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Post by therealab1 on Jan 5, 2022 9:46:56 GMT
Sorry, I'm a little confused. We've made a huge focus on developing youngsters in and around some experienced players. Van Zyl and Head sadly didnt perform last season, Salt and CJ didnt want to play red ball, we lost Jofra and Robbo to injuries and England as well. Rob Andrew has addressed this and identified that we need to sign more senior players and seeing Brown go was a huge blow but if he doesnt want to play for Sussex then I wouldnt want to contribute to his wages (only my opinion). I was then encouraged to see Rizwan signed to go alongside Head and Finn. I'd be surprised if 1 or 2 more werent added before the season starts. I cant help but think people want to see us fail so they can say they were right about the Coaches. I'll cheer them on from the stands in what i anticipate to be a successful season. Oh give over, that's exactly what they want members/supporters to think, just lap up their (non) reasons for haemorrhaging all our best and senior players and thinking we can be successful with 9 kids in the team. Finn has only played 2 first class games in 2 years, there'll be a reason why he was available. Surely even you can't still be defending them over the latest departure, whole thing was appallingly managed, and, we were twice told that Brown would be staying. But seemingly you'll defend them over anything. No, it's not about being right about the coaches, it's about the management of the club, though saying that, Salisbury's display at the last forum wasn't great, seemed to be in some dreamland about how we performed last season and was disparaging of our championship winning sides, so either you're completely misreading the situation, or you're just on the wind-up again. Successful? What would that constitute - 2 victories in championship cricket? They dont think playing 9 kids is the right way to go, Andrew has said that. Im not defending anyone over the Brown departure just saying that i wouldnt want to pay money to watch a player that doesnt want to play for Sussex. Why am I on the wind up because you disagree with me? It's totally fine we dont agree. I'll choose to be positive. If you cant get excited about signing Rizwan then the management team will never win. |
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Post by liquidskin on Jan 6, 2022 12:34:58 GMT
Are we gonna sign a three or what Gordy? What's Andrew been saying to you? Can you tell him that a very smart and handsome fella on a message board wants him to go get Vince, Ballance or Duckett? Or Bracewell, Gotta be able to twist Glos' arm.
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Post by therealab1 on Jan 6, 2022 12:39:24 GMT
Are we gonna sign a three or what Gordy? What's Andrew been saying to you? Can you tell him that a very smart and handsome fella on a message board wants him to go get Vince, Ballance or Duckett? Or Bracewell, Gotta be able to twist Glos' arm. Never spoke to the geezer Tommy, but in case i do, do you mean Bracey or Bracewell? If it is Bracey strange you want a keeper. |
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Post by lovelyboy on Jan 6, 2022 13:46:11 GMT
Oh give over, that's exactly what they want members/supporters to think, just lap up their (non) reasons for haemorrhaging all our best and senior players and thinking we can be successful with 9 kids in the team. Finn has only played 2 first class games in 2 years, there'll be a reason why he was available. Surely even you can't still be defending them over the latest departure, whole thing was appallingly managed, and, we were twice told that Brown would be staying. But seemingly you'll defend them over anything. No, it's not about being right about the coaches, it's about the management of the club, though saying that, Salisbury's display at the last forum wasn't great, seemed to be in some dreamland about how we performed last season and was disparaging of our championship winning sides, so either you're completely misreading the situation, or you're just on the wind-up again. Successful? What would that constitute - 2 victories in championship cricket? They dont think playing 9 kids is the right way to go, Andrew has said that. Im not defending anyone over the Brown departure just saying that i wouldnt want to pay money to watch a player that doesnt want to play for Sussex. Why am I on the wind up because you disagree with me? It's totally fine we dont agree. I'll choose to be positive. If you cant get excited about signing Rizwan then the management team will never win. The problem is AB is that Rizwan is an exciting signing but he’s just a replacement for Brown. So the ridiculous thing is we’ve actually just wasted an OS spot. Just to stand still Rizwan has to average 50 with the bat as that’s what we had with Brown last season |
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Post by liquidskin on Jan 6, 2022 15:19:06 GMT
Above is what I meant throughout my numerous posts and insults. Well said lover boy.
