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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 8:16:45 GMT
And a question for you Randall - can you fix my Commodore 64? Errr, have you tried switching it off & back on again?
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 12, 2021 8:18:51 GMT
randall, I am not a cyber expert like you, so I cannot comment. I am sure the far left-wing journalist, Maarten Schenk, who writes this hit-job piece, isn’t either. We are back to the tea leaves at the bottom of a cup. Stare into them and you can see whatever you want to see. If you are a far-left wing journalist, all you are gonna see is blurry images of fake data. I am sure those from the U.S Intelligence Cybercrime Unit who recorded all this information in realtime are having a good giggle right now. All I know is that a cyber expert at the symposium was able to hack into an electronic voting machine in five minutes and change the data...by just using a smart phone. And now we have this piece of additional evidence. www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/huge-update-codemonkeyz-files-released-lindell-cyber-symposium-not-stolen-reported-earlier-findings-game-changer/No surprise then that Dominion are suing Mike Lindell, Sydney Powell and Rudy Giuliani for $1.6 billion with rumours they are next after Newsmax and other media outlets. The company’s desperation is palpable and this lawsuit plays well into those bringing out the truth. Prove to the judge and jury that the Dominion machines can be easily hacked and the data changed and the company is toast. They are staring at very long prison sentences. All three of the primary electronic voting machines used in the 2020 Election owned and run by companies ES&S, Smartmatic and Dominion, knew exactly what was going on. They were given huge bribes by China to collude in this massive fraud. Why don’t the alleged 80 million+ people who actually voted for Trump come together and sue Dominion for $2 trillion, no gone on, let’s make that $3 trillion, for callously stealing a democratic vote.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 10:15:53 GMT
randall, I am not a cyber expert like you, so I cannot comment. I am sure the far left-wing journalist, Maarten Schenk, who writes this hit-job piece, isn’t either. Labelling everyone that doesn't share the same viewpoint as you as a far left communist, are you sure you're a centrist like you claim to be? This is your go to rebuttal of anybody and everything you disagree with, straight from the right wing nutter playbook. If you actually looked at the website with this article on you might notice it debunks an equal amount of left wing fake news as it does right wing fake news & pointing out obvious flaws in things people put out isn't a hit job. You don't need to be a cyber expert either to determine if two columns of text data are identical - eyes are perfectly good enough for that task. That being said the writer of the article is pretty clued up on technology, again something that would be apparent if you bothered to look the writer up. For someone who claims to be a former journalist you're not very big on research, and no, unquestioningly lapping up biased articles with more holes than a block of Swiss cheese isn't research. If you can't read the text here or make out that both columns here are identical I think a trip to Specsavers might be in order. This image comes directly from Lindell's website so good on you admitting it's fake data - maybe there is hope for you yet. Where is the report from the this Cybercrime Unit on their findings? Just because you read on some fake news website that's where it came from it doesn't make it true. It's highly likely Lindell's data came from a con man who fleeced him a large amount of money for it (a guy who conveniently happened to suffer a stroke a day before the conference and was unable to attend to be questioned about it). I could link you the analysis on the data but since you'll just say it was carried out by communists without even reading it I can't be bothered. Where is this documented? They've probably got hold of an old obsolete machine that has security flaws that are fixed in more up to date technology. Also these people were in the same room as the machines but the allegations are that they were remotely hacked from China. I maybe wrong but I don't think the technology is quite there yet to connect to something in the US from China over wifi. Big company sues people who have spread lies and misinformation about them, well hold the front page. I have no doubt the goal posts will shift to focus on these trials once this farcial event finishes and Lindell's bombshell evidence fails to materialise and cause Biden & Harris to resign on the spot (that's supposed to happen tomorrow btw - the clock is ticking). How many times does it take before people realise the wool is being pulled over their eyes? Of course, nobody putting this stuff out actually believes it by now (except for nutters like Lindell) - it's all about keeping Trump's name on the lips of his cult members until he announces his election bid in 2022. I think you mean 74 million people, 80+ million people are the ones who voted for Biden. Do try and keep up. I'd love to see this lawsuit though - I wonder if it will be laughed out of court like the all the other have been to date. Answers on a postcard please.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 13, 2021 10:57:08 GMT
