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Post by leedsgull on Sept 20, 2014 10:56:31 GMT
I do not understand how Leicestershire have won all three second eleven competitions this season yet are abysmal at first team level. What does this say about second team cricket? What does it say about the selection of Leicester's first team? Unsuccessful players have been consistently picked for the first team when those in the seconds have logically been more confident as they experience a winning environment.
Clearly Leicester can produce winning cricketers at one level so perhaps there future is not as bleak as most seem to think.
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Post by coverpoint on Sept 20, 2014 16:04:57 GMT
The problem Leicestershire have is how are they supposed to improve when everyone keeps stealing their best players? Buck, Cobb and Thakor already gone Smith and Eckersley likely to follow. Replacements need to be found which will be easier said than done.
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Post by fraudster on Sept 20, 2014 17:10:30 GMT
They're a feeder club, they need to change that. It is a curious situation with that seconds stuff. I'd promote the lot of 'em, just keeping your best four or five first teamers from this year, if they haven't already buggered off. Not many teams could do that, too risky, but what do Leics have to lose? Get 'em all in the squad - cheap too.
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Post by jonboy on Sept 21, 2014 22:36:24 GMT
They probably have 24 players of similar ability, not quite good enough to make an impact in the First Class game, but good enough to star for the seconds. Leicester Seconds also resemble the Unicorns, in that they are often assembled from other counties cast offs.
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 22, 2014 10:22:35 GMT
They probably have 24 players of similar ability, not quite good enough to make an impact in the First Class game, but good enough to star for the seconds. Leicester Seconds also resemble the Unicorns, in that they are often assembled from other counties cast offs. That sounds a little dismissive, and contrasts with the comments of the Coach, Lloyd Tennant, talking about the final match for the Treble this year, versus Essex: "Seven of the twelve named players for the match came through Leicestershire’s flourishing Academy. Lots of players have made telling contributions this year, and with this side having an average age of 23, there is every reason for members and supporters to be optimistic about the future." Tennant hails super SecondsIt is only too likely that Leicester are being forced by economics as a feeder side for other, wealthier counties nearby. The question is, whether this is a cyclical thing that will run its course and they can gradually recover their former status in another few years, or whether the pressures are now too great, and that once a side has slumped to that level, and is powerless to prevent the siphoning off of its locally-developed talent, it will not recover. There could be the germ of a second-tier status here for counties like Leicester and Derbyshire,notwithstanding the latter's new ground redevelopment. |
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Post by jimbon on Sept 22, 2014 11:42:59 GMT
When they won the T20 second eleven final at Arundel on a Thursday a couple of months back the following night six of that winning side were in their first team T20 league match. I thought at the time they won it because they had "stiffened" the side with first teamers but that can not be the case throughout the season in all three comps.
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Post by leedsgull on Oct 4, 2014 9:50:23 GMT
Will the last player to leave please turn off the lights.
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Post by coverpoint on Oct 4, 2014 9:54:46 GMT
If Leicestershire keep losing their best players how are things ever going to improve? They have already lost Buck, Cobb, Smith and Thakor with Eckersley set to follow. That is five first team players to replace in one go which is an impossible task.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 21:26:41 GMT
... a county in such desperate straits that when their chairman was asked at a showdown members meeting tonight if the club was about to go out of business, the only reply he could give was that the ECB has given a commitment that it would bail them out. The direct quote was : "The ECB has confirmed that there will be the same number of counties until at least 2019."
From the same stormy meeting, in a welcome move towards a transparency that other counties might care to emulate (even if it was only promised to head off a palace revolution), the club's hierarchy gave a commitment that in future they will publish minutes of board/committee meetings.
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 16, 2014 6:15:00 GMT
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Oct 16, 2014 9:47:31 GMT
bm,
The direct quote was : "The ECB has confirmed that there will be the same number of counties until at least 2019."
In any other commercial enterprise Leicestershire would go into administration and the county gates be firmly
shut for good. But not when the ECB are determined to keep 18 counties at any cost - and not when you have
a unique business model like county cricket.
But there is a silver lining to this ECB intransigence. While they have an opportunity to lower the number of counties
- perhaps, to 16 as some have advocated - it is hard to imagine but Sussex CCC were in a similar position to
Leicestershire back in the 1990s. And then the infamous Members revolt occurred at the 'Grand Hotel' in 1997.
The Club have not looked back since.
Agreed, the Spen Cama £12m legacy had a large supportive role in the matter. So, come on Leicestershire Members,
stand up and be counted. Find a Derbyshire equivalent to Chris Grant as your financier and off you go.
You have nothing to lose.
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Post by viewfromtheboundary on Oct 16, 2014 12:13:58 GMT
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 16, 2014 13:06:13 GMT
Interesting. "Apparently he is signing initially for 20/20 with a view to signing a complete contract
I have had this info from a very reliable source from people I know in Leicester "
Doesn't conflict with the cricinfo and other stories that they want him for all 3 formats. |
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Post by viewfromtheboundary on Oct 16, 2014 13:10:52 GMT
I suppose it just depends on whether they can get him as a non overseas player since they already have Clint McKay
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 16, 2014 13:33:26 GMT
I suppose it just depends on whether they can get him as a non overseas player since they already have Clint McKay He has a UK passport, therefore he is not an overseas player. |
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