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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 9, 2021 14:57:25 GMT
This will be fun. The Croatian players have stated, "They do not intend to take the knee ahead of Euro 2020 match against England on Sunday." Whereas Gareth Southgate has said the England team "will" take the knee ahead of all games, even in the face of booing from sections of their own support. Meanwhile, UEFA has said the Euro sides competing are not required to kneel. So, all the more reason for fans to boo the England Team as they kneel on Sunday. Judging from the Daily Mail list below, England will represent a minority of kneeling sides. Interesting that all the Eastern European teams are refusing to kneel. They see through the cynical BLM charade. Bring back Kick It Out. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9668523/Euro-2020-Croatia-NOT-knee-Wembley-ahead-opening-game-against-England-Sunday.html
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Post by joe on Jun 9, 2021 16:42:32 GMT
This will be fun. The Croatian players have stated, "They do not intend to take the knee ahead of Euro 2020 match against England on Sunday." Whereas Gareth Southgate has said the England team "will" take the knee ahead of all games, even in the face of booing from sections of their own support. Meanwhile, UEFA has said the Euro sides competing are not required to kneel. So, all the more reason for fans to boo the England Team as they kneel on Sunday. Judging from the Daily Mail list below, England will represent a minority of kneeling sides. Interesting that all the Eastern European teams are refusing to kneel. They see through the cynical BLM charade. Bring back Kick It Out. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9668523/Euro-2020-Croatia-NOT-knee-Wembley-ahead-opening-game-against-England-Sunday.html This has nothing whatsoever to do with Ollie Robinson. Wrong thread WC [ longstop: Moved to Off Topic area)
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Post by seawolf on Jun 9, 2021 20:06:08 GMT
This will be fun. The Croatian players have stated, "They do not intend to take the knee ahead of Euro 2020 match against England on Sunday." Whereas Gareth Southgate has said the England team "will" take the knee ahead of all games, even in the face of booing from sections of their own support. Meanwhile, UEFA has said the Euro sides competing are not required to kneel. So, all the more reason for fans to boo the England Team as they kneel on Sunday. Judging from the Daily Mail list below, England will represent a minority of kneeling sides. Interesting that all the Eastern European teams are refusing to kneel. They see through the cynical BLM charade. Bring back Kick It Out. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9668523/Euro-2020-Croatia-NOT-knee-Wembley-ahead-opening-game-against-England-Sunday.html Is this a serious reply Wicked Cricket , in 2021?
You seem to be learning nothing from what has been unfolding in the last couple of days.
Your views appear to be academically weak. Frankly your stating 'So, all the more reason for fans to boo the England Team as they kneel on Sunday. Judging from the Daily Mail ....., England will represent a minority of kneeling sides. Interesting that all the Eastern European teams are refusing to kneel', appears to be politically motivated and lacking in any serious evidence based argument. So What?
Democracy is intrinsically a choice, (Southgate's), whereas being required to do something, (in this context) it could be argued is in some ways autocratic. I respect your views, but in this case disagree.
Regardless of personal opinions, why would you revel in people booing anything or anyone? It's just sport FFS.
Firstly its off topic (imho)
Secondly, you are doing Ollie Robinson no favours with your argument.
Just saying
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 10, 2021 11:51:57 GMT
Thanks Mod, you saved me the trouble. I will respond to Seawolf later on when I have the time.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 10, 2021 15:08:28 GMT
seawolf,
Yes, it is a serious reply and not a cheeky wink.
Democracy is intrinsically a choice, (Southgate's), whereas being required to do something, (in this context) it could be argued is in some ways autocratic. I respect your views, but in this case disagree.
I agree we live in a democratic society, so if fans disagree with the England players kneeling, so they should be allowed to boo. It depends on your political stance on Black Lives Matter (BLM). Imho, kneeling by the England footballers is not about showing solidarity against racism. Kick It Out is and what an excellent organisation this is.
Instead, kneeling is showing subservience to BLM who are an extreme left-wing, anarchist organisation who wish to smash Capitalism and society's pillars that keep this financial system in place and seek anarchy to bring through their political cause. They have wilfully caused billions of dollars worth of destruction in America, want to defund the police, and cynically under the guise of racism, use this to manipulate the public's emotions creating division amongst the populace which is precisely what they are gunning for.
