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Post by coverpoint on Aug 9, 2014 23:25:10 GMT
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Post by jonboy on Aug 10, 2014 7:30:15 GMT
Maybe we need to go and poach somebody else's youngsters again, like we did with Luke Wright
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 10, 2014 11:59:51 GMT
Jonboy - we have the youngsters we just need Robinson to give some of them an opportunity.
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Post by jonboy on Aug 10, 2014 12:42:25 GMT
Jonboy - we have the youngsters we just need Robinson to give some of them an opportunity. Not sure that's strictly true mate Take today's eleven, six home produced players is pretty good going, especially for a county with a catchment area like ours It's for that reason we can't ignore the possibility of casting our net further afield. Luke certainly feels like one of our own, although he in fact he arrived as a seventeen year old from Leicestershire. |
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 10, 2014 13:15:59 GMT
Players are going through the Academy it is just Robinson and his coaches don't seem able / capable of developing them into professional cricketers. Looking at the Under 14, 15 and 17s we have Cammish, Garton, Haines, Hemingway, Allen, Ludlow, Smith, Doram, Sear, Oxley, Rattle and Collard coming through who would get into most other counties Academies. Would Root or Buttler have got the same chance at Sussex as they got at Somerset and Yorkshire as a youngster? At Sussex they would have had to wait until 25 to get a chance. Wright was 19 when he signed for Sussex from Leicestershire.
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Post by jonboy on Aug 10, 2014 13:58:45 GMT
Players are going through the Academy it is just Robinson and his coaches don't seem able / capable of developing them into professional cricketers. Looking at the Under 14, 15 and 17s we have Cammish, Garton, Haines, Hemingway, Allen, Ludlow, Smith, Doram, Sear, Oxley, Rattle and Collard coming through who would get into most other counties Academies. Would Root or Buttler have got the same chance at Sussex as they got at Somerset and Yorkshire as a youngster? At Sussex they would have had to wait until 25 to get a chance. Wright was 19 when he signed for Sussex from Leicestershire. I don't know, but more than half the side coming through the ranks indicates that we are doing pretty well. As has been pointed out on here before, how many of those we believe haven't been given a fair chance here, go on to have great success elsewhere It does seem that we have a particularly promising bunch at U17 level, and already quite a few have played at second eleven level. I don't think we can ask for more than that. You mentioned the other week, that you didn't see think we had too many young quicks coming through, Garton apart. Well perhaps this is an area where we could spread the net. We have only one young quick, Hobden, on the staff, and if there is only Garton coming through, we could well have a problem over the next few years. That would almost certainly mean recruiting from elsewhere, so if we could do it while they were young enough, it might make things easier than trying to compete for the finished product. Obviously Yorkshire and Somerset both have a good recent record of producing young cricketers, but both have quite large catchment areas. We are unfortunate that we are surrounded by first class counties, whereas Somerset recruit from pretty much the whole of the south west. How many cricketers to they have on their staff from Devon and Cornwall for instance. Incidentally, a strange fact, there are more players playing first class cricket from Taunton, than any other town in the UK. |
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 10, 2014 14:06:33 GMT
Seam bowling is an area where we may need to look at and next year finding two seamers to open the bowling for the under 17s is going to be a challenge especially as Bradley, Fazakerley, Piper, Smith and Twine have not made the progress I would have hoped for. Garton is an excellent prospect as is Hudson-Prentice although he is more of a batsman who bowls. Yorkshire is a big county and in Carver, Fisher and Shaw they have three youngsters who would get onto most county staff's and in Thompson, Barnes and Logan they have three players to replace them in the Academy. Four of Somerset seven Academy players are from Devon. The key to our future success is making the most of what we do have.
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Post by jonboy on Aug 11, 2014 7:19:22 GMT
CP, with your extensive knowledge of local schools and junior cricket, are you aware of any promising young players nationally that we might look at? Maybe a youngster representing a non first class county. I know Northants and Essex have successfully recruited from Norfolk in the past. We do have the link with Oxfordshire of course, but I'm not sure that it will bear dividends in terms of taking their best youngsters. Most seem to go to Gloucestershire. The Home Counties, Oxfordshire, Berkshire and Bucks have produced some good young cricketers recently and maybe this is an area we should look at.
Primarily, our focus will always be on the local scene in Sussex, that's the way it should be, and logistically it makes sense. However, when there is a dearth of a certain type of young cricketer coming through, as with the quicks at the moment, then we may have to cast the net further afield.
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 11, 2014 7:26:12 GMT
CP, with your extensive knowledge of local schools and junior cricket, are you aware of any promising young players nationally that we might look at? Maybe a youngster representing a non first class county. I know Northants and Essex have successfully recruited from Norfolk in the past. We do have the link with Oxfordshire of course, but I'm not sure that it will bear dividends in terms of taking their best youngsters. Most seem to go to Gloucestershire. The Home Counties, Oxfordshire, Berkshire and Bucks have produced some good young cricketers recently and maybe this is an area we should look at. Primarily, our focus will always be on the local scene in Sussex, that's the way it should be, and logistically it makes sense. However, when there is a dearth of a certain type of young cricketer coming through, as with the quicks at the moment, then we may have to cast the net further afield. The problem is most minor counties already have links e.g. Gloucestershire and Oxfordshire, Somerset with Cornwall and Devon, Hampshire with Berkshire, Wiltshire and Dorset, Middlesex with Berkshire, Northants / Essex with Norfolk, Lancashire with Cheshire and Notts with Linolnshire. Then there is Notts who steal all the best up and coming young players like Moores from Leicestershire. |
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