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Post by tiptoes on Jan 20, 2022 18:50:00 GMT
Churchill
Big Cyril
Prescott
Ken Clarke
AND ALTHOUGH HE WAS NEVER ELECTED, HE STOOD AS A CANDIDATE FOR THE REFERENDUM PARTY AND PERFORMED USELESSLY BUT THE PORTLY ROBIN MARLAR HAD HIS 91ST BIRTHDAY EARLIER THIS MONTH!!
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Post by tiptoes on Jan 23, 2022 15:06:33 GMT
Dennis Healy was pretty rotund and lived to 98, a figure almost as big as his massive ego. That bloke never hid his light under a bushel although it glowed pretty dim since his record as Chancellor was diabolical and his politics nearly always wrong. He lived in Alfriston, in a posh manor, not that he ever seemed to get out and do much for the E Sx community.
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Post by gmdf on Jan 24, 2022 8:28:34 GMT
Dennis Healy was pretty rotund and lived to 98, a figure almost as big as his massive ego. That bloke never hid his light under a bushel although it glowed pretty dim since his record as Chancellor was diabolical and his politics nearly always wrong. He lived in Alfriston, in a posh manor, not that he ever seemed to get out and do much for the E Sx community. Take a look at his war record before writing him off. |
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Post by kevininnessupersub on Jan 24, 2022 10:04:04 GMT
and the books he wrote on walks on the downs in E. Sussex.
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Post by tiptoes on Jan 24, 2022 12:33:27 GMT
I forgot to mention Fattersley, Roy Hatt', another veteran carrying excess pounds. He was on the right of the Labour Party when the Bennites were in the vanguard, like Healy. Hattersley was campaigning for Healy in the Deputy Leadership against Benn and came up with the catchy slogan "Denis bites your legs" adapted from the placard accorded to Norman Hunter, the uncompromising Leeds United footballer. Healy was impressed by the witty quip but admitted to never having known of its history nor knowing who Norman Hunter was, despite representing a Leeds constituency.
Maybe Healy was given undeserved political respect by media and opponents based on his war record.
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Post by gmdf on Jan 24, 2022 13:02:47 GMT
I forgot to mention Fattersley, Roy Hatt', another veteran carrying excess pounds. He was on the right of the Labour Party when the Bennites were in the vanguard, like Healy. Hattersley was campaigning for Healy in the Deputy Leadership against Benn and came up with the catchy slogan "Denis bites your legs" adapted from the placard accorded to Norman Hunter, the uncompromising Leeds United footballer. Healy was impressed by the witty quip but admitted to never having known of its history nor knowing who Norman Hunter was, despite representing a Leeds constituency. Maybe Healy was given undeserved political respect by media and opponents based on his war record. Whilst have any particular reason to defend Healy, if one looks at his career (even on Wikipedia), he was clearly a giant as compared to the Liz Truss, Dominic Raab or Gavin Williamsons of this present day. |
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Post by tiptoes on Jan 24, 2022 13:17:13 GMT
He was Defence Secretary in the first Wilson govt where apparently he didn't get on with American President LBJ. I would have thought they were cut from the same cloth. But then Ann Widdecombe and Michael Howard were hardly soulmates.
Healy's record as Chancellor was abysmal; massive personal taxation, IMF bailing us out with loan and strings attached, winter of discontent. And I'm not being anti Labour as Roy Jenkins was an effective Chancellor in an earlier era when he took over from the hapless Jim Callaghan. It was when Labour was in opposition in 80s and early 90s he seemed to make all the wrong calls, like counselling against the Gulf War after Iraq had invaded Kuwait, amongst others.
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Post by gmdf on Jan 24, 2022 13:45:15 GMT
He was Defence Secretary in the first Wilson govt where apparently he didn't get on with American President LBJ. I would have thought they were cut from the same cloth. But then Ann Widdecombe and Michael Howard were hardly soulmates. Healy's record as Chancellor was abysmal; massive personal taxation, IMF bailing us out with loan and strings attached, winter of discontent. And I'm not being anti Labour as Roy Jenkins was an effective Chancellor in an earlier era when he took over from the hapless Jim Callaghan. It was when Labour was in opposition in 80s and early 90s he seemed to make all the wrong calls, like counselling against the Gulf War after Iraq had invaded Kuwait, amongst others. High rate taxation on incomes? Sounds OK to me. Loans to bail us out in a time of worldwide economic crisis? Well, he's not the only Chancellor to do that. And the alternative (cuts in Government expenditure) hasn't worked so well since 2010, judging by (say) the number of food banks the UK has now. But I wasn't just commenting on Healy as Chancellor - he had a long and distinguished record in Parliament as well as a period as Defence secretary. He also had what one might term a life outside politics, esp. as a keen photographer. He's a man I'd like to have met, and perhaps shared a drink or meal with. I can't say that about many MPs or ministers in the last decade or so. |
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Post by liquidskin on Jan 26, 2022 22:01:12 GMT
High rate taxation sounds okay to you GM whatever? Yeah it does to most retired wealthy people. How about cutting state pensions to wealthy pensioners? Workers make the world go round, pensioners do the opposite. And the number of food banks? If they've increased it's because of workshy peasants, usually from Africa if you want facts on it, who have recently had their benefits cut.
Don't let your high horsie privileged liberalism get in way of reality on here old boy.
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Post by gmdf on Jan 29, 2022 10:29:44 GMT
High rate taxation sounds okay to you GM whatever? Yeah it does to most retired wealthy people. How about cutting state pensions to wealthy pensioners? Workers make the world go round, pensioners do the opposite. And the number of food banks? If they've increased it's because of workshy peasants, usually from Africa if you want facts on it, who have recently had their benefits cut. Don't let your high horsie privileged liberalism get in way of reality on here old boy. My pension amounts to less than 17K a year. Does that make me "wealthy"? Not sure it does, to be honest. Bet you live on more... And as for your comment about "workshy peasants, usually from Africa" - well your racism is fully exhibited now isn't it? |
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Post by liquidskin on Jan 30, 2022 20:15:47 GMT
No. Uncomfortable facts trump fashionable virtue signalling. Uncomfortable, researchable facts.
17k a year is a lot for someone with no mortgage to pay and with thousands of pounds building up in the bank. You don't need anything close to it. Give to BLM so the Marxist fraudsters can expand their extensive multi million pound property empire, like all the other white middle class morons do.
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Post by gmdf on Jan 31, 2022 8:40:42 GMT
No. Uncomfortable facts trump fashionable virtue signalling. Uncomfortable, researchable facts. 17k a year is a lot for someone with no mortgage to pay and with thousands of pounds building up in the bank. You don't need anything close to it. Give to BLM so the Marxist fraudsters can expand their extensive multi million pound property empire, like all the other white middle class morons do. 'Thousands of pounds building up in the bank'? Really. I wish. You are rather a sad individual, aren't you? Unresolved childhood issues I suspect. |
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Post by liquidskin on Jan 31, 2022 21:35:47 GMT
Nah, don't think so. It's just since I started following the news.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2022 21:37:00 GMT
Give to BLM so the Marxist fraudsters can expand their extensive multi million pound property empire, like all the other white middle class morons do. Are you a fan of Tommy Robinson fan dribblechin? You know, the guy who can list mortgage fraud on his extensive criminal record and owns a very large and expensive house paid for by grifting money from the hard of thinking. |
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Post by liquidskin on Feb 4, 2022 21:53:46 GMT
And this after an edit. Other than the jumbled gibberish this is the standard 'go to' of the virtue signaller. Clueless.
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