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Jan 6, 2022 16:46:22 GMT
Ditto. Great signing, but just uses an overseas spot on replacing Brown.
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Post by therealab1 on Jan 6, 2022 20:12:17 GMT
They dont think playing 9 kids is the right way to go, Andrew has said that. Im not defending anyone over the Brown departure just saying that i wouldnt want to pay money to watch a player that doesnt want to play for Sussex. Why am I on the wind up because you disagree with me? It's totally fine we dont agree. I'll choose to be positive. If you cant get excited about signing Rizwan then the management team will never win. The problem is AB is that Rizwan is an exciting signing but he’s just a replacement for Brown. So the ridiculous thing is we’ve actually just wasted an OS spot. Just to stand still Rizwan has to average 50 with the bat as that’s what we had with Brown last season We havent wasted it though, it was necessity. Brown wanted to leave so he was released. Rizwan is a world class player, and i would play him over Brown personally. With Carter as the future this short term deal makes a lot of sense |
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Post by lovelyboy on Jan 7, 2022 5:52:13 GMT
The problem is AB is that Rizwan is an exciting signing but he’s just a replacement for Brown. So the ridiculous thing is we’ve actually just wasted an OS spot. Just to stand still Rizwan has to average 50 with the bat as that’s what we had with Brown last season We havent wasted it though, it was necessity. Brown wanted to leave so he was released. Rizwan is a world class player, and i would play him over Brown personally. With Carter as the future this short term deal makes a lot of sense I agree Rizwan is a great player but I’d be amazed if he did as well as Brown did last season (and let’s wait and see how much we actually see of our overseas players next season). And why couldn’t we have had Brown and Rizwan? Ah yes the old poor management again And what happens next winter if Haines or Garton suddenly want to leave? Do we let them go as well? And how do we justify not letting them after we let Brown walk It’s a mess all of our own making yet again Our two most experienced domestic batsmen are Haines and Rawlins, that really is shocking planning and management to end up with that situation |
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Jan 7, 2022 9:41:27 GMT
The problem is AB is that Rizwan is an exciting signing but he’s just a replacement for Brown. So the ridiculous thing is we’ve actually just wasted an OS spot. Just to stand still Rizwan has to average 50 with the bat as that’s what we had with Brown last season We havent wasted it though, it was necessity. Brown wanted to leave so he was released. Rizwan is a world class player, and i would play him over Brown personally. With Carter as the future this short term deal makes a lot of sense No. Our two overseas players should have been batsmen to bat WITH Brown, Haines and Orr, not instead of one of them because we've totally mistreated him and twice said he's staying at the club. You must be the only person in the entire membership/support base that is just happily lapping Brown's departure up and making out it's all his doing, rather than being annoyed at the (mis)management of the club. |
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Post by therealab1 on Jan 7, 2022 13:58:13 GMT
We havent wasted it though, it was necessity. Brown wanted to leave so he was released. Rizwan is a world class player, and i would play him over Brown personally. With Carter as the future this short term deal makes a lot of sense No. Our two overseas players should have been batsmen to bat WITH Brown, Haines and Orr, not instead of one of them because we've totally mistreated him and twice said he's staying at the club. You must be the only person in the entire membership/support base that is just happily lapping Brown's departure up and making out it's all his doing, rather than being annoyed at the (mis)management of the club. You cant be afraid to sack a captain for fear he may leave the club. I dont think he has been mistreated and theres no evidence of this other than the Captaincy being stripped. He hasnt said anything. I dont disagree that we may have been better served with 2 o/s batters (not batsmen these days :-)) with Brown but that isnt the case. And no i'm not happy he's gone, i merely stated that if a player doesnt want to play for Sussex then i'd rather they went. Edited to add - I think he's mistreated the club by forcing his exit despite being contracted or do you over look his poor behaviour because it doesnt suit your narrative just to blame Management? |
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Post by lovelyboy on Jan 7, 2022 14:17:34 GMT