Crikey, the last post touched a nerve with your lone ranger thread responses. While we both support Sussex, it is sad we are chalk and cheese when it comes to the U.S Election subject. It feels like both of us are hitting a brick wall when discussing our opposing views. You are not going to change and I am not going to change. The difference is I attempt to employ evidence to support my view. You rarely do. Just briefly. I use the term far left because if you are even one millimetre to the right of centre, the MSM left-wing media call you far right and conspiracists. So, if someone is one millimetre to the left then I refer to them as far left and extremists to offer a counterbalance. BTW, I say over 80 million voted for Trump because of the evidence from the U.S Intelligence Cybercrime Unit, led by three star General Paul Nakasone, who initiated and led “a sting operation” on what the Unit already knew would be a Cybercrime attack by China supported by the Democratic Party on the U.S 2020 Election. Every single genuine ballot had a special watermark placed into it, so they knew how many ballots were fraudulent and how many were genuine. So when combined with the “genuine electronic machine data”, Trump gained over 80 million votes. So, please keep up and show just a little respect by reading what I have written. The information is in my first post of this thread. If you truly believe that Basement Biden won over 80 million votes, a man who could barely fill a parking lot when he actually did carry out a rally, compared to Trump who attracted 50,000+ people to a majority of each of his rallies, then you need to query the facts. If the democrats had put up a chimpanzee as their presidential candidate, the chimp would have won in November. Biden’s victory was set in stone months before the election took place. Meanwhile, we live in very dangerous times where social media, in particular, has created a highly divisive society. You are either a Remoaner or a Brexiteer; far left or far right; woke or unwoke; for covid masks or not for masks; vax or anti-vax; lockdown or freedom; climate change is humanity’s fault or climate change is a natural cycle seen throughout history. In the U.S, Trump supporters view the democrats as the devil incarnate and democrats view Trump supporters as the devil incarnate. The lunacy around the world is because rationale and reason, the bedrock of a healthy society, has disappeared. This is a post by Leonydus Johnson which sums up the situation. The MSM are truly the enemy of the people and 58% of Americans agree. I am a moderate, a centrist, you may disagree, and why I oppose the MSM brainwashing as they are mostly left or extreme left in their thinking. Bizarrely, they are referred to as liberal. I see nothing liberal, for example, in cancel culture. That isn’t liberalism that is fascism. It reminds me of the Nazi book-burning back in the early 1930s. I do respect your views because I believe in free speech, but find them alien to my thinking. So, in future, I will desist from responding to your posts. It must be very boring for those reading them, like watching two tennis players hitting a ball over a net to each other and nothing ever changes. It just relentlessly goes on and on and on and… Meanwhile, more evidence on how electronic voting machines can be hacked. www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/breaking-exclusive-whistleblower-steps-forward-provides-proof-detroit-center-election-machines-connected-online-photo/
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Post by flashblade on Aug 13, 2021 11:45:06 GMT
Crikey, the last post touched a nerve with your lone ranger thread responses. While we both support Sussex, it is sad we are chalk and cheese when it comes to the U.S Election subject. It feels like both of us are hitting a brick wall when discussing our opposing views. You are not going to change and I am not going to change. The difference is I attempt to employ evidence to support my view. You don't. Just briefly. I use the term far left because if you are even one millimetre to the right of centre, the MSM left-wing media call you far right and conspiracists. So, if someone is one millimetre to the left then I refer to them as far left and extremists to offer a counterbalance. BTW, I say over 80 million voted for Trump because of the evidence from the U.S Intelligence Cybercrime Unit, led by three star General Paul Nakasone, who initiated and led “a sting operation” on what the Unit already knew would be a Cybercrime attack by China supported by the Democratic Party on the U.S 2020 Election. Every single genuine ballot had a special watermark placed into it, so they knew how many ballots were fraudulent and how many were genuine. So when combined with the “genuine electronic machine data”, Trump gained over 80 million votes. So, please keep up and show just a little respect by reading what I have written. The information is in my first post of this thread. If you truly believe that Basement Biden won over 80 million votes, a man who could barely fill a parking lot when he actually did carry out a rally, compared to Trump who attracted 50,000+ people to a majority of each of his rallies, then you need to query the facts. If the democrats had put up a chimpanzee as their presidential candidate, the chimp would have won in November. Biden’s victory was set in stone months before the election took place. Meanwhile, we live in very dangerous times where social media, in particular, has created a highly divisive society. You are either a Remoaner or a Brexiteer; far left or far right; woke or unwoke; for covid masks or not for masks; vax or anti-vax; lockdown or freedom; climate change is humanity’s fault or climate change is a natural cycle seen throughout history. In the U.S, Trump supporters view the democrats as the devil incarnate and democrats view Trump supporters as the devil incarnate. The lunacy around the world is because rationale and reason, the bedrock of a healthy society, has disappeared. This is a post by Leonydus Johnson which sums up the situation. The MSM are truly the enemy of the people and 58% of Americans agree. I am a moderate, a centrist, you may disagree, and why I oppose the MSM brainwashing as they are mostly left or extreme left in their thinking. Bizarrely, they are referred to as liberal. I see nothing liberal, for