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Post by flashblade on Apr 25, 2020 14:07:02 GMT
I think that's right. From a cricketing POV we need to keep red ball cricket going, if there's enough time. Is anyone prepared to stick their neck out and say that the championship would make more money (assuming behind closed doors) than 50 overs? To what extent are these opinions influenced by what we'd personally prefer to watch?!  I want to maximise the days of cricket. If the season starts in September cc and 50 overs won't be possible.So, in that case, prioritise 50 overs so as to make some TV money? |
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Post by coverpoint on Apr 25, 2020 14:49:50 GMT
I want to maximise the days of cricket. If the season starts in September cc and 50 overs won't be possible.So, in that case, prioritise 50 overs so as to make some TV money? In that scenario it would be the T20 that would take precedence.
The priority should be as follows:
1) T20 2) County Championship 3) RLODC
"Total attendance figures for the first-class County Championship in 2018 were around 600,000. Despite the stereotypical image of a Championship crowd comprising one man and his dog, these numbers are similar to what they were 30 years ago. They have risen significantly from a low point of less than 500,000 around the turn of the century. The 50-over Royal London One Day Cup fared less well in 2018 with a total attendance of around 180,000. The final at Lords attracted a crowd of more than 20,000. But the big crowd puller is the 20-over T20 Blast which set a new attendance record of 931,000 in 2018."
Why go for a competition which only attracted 30% of the crowd that the county championship did?
2019 attendances were higher in RLODC due to the World Cup. This is unlikely to be repeated.
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Post by flashblade on Apr 25, 2020 17:40:00 GMT
So, in that case, prioritise 50 overs so as to make some TV money? In that scenario it would be the T20 that would take precedence.
The priority should be as follows:
1) T20 2) County Championship 3) RLODC
"Total attendance figures for the first-class County Championship in 2018 were around 600,000. Despite the stereotypical image of a Championship crowd comprising one man and his dog, these numbers are similar to what they were 30 years ago. They have risen significantly from a low point of less than 500,000 around the turn of the century. The 50-over Royal London One Day Cup fared less well in 2018 with a total attendance of around 180,000. The final at Lords attracted a crowd of more than 20,000. But the big crowd puller is the 20-over T20 Blast which set a new attendance record of 931,000 in 2018."
Why go for a competition which only attracted 30% of the crowd that the county championship did?
2019 attendances were higher in RLODC due to the World Cup. This is unlikely to be repeated.
Your figures don't show a comparison of the average daily attendance across the country at a) 50 over matches and b) championship matches. That would be a better indicator of popularity than a whole season's attendance. In any event, actual attendances this season are unlikely, whatever format is played. I'm going for 50 overs because I think it will produce bigger TV audiences, and thus more revenue for the ECB, which badly needs the income. |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Apr 27, 2020 7:41:07 GMT
 For anyone interested in learning more about the Covid-19 pandemic with an open mind should read this. Your present media-fuelled views may change. |
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Post by gmdf on Apr 27, 2020 8:57:11 GMT
Sorry, but you ask for an open mind for a source which clearly is only a short throw form square leg removed from Piers Corbyn or David Icke fulled hysteria (see point 20 "NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden warned that the corona crisis is used for the massive and permanent expansion of global surveillance.") Maybe your "sources" would like to explain this graph on this page: fullfact.org/health/ons-2020-covid-death-totals/  Attachments:
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Post by flashblade on Apr 27, 2020 9:00:54 GMT
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Apr 27, 2020 10:01:59 GMT
But, my dear chap, I could say exactly the same about you. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias gmdf, Graphs and research findings are often used to confirm your present beliefs. The pharmaceutical industry, for example, being a good example where trials and research are often biased towards the positive findings they want. Having spent time researching both the tranquilliser and anti-depressive prescriptive drugs catastrophes, I hold some experience. |
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Post by flashblade on Apr 27, 2020 10:09:52 GMT
But, my dear chap, I could say exactly the same about you. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias You'd be incorrect, my dear fellow! I am so conscious of CB that I try very hard to think and reason like a judge, not like a barrister making their case. See my strapline below, which I've used since this board started. BTW, you haven't denied having succumbed to CB?! |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Apr 27, 2020 10:36:57 GMT
Fb,
Meaningless, my dear chap. To form an opinion what research and findings do you follow? Usually the media because it is the easiest prescriptive comfort-food narration to follow. Who has time to plough through endless medical journals and websites, listen to doctors from both sides of the camp, nurses and patients...etc... Our thoughts and opinions are nearly always influenced and then designed by the media. As George Orwell says in 1984, “But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.” And again, “It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words.”
