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Post by ashingtonmartlet on May 13, 2018 21:37:05 GMT
Back to normality. This is Mark Davis' team right here, doing the same things, struggling in div 2. There is no point in keeping out Whittingham and Garton with 30+ year old Kolpaks. I can get my head around it if we're gonna push for promotion but we're not. These lads need to play, make mistakes, learn and improve with game time. We're gonna be languishing in this division with the teams that are always here, we have no need for Kolpaks. It's criminal. Build your own team Gillespie with the youth that was on the spec. Rubbish. The whole reason the top order keeps failing is because we didn’t recruit and throwing in a load of youngsters isn’t working. As feared, we’re incredibly fragile and need an established batsman in there, but for some reason we decided not to recruit. Be consistent, you want us to field youngsters in that top-order - we are and it’s not working, so don’t go blaming it in on the Kolpaks when we lose. |
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on May 13, 2018 21:38:09 GMT
And we have three overseas players S&F. Why? We're not gambling on the Academy at all. Four academy grads in this side and two of them are what, 28? We're gambling on a poor squad that needed seriously bulking, and we're not even using the academy. No, we have one overseas player, you’re not allowed to play any more than that. And I agree, the squad needed bulking with recruiting from outside. |
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Post by philh on May 14, 2018 8:22:35 GMT
In simple terms, I believe we lost to a side who had two players that were head and shoulders above ours - Messrs Henry and Kuhn. Kent's other 9 looked, if I may generalise, far weaker than our team, but big performances win matches. It's easy to blame the batsmen, but this is low-scoring season around the whole country. If I were to pick the key moments in the game where we lost this one, I would choose 1) Poor bowling on the first morning to let Kent get to 125 for 2 (it improved in the afternoon) 2) A 30-odd partnership for the 10th wicket in Kent's first innings 3) The collapse at the beginning of the first innings 4) Luke Wright getting out 12 overs too soon in the second innings. If I am disappointed about anything, it is how we are the only county to have played 5 games before mid-May.
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Post by gmdf on May 14, 2018 14:50:39 GMT
As a Kent supporter who watched the whole of the recent game between our counties, can I just make a few observations?
Firstly the match was extremely close - 270 was (in the context of the game) a big "ask", but at 152-4 I fully expected Sussex to win. The dismissal of Wright to an excellent c & b by the diving Ivan Thomas swung the match our way (only the second best catch of the game, BTW, Salt's one in the gully to dismiss Rouse will almost certainly be the best I will see this season, and quite possibly next year too).
It might well be said we won because Kent's overseas players out performed Sussex's - Kuhn scored more runs than Van Zyl, Henry out bowled Sharma - and there is a lot of truth in that - but I would question why Sharma wasn't used against Kent's last wicket pair earlier in the first innings - that might have cut 20/30 runs off or total (and stopped us getting our first batting bonus point of the season!) Sharma looked far more dangerous in the second innings. Robinson, by the way, bowled very well in both innings, better than any of the other English qualified bowlers in the game.
Finally I'd question the Sussex batting order - Wiese and Burgess looked too low to me - a player with 10 first class 100s shouldn't be at number 9 in my opinion.
One last point - Brown (who batted every well in both innings) - had a moan about the pitch, and whilst he has every right to his opinion, saying that it was a 'a club wicket' does, I think, smack a little of sour grapes. It wasn't impossible to score runs on this pitch, and an exciting and even game resulted. I think most of us watching would prefer that to the sort of flat track we had at Beckenham last season (Kent 701-7d, Northants 568. K 184-3d) for example.
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Post by liquidskin on May 19, 2018 6:31:32 GMT
Back to normality. This is Mark Davis' team right here, doing the same things, struggling in div 2. There is no point in keeping out Whittingham and Garton with 30+ year old Kolpaks. I can get my head around it if we're gonna push for promotion but we're not. These lads need to play, make mistakes, learn and improve with game time. We're gonna be languishing in this division with the teams that are always here, we have no need for Kolpaks. It's criminal. Build your own team Gillespie with the youth that was on the spec. Rubbish. The whole reason the top order keeps failing is because we didn’t recruit and throwing in a load of youngsters isn’t working. As feared, we’re incredibly fragile and need an established batsman in there, but for some reason we decided not to recruit. Be consistent, you want us to field youngsters in that top-order - we are and it’s not working, so don’t go blaming it in on the Kolpaks when we lose. What? I didn't even mention the top order. When you quote someone and make a comment the idea is for it to relate, like what I'm doing here with you. I'm quoting something you said and relating my comment to it. In fact the first point I make is exactly the same as one made by JB, which you have liked. Ashington, you're confused bless you. When a big person from another country comes to this country he comes from overseas, like South Africa or India, which are two big places far far away. We have three big people called Ishant, David and Stiyaan all from far far away, not Leeds or even further like Newcastle, but somewhere overseas and into the distance. The big cricket man says we're only allowed one of these mysterious strangers in our team, but we have three and we play them all at once because we're very very naughty. For the record, I think it should be two LEGITIMATE overseas players per team, and that I shouldn't be an Emu farmer but rather a children's story teller. |
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Post by liquidskin on May 19, 2018 6:36:58 GMT
You know GMDF, searching for excuses and moaning about stuff like the track isn't unusual with Sussex over the last few years, annoyingly. Wright was a master at it. He once stopped a game because the sun was too bright. Cricketers are weird though. So what if someone's moving in the background, the world doesn't stop for you. [edited by longstop] |
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on May 19, 2018 17:32:37 GMT
Rubbish. The whole reason the top order keeps failing is because we didn’t recruit and throwing in a load of youngsters isn’t working. As feared, we’re incredibly fragile and need an established batsman in there, but for some reason we decided not to recruit. Be consistent, you want us to field youngsters in that top-order - we are and it’s not working, so don’t go blaming it in on the Kolpaks when we lose. What? I didn't even mention the top order. When you quote someone and make a comment the idea is for it to relate, like what I'm doing here with you. I'm quoting something you said and relating my comment to it. In fact the first point I make is exactly the same as one made by JB, which you have liked. Ashington, you're confused bless you. When a big person from another country comes to this country he comes from overseas, like South Africa or India, which are two big places far far away. We have three big people called Ishant, David and Stiyaan all from far far away, not Leeds or even further like Newcastle, but somewhere overseas and into the distance. The big cricket man says we're only allowed one of these mysterious strangers in our team, but we have three and we play them all at once because we're very very naughty. For the record, I think it should be two LEGITIMATE overseas players per team, and that I shouldn't be an Emu farmer but rather a children's story teller. Sorry, maybe I should’ve quoted your other post when you were giving it some drivel about not needing Kolpaks because we’re languishing around in division 2. Well maybe if we strengthen the team with them we’ll be challenging for promotion. Oh well, if we’re only allowed one overseas player but we’re playing three, we’ll get found out soon, the other two will be banned and the club docked points and fined. Presumably you didn’t like it when we won trophies from 2006-2009 with Goodwin as a Kolpak, I guess you’d have preferred us to have played all kids and won nothing. |
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