example, in cancel culture. That isn’t liberalism that is fascism. It reminds one of the Nazi book-burning back in the early 1930s. I do respect your views because I believe in free speech, but find them alien to my thinking. So, in future, I will desist from responding to your posts. It must be very boring for those reading them, like watching two tennis players hitting a ball over a net to each other and nothing ever changes. It just relentlessly goes on and on and on and… Meanwhile, more evidence on how electronic voting machines can be hacked. www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/breaking-exclusive-whistleblower-steps-forward-provides-proof-detroit-center-election-machines-connected-online-photo/ "I use the term far left because if you are even one millimetre to the right of centre, the MSM left-wing media call you far right and conspiracists. So, if someone is one millimetre to the left then I refer to them as far left and extremists to offer a counterbalance." You adopt an extremist binary view here, but later on call yourself a moderate! "I am a moderate, a centrist," Whatever happened to nuance and reason? You can't fight extremism with extremism. You say " you are not going to change and I am not going to change" - this is the stance of an extremist who cannot contemplate that he might possibly be wrong or that he might learn from others. BTW, I'm enjoying the tennis match you are playing with Randall, though I've noticed he tends to return your volleys, whereas you seem reluctant to address the points that he makes!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 12:04:21 GMT
BTW, I say over 80 million voted for Trump because of the evidence from the U.S Intelligence Cybercrime Unit, led by three star General Paul Nakasone, who initiated and led “a sting operation” on what the Unit already knew would be a Cybercrime attack by China supported by the Democratic Party on the U.S 2020 Election. I'll ask again, where is this officially documented? So how come every audit carried out since then the paper ballot counts match up with the machine counted tallies bar a few very minor inconsistences which wouldn't alter the result in any way? Some counties conducted up to three recounts - why during an audit would you let people count votes than be easily dismissed as fake by checking this watermark - unless of course this watermark doesn't actually exist? That shows a machine (could be anything given that you can see the network connections and nothing else - why is the whole screen not shown?) with some open wireless connections, which could just be to a local network. But let's say for the sake of argument this is a genuine machine used in the 2020 elections & they are internet connections - please explain how can someone hack a machine in the US over wifi from China. Lindell's IP address data proved they were remotely hacked from China right? Also can you explain why all the experts at the Cyber Symposium never got their hands on the 37TB of packet data supposedly recorded in real time by the U.S Intelligence Cybercrime Unit and why Lindell's own guy admitted the data was garbage? Sounds like a massive cop out to me, pretty sure that anyone reading this forum is capable of simply not opening this thread if it's boring to them. Maybe it's for the best though since you're just embarrassing yourself now Anyway we'll know for sure tomorrow whether this Cyber Symposium was a scam or not since today is the day that Biden & Harris will resign due to the evidence presented at it.
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Post by gmdf on Aug 13, 2021 12:28:15 GMT
Wasn't it today that Trump and his supporters say that he will replace Biden? Still waiting...😉
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 12:31:06 GMT
Wasn't it today that Trump and his supporters say that he will replace Biden? Still waiting...😉 It's only 8:30 AM in Washington at the moment, let him finish off his traditional breakfast of 3 McDonalds happy meals before triumphantly returning to the White House
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 13, 2021 12:31:23 GMT
Fb, You can't fight extremism with extremism. Of course you do. When all rationale and reason has evaporated as we see in the world now, that is all that's left. If you try moderation and balance, extremism walks all over you. For once you create division amongst the populace, balanced and moderate argument is gone. And this creates chaos. When you aim to change a political system like China is attempting to transform America from a Capitalist society to a Marxist one, that is the first thing you do - create division amongst the people and amongst the family. For, you have to break down the society's structure to eventually destroy it, where a new society is then created. In this case, Marxism. Look back through history. What is happening now is the classic Marxist, Communist, Fascist playbook from the past going on in America. To take down a country you use paid agent provocateurs, take over and control the MSM, rig elections, bribe officials to do your bidding, have Antifa and BLM creating billions of dollars worth of destruction and most importantly, find a group for the populace to vent their vitriol on. The Nazis used the jews. Today, it's Trump supporters, where patriotism is the new evil. With Covid-19, it is those who won't be vaccinated. Treat them like a baseless minority, don't allow them into restaurants, theatres, cinemas, planes etc.. unless you carry a vax ID. For goodness sake, how are they going to affect other people who have been already vaccinated? It is insanity at work and a repeat of the Nazis and jews in the 1930s. A similar playbook is going on now. This is the early stages of 21st century Marxism/fascism at work. China has openly stated, its goal is to take over America by 2035. As to those winning volleys you should visit Specsavers as randall suggests.
