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Post by flashblade on Oct 1, 2020 18:35:30 GMT
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Post by trolleybuss on Oct 1, 2020 19:02:07 GMT
Not that we needed any excuse to get rid of a slow 38 year old journeyman but another one should bite the dust after dizzy Wells Finch Evans and hopefully Greenfield. This could be a real winter blood bath which is badly needed.
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Post by joe on Oct 2, 2020 8:40:56 GMT
Bad enough to finish the season with a drubbing by Lancs but now have to contend with a cheat amongst the ranks. Can this season get any worse?
Root and branch clear-out needed.
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Post by kevininnessupersub on Oct 2, 2020 8:42:22 GMT
Was common knowledge. Incident happened in the Middx BWT game. He used the hand sanitizer on the ball. Reason he missed some of the following BWT matches, once he was charged. He was a 100% Gillespie man, now of course Dizzy has fled the country whilst the club is having to fight its own charges.
Did Ben Brown, as capt , know what was happening ?
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Oct 2, 2020 19:05:57 GMT
So you want to pin this on Gillespie as if he knew what was going on, but you want to question if the captain knew?🤷♂️
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Post by devonexile on Oct 2, 2020 19:43:58 GMT
This is extremely disappointing. There is no excuse for what Claydon did, putting aside the fact he is vastly experienced and should know better (I believe I heard Ben Brown state on one of the T20 commentaries he had even taken his Umpiring qualification, if true that just makes it worse, if that is possible!!). It is blatant cheating and there is no place for it in the game or more importantly within Sussex CCC.
If the reports are correct, Sussex must have known of his guilt ahead of the hearing by virtue of the six game ban they imposed. Did they hope that would pre-empt any greater punishment?
I am not sure of the legal position, but the correct course of action if possible would have been to have ripped up his contract and shown him the door. Am I correct he only signed for one year? Either way, he should not be allowed to represent the County again.
I know my view may sound harsh, but as previously stated it is blatant cheating and inexcusable.
As if it wasn't bad enough, the Club are now being charged. Given his admission, no doubt the Club will also be sanctioned. Fine or worse still, is a points deduction a possibility?
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Post by trolleybuss on Oct 2, 2020 20:00:48 GMT
Totally agree. He has hardly set the world on fire and won't be missed. Not exactly one for the future either at 38 next month.
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Post by kevininnessupersub on Oct 2, 2020 20:09:49 GMT
I find it hard to believe that when Claydon was ball tampering, no one else was aware what was going on . Therefore you have to ask what Gillespie and Brown knew or saw .
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Post by liquidskin on Oct 3, 2020 8:37:12 GMT
Great. More shame brought on the club. It seems Sussex have tried to cover this up, which is as despicable as what this cheat Claydon has done. Especially as we have recent history with this sort of thing. Is this the real reason Gillespie has left? I agree with Kev, this isn't the sort of thing that can be done without pretty much full awareness. Massive questions to answer for Brown and the horrendous Gillespie. This can't be a one man thing, no way.
Horrendous.
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Post by liquidskin on Oct 3, 2020 8:39:40 GMT
So you want to pin this on Gillespie as if he knew what was going on, but you want to question if the captain knew?🤷♂️ What's wrong with that? They certainly both have questions to answer.
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Post by kevininnessupersub on Oct 4, 2020 8:55:45 GMT
Gillespie had already resigned before this incident. Perhaps ball tampering is in the Australian blood !? Also the ECB , could embarrass Gillespie and Cricket Australia and find him guilty or that he knew what was going on. Gillespie wants one job, to take over from Langer and a guilty verdict or a negative report will not help his chances.
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Post by liquidskin on Oct 4, 2020 9:42:36 GMT
I see it was the game after he announced he was leaving. In pretty much a dead rubber and a novelty competition. Disgraceful. I'm surprised there isn't much more uproar about this. Sussex have clearly tried to hide it, as they do most things.
Claydon should not still be at the club and Brown & Gillespie should be facing some serious questions. It wasn't just Bankcroft who was charged for the Aussies. It's not a one man show.
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Oct 5, 2020 9:26:28 GMT
Great. More shame brought on the club. It seems Sussex have tried to cover this up, which is as despicable as what this cheat Claydon has done. Especially as we have recent history with this sort of thing. Is this the real reason Gillespie has left? I agree with Kev, this isn't the sort of thing that can be done without pretty much full awareness. Massive questions to answer for Brown and the horrendous Gillespie. This can't be a one man thing, no way. Horrendous. Horrendous Gillespie?? Jeez, some people are just going a bit too far now.
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Oct 5, 2020 9:27:51 GMT
So you want to pin this on Gillespie as if he knew what was going on, but you want to question if the captain knew?🤷♂️ What's wrong with that? They certainly both have questions to answer. I agree, but the inference was that Gillespie MUST be involved because Claydon was one of his men...as if they cooked it up together, what - because they’re both Australian?🤷♂️🙄
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Oct 5, 2020 9:30:11 GMT
Don’t recall there being this uproar when Mohammad Akram was found guilty of ball tampering in 2004, no slaughtering of Moores or Adams over it either.
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