Listen to the football fans booing the Irish players below. Why not do what Ireland's opponents, Hungary, far more respectfully do and point to a 'stamp out racism badge' on their shirt sleeve?
I feel embarrassed for England when the players kneel. Whether Southgate is naive or simply deluded re: BLM, I am not clear. And now The United Kingdom teams, I would suggest, are becoming the butt of jokes and derision from a majority of the sides in the Euros who are refusing to kneel throughout the tournament. I don't have a racist bone in my body. I am all for stamping out the racist pox, but for goodness sake, find a better, less demeaning and humiliating way of doing it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2021 21:52:14 GMT
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Post by liquidskin on Jun 13, 2021 9:13:50 GMT
The usual left wing patronising comedy from Newsthump. There's two issues for me which I'm confident many people agree with. Firstly, the knee is a political gesture not only linked to Marxism but also to black power. They could not have chose a worse gesture to copy than that one. It doesn't matter how many times they say it's about equality only, change it. Stand up like a man for a start.
Secondly, there is no problem with racism in this country, and certainly not in sport. If the odd moron, out of millions who could, calling Rashford a nasty name on social media is what you call a big problem, especially these days, you're deluded. People are also sick of being told what to think. Being told you're racist if you don't support anti racism or homophobic if you don't support gays is highly irritating.
This is a free country, there are so many bigger issues than a bit of name calling. Like poor old Christian. Stand up and play the game you sorry b******s.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2021 13:37:41 GMT
If you're using the RWNJ definition of Marxism which appears to be "everything I disagree with" then maybe you could draw a line between the two. But actual Marxism - please do explain how taking the knee is a political gesture linked to it, I could do with a good laugh. You might also have a point with the black power links if they were doing a black power salute - how is taking the knee a black power gesture?
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 14, 2021 12:30:56 GMT
randall, NewsThump.com describes itself as "a left wing British news satire website that publishes spoof articles about current events." It is similar to other British news satire sites such as The Daily Mash and Spoof Magazine. So, the article you have highlighted is a spoof. Is that your complete intention? News today is primarily political. Mainstream journalists are political hacks being paid to follow either a left wing or right wing narrative. There is no centrism anymore. There are far more left wing than right wing hacks today as the "forces that control humanity" wish for a left wing narrative to carry out their New World Order or Globalist agenda. Anyone who disagrees with this agenda and is "media influential" is often called a conspiracist or "far right". The Globalist political template aimed for is China and its Communism or Marxism politics, depending on your viewpoint. Re: Taking the kneel, my humble advice is always look at both sides of the argument. If you only read the MSM, then you will be influenced to accept that taking the knee is about showing solidarity against racism rather than being sub-serviant to the Marxist movement, Black Lives Matter. To address this imbalance, here is another side to the argument. www.infowars.com/posts/orban-defends-hungarian-fans-who-booed-take-a-knee-labels-gesture-a-provocation/
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 14:08:29 GMT
randall, NewsThump.com describes itself as "a left wing British news satire website that publishes spoof articles about current events." It is similar to other British news satire sites such as The Daily Mash and Spoof Magazine. So, the article you have highlighted is a spoof. Is that your complete intention? Satire - "the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues." Bit too close to the bone for your liking? I tried to find an explanation of how BLM is a Marxist movement amongst all this wall of drivel but it escaped me. Explain it to me like I'm five. Infowars?
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 14, 2021 14:14:53 GMT
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Post by flashblade on Jun 14, 2021 18:41:57 GMT
Why do people label BLM as Marxist? Do they adopt a Marxist philosophy?
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 14, 2021 21:20:36 GMT
Yes. If you place into Google 'Black Lives Matter Marxism', it comes up with 40,100,000 results. As a typical example, Black Lives Matter co-founder, Patrisse Cullors, said in a video from 2015 that she and her fellow organisers are “trained Marxists”, making clear their movement’s ideological foundation. nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 23:33:26 GMT
Yes. If you place into Google 'Black Lives Matter Marxism', it comes up with 40,100,000 results. Well there we go, that's conclusive proof if ever I saw it. If you Google 'the earth is flat' you get 1,180,000,000 results
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 15, 2021 7:36:45 GMT
randall, Instead of offering some banal flippant aside, I would suggest you read some of the articles that appear via the search. You will find that a majority suggest that Black Lives Matter are a Marxist-influenced group.
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