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Post by gmdf on Aug 13, 2021 13:10:45 GMT
Likening the killing of 6 million Jews by the Nazis during the Holocaust to the suggestion that Trump supporting anti-vaxxers will be excluded from visiting theatres, cinemas etc???
I'm sorry, but you have got a screw loose.
And I doubt I am the only person who finds that sort of comparison deeply objectionable (and evidence of deep anti-Semitism).
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Post by flashblade on Aug 13, 2021 13:13:51 GMT
Fb, You can't fight extremism with extremism. Of course you do. When all rationale and reason has evaporated as we see in the world now, that is all that's left. If you try moderation and balance, extremism walks all over you. For once you create division amongst the populace, balanced and moderate argument is gone. And this creates chaos. When you aim to change a political system like China is attempting to transform America from a Capitalist society to a Marxist one, that is the first thing you do - create division amongst the people and amongst the family. For, you have to break down the society's structure to eventually destroy it, where a new society is then created. In this case, Marxism. Look back through history. What is happening now is the classic Marxist, Communist, Fascist playbook from the past going on in America. To take down a country you use paid agent provocateurs, take over and control the MSM, rig elections, bribe officials to do your bidding, have Antifa and BLM creating billions of dollars worth of destruction and most importantly, find a group for the populace to vent their vitriol on. The Nazis used the jews. Today, it's Trump supporters, where patriotism is the new evil. With Covid-19, it is those who won't be vaccinated. Treat them like a baseless minority, don't allow them into restaurants, theatres, cinemas, planes etc.. unless you carry a vax ID. For goodness sake, how are they going to affect other people who have been already vaccinated? It is insanity at work and a repeat of the Nazis and jews in the 1930s. A similar playbook is going on now. This is the early stages of 21st century Marxism/fascism at work. China has openly stated, its goal is to take over America by 2035. As to those winning volleys you should visit Specsavers as randall suggests. To play a tennis match you have to return all the volleys. Otherwise, folks might think you haven't got a response! I don't recall Randall suggested I visit Specsavers. If you replace your specs, you'll find that his suggestion was aimed at you!
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 13, 2021 14:19:56 GMT
gmdf,
"... deeply objectionable (and evidence of deep anti-Semitism).
Unbelievable, so I am deeply anti-semitic when my family background is Jewish. My Great Grandfather was called Rudolph Steinmann. He came over to Liverpool from Prussia in the 1800s and went on to set up a highly successful shipping agency.
Disgraceful anti-semitism from you. I would like an apology please.
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Post by gmdf on Aug 13, 2021 14:44:45 GMT
gmdf, "... deeply objectionable (and evidence of deep anti-Semitism).Unbelievable, so I am deeply anti-semitic when my family background is Jewish. My Great Grandfather was called Rudolph Steinmann. He came over to Liverpool from Prussia in the 1800s and went on to set up a highly successful shipping agency. Disgraceful anti-semitism from you. I would like an apology please. Actually no, YOU owe us an apology for the totally crass comparison of the Holocaust to the potential inconvenience those who CHOOSE not to get vaccinated MAY face in future. NB Steinmann is a German, but not necessarily a Jewish name. But even if your roots are (partially) Jewish that doesn't give you carte blanche to make such ludicrous and anti-Semitic comments.
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Post by A.S. on Aug 13, 2021 15:05:13 GMT
“Godwin's law, short for Godwin's law (or rule) of Nazi analogies, is an Internet adage asserting that as an online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Adolf Hitler becomes more likely”.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 15:10:40 GMT
Utterly deranged and completely in denial about it. I would have thought someone of Jewish heritage would be the last person to make such a crass comparison but apparently not. I have a friend who also went full Qanon nutter during the lockdown, I could put you in touch with him WC - you could set up a Hove branch of the Proud Boys together
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