No. Our two overseas players should have been batsmen to bat WITH Brown, Haines and Orr, not instead of one of them because we've totally mistreated him and twice said he's staying at the club. You must be the only person in the entire membership/support base that is just happily lapping Brown's departure up and making out it's all his doing, rather than being annoyed at the (mis)management of the club. You cant be afraid to sack a captain for fear he may leave the club. I dont think he has been mistreated and theres no evidence of this other than the Captaincy being stripped. He hasnt said anything. I dont disagree that we may have been better served with 2 o/s batters (not batsmen these days :-)) with Brown but that isnt the case. And no i'm not happy he's gone, i merely stated that if a player doesnt want to play for Sussex then i'd rather they went. Edited to add - I think he's mistreated the club by forcing his exit despite being contracted or do you over look his poor behaviour because it doesnt suit your narrative just to blame Management? This is a good point AB, I do think Brown has got off very lightly from the fans as he’s basically gone on strike and refused to honour his contract which is disgraceful however mismanaged he was However I don’t think we should have released him, I’m sure he would have got over this the minute we said we would stop Paying him if he didn’t turn up and play Sets a very dangerous precedent to release unhappy players from their contracts |
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Post by liquidskin on Jan 9, 2022 12:10:36 GMT
This discussion is coming from two different time zones. I'm settling it, he was treated badly so he left. It's done. Although he hasn't found a club yet it seems, for some reason, so let's get Andrew, Greenfield and Gordy to apologise to him and reinstate him as skipper with a rise. And maybe some flowers. No gloves though, keeping and skipping don't mix.
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Jan 15, 2022 20:01:35 GMT
No. Our two overseas players should have been batsmen to bat WITH Brown, Haines and Orr, not instead of one of them because we've totally mistreated him and twice said he's staying at the club. You must be the only person in the entire membership/support base that is just happily lapping Brown's departure up and making out it's all his doing, rather than being annoyed at the (mis)management of the club. You cant be afraid to sack a captain for fear he may leave the club. I dont think he has been mistreated and theres no evidence of this other than the Captaincy being stripped. He hasnt said anything. I dont disagree that we may have been better served with 2 o/s batters (not batsmen these days :-)) with Brown but that isnt the case. And no i'm not happy he's gone, i merely stated that if a player doesnt want to play for Sussex then i'd rather they went. Edited to add - I think he's mistreated the club by forcing his exit despite being contracted or do you over look his poor behaviour because it doesnt suit your narrative just to blame Management? Well I’m sorry but you’re on your own there in trying to focus on Brown and making it out to be his wrongdoing. But then again, it does suit your own narrative to blindly defend the management all the time no matter how many players we lose and how abysmal our results have been. |
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Post by enoughisenough on Jan 16, 2022 17:46:47 GMT
I think pretty well all Sussex supporters would sympathise with Brown’s decision to leave after the way he was treated and the club’s inability to retain other senior players. It’s hardly an inspiring place to play your cricket, even with the recent recruitment. Let’s hope Adams can have an influence.
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Post by therealab1 on Jan 17, 2022 8:53:37 GMT
You cant be afraid to sack a captain for fear he may leave the club. I dont think he has been mistreated and theres no evidence of this other than the Captaincy being stripped. He hasnt said anything. I dont disagree that we may have been better served with 2 o/s batters (not batsmen these days :-)) with Brown but that isnt the case. And no i'm not happy he's gone, i merely stated that if a player doesnt want to play for Sussex then i'd rather they went. Edited to add - I think he's mistreated the club by forcing his exit despite being contracted or do you over look his poor behaviour because it doesnt suit your narrative just to blame Management? Well I’m sorry but you’re on your own there in trying to focus on Brown and making it out to be his wrongdoing. But then again, it does suit your own narrative to blindly defend the management all the time no matter how many players we lose and how abysmal our results have been. On the conterary i think the management could have handled the Brown situation so much better but the facts are he wanted to leave and asked to be released from his contract thus forcing his way out of the club. |
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