46:22 GMT
On the subject of oldness, I've just learned that Norman Gordon of South Africa died a couple of months ago at the age of 103. Incredible that, of all the hundreds of players who have featured in Test cricket, he's the only one to have reached three figures. In fact, only three have made it over the age of 97.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 24, 2014 16:27:40 GMT
Re: Lord Ted caviar and champagne don't forget a healthy flutter on the gee-gees. When I had the great privilege of interviewing him a few years back, he told me one of the toughest decisions of his life was to give up gambling. He and his wife Susan had retired to Nice, South of France, on an average pension, and Ted realised he couldn't afford to carry on after a spate of bad luck. Basically, Susan had put her foot down and quite rightly.
There are a number of anecdotes about Lord Ted's antics including a match at Hove where he declared early to gain a draw, so he could zip up to the Brighton racecourse to catch the last three races.
Are there are other famous cricketers from ye olde with a gambling vice?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 16:39:15 GMT
Re: Lord Ted caviar and champagne don't forget a healthy flutter on the gee-gees. When I had the great privilege of interviewing him a few years back, he told me one of the toughest decisions of his life was to give up gambling. He and his wife Susan had retired to Nice, South of France, on an average pension, and Ted realised he couldn't afford to carry on after a spate of bad luck. Basically, Susan had put her foot down and quite rightly. There are a number of anecdotes about Lord Ted's antics including a match at Hove where he declared early to gain a draw, so he could zip up to the Brighton racecourse to catch the last three races. Are there are other famous cricketers from ye olde with a gambling vice? We seem to have strayed off topic a little, but never mind because there are so many geat stories about Ted Lord (as Derbyshire fans dubbed him after he got a bit mixed up over Malcolm Devon's name) and the ones from his time as chairman of the England selectors are arguably even better than the ones from his playing days. There was the time he allegedly demanded to know why none of his fellow selectors had suggested picking Somerset's (South African) opener, Jimmy Cook. Or the time he went to Bristol and came back saying Syd Lawrence was one of the best fast bowlers he had ever seen, before his fellow selectors realised he was actually describing Courtney Walsh. But I shall always cherish his comment when Mike Gatting was caught shagging a barmaid during a vital game against Australia: "If it is embarrassing then it is wrong, but if it is private, and hopefully delightful, then what could be better, even in the middle of a Test Match?"
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Post by hhsussex on Nov 24, 2014 17:06:49 GMT
The celebrated Lionel Tennyson, grandson of the poet and captain of Hampshire, and briefly England, in the Twenties. "The reason Tennyson found himself financially embarrassed for most of his adult life was his inability to ignore even the most unlikely wager. Robin Scott-Elliott reports that he once lost £12,000 in a week – not a trifling amount even today. Not that he always lost – Malies reports that he once arrived at a Lord’s Test in a Rolls Royce, the result of a bet regarding the activities of two flies. On one trip back to the family pile to sort out his debts – causing tension more intense than a Tennessee Williams play, says Malies – it was insisted he move to India, away from temptation" [Richard H Thomas,All Out Cricket, 26.9.14] There is a wealth of tales about Tennyson, many recounted in the article quoted above. My personal favourite is of him batting with Walter Livesey, Hampshire's wicketkeeper, No 11, and also Tennyson's valet. Late in the day, in uncertain light and against fast bowling Tennyon called for a run that would have brought Livesey down to the danger end. Livesey replied to the call "I hear you my Lord, but I cannot see you".
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Post by hhsussex on Nov 24, 2014 17:11:59 GMT
Also, in the dawn of organised cricket, Lord Frederick Beauclerk. The fourth son of the 5th Duke of St. Albans, Frederick Beauclerk (May 1773, London – 22 April 1850, Westminster) was a vicar, famous cricketer and also well known as “an unmitigated scoundrel.” He was Vicar of St. Michael’s Church at St Albans and a Doctor of Divinity, as well as a star of the cricket field. Despite his religious profession, he claimed to have made at least £600 a year – a colossal sum at the time – from playing cricket for stakes. He was also terribly disliked, so much so that the Times did not even publish his obituary. He was said to be “foul-mouthed, dishonest man who was one of the most hated figures in society … he bought and sold matches as though they were lots at an auction”. It was said that a notorious criminal once refused to travel in the same coach as him on account of his “fluent and expressive vocabulary”. Another source said he was “cruel unforgiving, cantankerous and bitter”. www.regrom.com/2012/04/05/regency-villians-lord-frederick-beauclerk/
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 17:27:33 GMT
Headingley 1981. Lillee and Marsh put £15 each on with Ladbrokes for Australia to lose at 500-1, and walked away with £7,500 apiece.
They would, of course, both be banned in the current climate if they were caught doing so!
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Post by angleseymartlet on Nov 25, 2014 16:19:42 GMT
Are there are other famous cricketers from ye olde with a gambling vice? Bruce Taylor of New Zealand was truly addicted to gambling. After the end of his cricketing career he was bursar of a school in Dunedin, but had to resign when found to have stolen $360,000 to fund his habit.
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