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Post by coverpoint on Oct 30, 2021 15:10:26 GMT
Paul Downton has just said on BBC Radio Kent, that the club has received a draft fixture list for next season
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Post by flashblade on Oct 30, 2021 15:50:48 GMT
Paul Downton has just said on BBC Radio Kent, that the club has received a draft fixture list for next season It's only a draft. The clubs are free to negotiate tweaks with other counties in their division.
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Post by coverpoint on Oct 30, 2021 16:19:34 GMT
Paul Downton has just said on BBC Radio Kent, that the club has received a draft fixture list for next season It's only a draft. The clubs are free to negotiate tweaks with other counties in their division. They should be told this is the fixture list, like or lump it! If they want people to buy membership release the 2022 fixtures. It really is not really rocket science (Sussex and the other seventeen counties). Racing has already announced its fixture for 2022 which contains nearly 1,500 fixtures. They have had over a month to sort out the fixture list.
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Post by flashblade on Oct 30, 2021 17:38:41 GMT
It's only a draft. The clubs are free to negotiate tweaks with other counties in their division. They should be told this is the fixture list, like or lump it! If they want people to buy membership release the 2022 fixtures. It really is not really rocket science (Sussex and the other seventeen counties). Racing has already announced its fixture for 2022 which contains nearly 1,500 fixtures. They have had over a month to sort out the fixture list. Membership has been launched much earlier than usual this year (I wonder why?!). The ECB always release a draft list to the counties, who then have to get their respective ground calendars sorted out before finalising. If you want to wait for the final fixtures before deciding whether to buy your membership, that's not a problem. I don't see a comparison with racing - the Plumpton v Fontwell fixtures have never been a problem, AFAIK.
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Post by coverpoint on Oct 30, 2021 18:21:58 GMT
They should be told this is the fixture list, like or lump it! If they want people to buy membership release the 2022 fixtures. It really is not really rocket science (Sussex and the other seventeen counties). Racing has already announced its fixture for 2022 which contains nearly 1,500 fixtures. They have had over a month to sort out the fixture list. Membership has been launched much earlier than usual this year (I wonder why?!). The ECB always release a draft list to the counties, who then have to get their respective ground calendars sorted out before finalising. If you want to wait for the final fixtures before deciding whether to buy your membership, that's not a problem. I don't see a comparison with racing - the Plumpton v Fontwell fixtures have never been a problem, AFAIK. The point is Mike which you seem to completely miss is Sussex are missing a golden sales opportunity to sell memberships as Christmas presents. By releasing the fixtures so close to Christmas people may opt for something else as a Christmas present instead. If Sussex's marketing or commercial team cannot see then they should be sacked on the grounds of incompetence. If you treat members with contempt and disdain don't surprised if they don't renew!
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Post by flashblade on Oct 31, 2021 12:15:25 GMT
1. This is the ECB's usual timetable. Final fixtures always appear around the end of November, and SCCC would have known this.
2. SCCC have decided to offer memberships very early this year, for reasons which we all suspect. They knew the fixtures wouldn't be early, and that they couldn't use the fixtures as an initial marketing ploy.
3. Less seriously perhaps, who would want their Xmas spoiled by receiving an unsolicited SCCC membership?
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Oct 31, 2021 15:10:01 GMT
Yes it’s nothing new, or underhand or anything like that. Counties receive a draft list, so that they can plan things such as outground dates. They don’t receive one final draft in which the ECB tell them when they’re having their festivals.
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Post by coverpoint on Oct 31, 2021 18:31:02 GMT
Commercially inept as by the time they eventually get their finger out of their arse and release the fixtures people won't have any money (especially this year with rising inflation, rising energy prices, rising food prices, rising fuel prices and after next Thursday rising interest rates). They have had a month to sort out the fixture list. If they got together in a room they could sort it out in a day.
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Oct 31, 2021 20:59:26 GMT
Fixtures always come out in late November or early December, it’s nothing new. Also interested as to how the fixtures affect whether or not people take out membership.
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Post by flashblade on Oct 31, 2021 21:54:03 GMT
Fixtures always come out in late November or early December, it’s nothing new. Also interested as to how the fixtures affect whether or not people take out membership. Your latter point is an obvious question I forgot to ask!
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Post by joe on Nov 1, 2021 2:37:45 GMT
I’ve decided to hold off buying membership till I see what signings we make to show we’re serious about competing.
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Post by theleopard on Nov 4, 2021 12:58:41 GMT
Until maybe around the time when two divisions in competitions emerged (I think it was the one-day league which was first to be split into two in 1999) a draft list was made available to the public practically at the end of the season. Obviously it was easier then, as with no promotion and relegation the fixtures could be drafted even before the season's end.
I believe there was also a storm in a teacup that occurred when some supporters booked cricket trips/holidays for the next year, probably to an outground, based on the draft list, only to find when the official list came out that the game had been moved (possibly only discovering this some considerable time after, as this was pre the age of widespread instant information). I am not sure but I think there may have also been cases of supporters using the draft lists actually turning up to non-existent fixtures (the match in question had been moved). I think it may have been after these sort of cases that it was decided to stop making the draft lists public.
Also, while in olden days the fixture list was broadly the same from one season to the next, there has been such a vast number of alterations to the shape of the fixtures in recent years which I think also caused delayed publication to mid-December in more than one year since 2000.
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