The mainstream media are the 'thought police' from 1984. New technologies has given them even more power than before from social media to video, so the next question. Who influences the media to take a particular line of narration? If you notice they usually fall in line like sheep being 'flocked' by a sheep dog. One of the few uplifting things about the pandemic is that the UK, at least, are finally seeing through them. Recent polls show the public have had enough of the bumbling Robert Pestons and the screaming and frenetic Piers Morgans. Their popularity has fallen through the floor. The only one, it seems, who remains popular and holds respect is Andrew Neil.
You may think you have freedom of thought, choice of opinion, and have the power to change your views, but you don't. You are led by the herd mentality and once more this has been shown up during the Covid-19 pandemic. Anyone who dares to speak out or disagrees with that mainstream narration is called a conspiracist, an extreme left or right wing antagonist, someone not to be trusted or simply dismissed as a looney tune. That is the herd mentality talking. While the West views China as a Communist country where the people are no different to those in 1984 and where Big Brother is watching over you, in the West, especially the UK, that thought control is more subtle and not so obvious. So, I am delighted to see that more and more people are beginning to see through the sham of the mainstream media. At least, that is a start.
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Post by flashblade on Apr 27, 2020 11:00:57 GMT
Fb, Meaningless, my dear chap. To form an opinion what research and findings do you follow? Usually the media because it is the easiest prescriptive comfort-food narration to follow. Who has time to plough through endless medical journals and websites, listen to doctors from both sides of the camp, nurses and patients...etc... Our thoughts and opinions are nearly always influenced and then designed by the media. As George Orwell says in 1984, “But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.” And again, “It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words.” The mainstream media are the 'thought police' from 1984. New technologies has given them even more power than before from social media to video, so the next question. Who influences the media to take a particular line of narration? If you notice they usually fall in line like sheep being 'flocked' by a sheep dog. One of the few uplifting things about the pandemic is that the UK, at least, are finally seeing through them. Recent polls show the public have had enough of the bumbling Robert Pestons and the screaming and frenetic Piers Morgans. Their popularity has fallen through the floor. The only one, it seems, who remains popular and holds respect is Andrew Neil. You may think you have freedom of thought, choice of opinion, and have the power to change your views, but you don't. You are led by the herd mentality and once more this has been shown up during the Covid-19 pandemic. Anyone who dares to speak out or disagrees with that mainstream narration is called a conspiracist, an extreme left or right wing antagonist, someone not to be trusted or simply dismissed as a looney tune. That is the herd mentality talking. While the West views China as a Communist country where the people are no different to those in 1984 and where Big Brother is watching over you, in the West, especially the UK, that thought control is more subtle and not so obvious. So, I am delighted to see that more and more people are beginning to see through the sham of the mainstream media. At least, that is a start. Oh but I do listen to a cross section of views. And I do have freedom of thought, (not that that necessarily makes me right.) With respect, you don't know how I think, or how my mind works; I've been told more than once that my herd instinct is extremely under-developed!  |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Apr 27, 2020 14:21:55 GMT
Fb, Certainly, your strong views re: The 100 has a certain raucous "mooing" about it. |
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Post by gmdf on Apr 27, 2020 16:59:23 GMT
But, my dear chap, I could say exactly the same about you. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias gmdf, Graphs and research findings are often used to confirm your present beliefs. The pharmaceutical industry, for example, being a good example where trials and research are often biased towards the positive findings they want. Having spent time researching both the tranquilliser and anti-depressive prescriptive drugs catastrophes, I hold some experience. The graph I quoted comes from the ONS - if you don't trust them, I'm afraid you are away with the fairies. |
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Post by flashblade on Apr 27, 2020 20:53:34 GMT
Interesting article considers the financial implications of losing the whole of this season. "Counties are facing an £85m loss of revenue if "the very real possibility" of no cricket this summer becomes a reality, according to a new report." www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/52442801This could prompt a radical reappraisal of the way that county cricket is financed, and could prove 'unsettling' for some of the smaller counties. |
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Post by coverpoint on Apr 28, 2020 7:35:34 GMT
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Post by flashblade on Apr 28, 2020 8:06:51 GMT
I admire his optimism, and I hope it turns out to be justified. |
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