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Post by devonexile on Jun 10, 2022 22:22:03 GMT
Come on devon, you know it’s all part of a process that we’re all supposed to be supporting😂😂 Two and a half seasons in Ash, if we hadn't already had serious concerns then based on tonight's spectacle then I think we both know that ship has well and truly sailed. The dug out looked absolutely devastated and defeated tonight. Without action, we will continue to struggle, lose our better players to the more competive counties and continue to fail in both red and white ball Cricket. It's not all negative, there are some positives to have come out of it all. We have some very promising youngsters, we have a decent opening batting pair in the Championship for the first time in ages, an overseas who can actually score runs and early days but we look to have poached a decent signing from a rival county. But it is just papering over the cracks and we have some very real problems. The people running the Club can continue to bury their heads in the sand or start to address this shambles. How many seasons of lower table Championship finishes or failure to qualify beyond the T20 Group stage before something positive is done to make this County competitive? Because, whether people want to admit it that is what lies ahead unless we see some real change. Looking at those in charge in the dug out tonight, I don't see any real leadership or the necessary drive or know how to turn this debacle around. There is absolutely no defence of what we all witnessed tonight. |
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Jun 10, 2022 23:10:21 GMT
It’s alright DE, you don’t need to explain it to me. Everything you say sums it up perfectly. Does anyone care enough to do anything about it? Or is everyone waiting for someone else to do something about it. No internet or social media in 1997, so people had to act and do something. Sadly these days, people think they’re doing their bit by complaining on social media…but then nothing happens…as I said several times over the winter, I really hope people who aren’t happy didn’t decide to not renew their membership.
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Post by jimbon on Jun 11, 2022 2:43:18 GMT
But 'It wasn't our night tonight!'
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Post by joe on Jun 11, 2022 5:48:36 GMT
Radical changes needed from top to bottom.
Andrew and Greenfield out.
Bopara- past his best and there’s a reason he’s never been captain before.
Wright- sadly past his best too. Been a real servant to the club but his time is up.
Mills- too inconsistent with the ball and can’t bat, an expensive luxury.
Rawlins-a vacuous cavern where his brain should be, can’t read a game and I hate that he looks at his bat every time he’s out as if it’s the bats fault!
Ward- stealing a living. Should be nowhere near a first class game.
Fynn H-P- if he can’t bowl he shouldn’t be in the side. His batting is not suited to this format, gets in but can’t accelerate.
That’s half the team.
If you keep doing the same thing you’ll get the same result.
Jury’s out on Kirtley but he appears to be out of his depth.
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Post by enoughisenough on Jun 11, 2022 6:57:26 GMT
"The visitors bowled tremendously well to take victory at Hove", says the Sussex website's Latest News. Sergei Lavrov or Comical Ali would be proud of whoever writes this one-eyed rubbish. At least Ravi Bopara had the good grace to acknowledge that it was an appalling performance
by the Sussex team, half of whom are current or former international players. Surely time for Jon Filby, or any of Chris Adams/Tony Cottey/Ian Gould, to intervene.
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Post by mrsdoyle on Jun 11, 2022 7:16:12 GMT
Lenham was impeccable, the rest naughty boy nets tomorrow His bowling has not been so good this year just 1 wicket in 8 games is not a good return for a leggie in T20 no matter how young and he is not strong enough with the bat to warrant a place in the team, Beer must be a bit mffed. A lot of the others could do with his energy, grit and spirit though... I was referring to his tail end batting more in this game, spinners take years to mature, to expect him to be a match winning leg spinner in a T20 at 17 is ridiculous |
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 11, 2022 7:23:49 GMT
Radical changes needed from top to bottom. Andrew and Greenfield out. Bopara- past his best and there’s a reason he’s never been captain before. Wright- sadly past his best too. Been a real servant to the club but his time is up. Mills- too inconsistent with the ball and can’t bat, an expensive luxury. Rawlins-a vacuous cavern where his brain should be, can’t read a game and I hate that he looks at his bat every time he’s out as if it’s the bats fault! Ward- stealing a living. Should be nowhere near a first class game. Fynn H-P- if he can’t bowl he shouldn’t be in the side. His batting is not suited to this format, gets in but can’t accelerate. That’s half the team. If you keep doing the same thing you’ll get the same result. Jury’s out on Kirtley but he appears to be out of his depth. That was the worst collapse in 30 years of watching Sussex. The players need an Alex Ferguson style talking to! Andrew, Greenfield, Kirtley and Salisbury all need to go. Bopara, Wright and Mills are past their past and need to go at the end of the season along with Beer. Rawlins and Ward aren't good enough and should be released when their contract expires. Would we have lost had Clark and Haines had played instead of Ward and Carter? I think not. Why are they not playing? They are two of our best batsmen this season. Orr should also be playing once he recovers from Covid. I would drop Rawlins, Ward and Carter. |
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Post by mrsdoyle on Jun 11, 2022 7:27:02 GMT
But 'It wasn't our night tonight!' Kirtley didn’t really say that did he? If he did then we are doomed. |
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Post by joe on Jun 11, 2022 7:54:13 GMT
A painful watch
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Post by joe on Jun 11, 2022 7:57:18 GMT
"The visitors bowled tremendously well to take victory at Hove", says the Sussex website's Latest News. Sergei Lavrov or Comical Ali would be proud of whoever writes this one-eyed rubbish. At least Ravi Bopara had the good grace to acknowledge that it was an appalling performance by the Sussex team, half of whom are current or former international players. Surely time for Jon Filby, or any of Chris Adams/Tony Cottey/Ian Gould, to intervene. Adams and Prior making noises on Twitter. Let’s see if they put their money where their mouths are. |
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Post by sponge on Jun 11, 2022 8:14:32 GMT
"The visitors bowled tremendously well to take victory at Hove", says the Sussex website's Latest News. Sergei Lavrov or Comical Ali would be proud of whoever writes this one-eyed rubbish. At least Ravi Bopara had the good grace to acknowledge that it was an appalling performance by the Sussex team, half of whom are current or former international players. Surely time for Jon Filby, or any of Chris Adams/Tony Cottey/Ian Gould, to intervene. Adams and Prior making noises on Twitter. Let’s see if they put their money where their mouths are. It's really very easy to make noises on twitter. Adams doesn't need to do this. Be has a senior role in the Club and can influence professionally from there. As for Prior...... A lot of the players will be hurting. It's all about turning it round. |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 11, 2022 8:49:44 GMT
I have reached the end of my tether.
I really like Rob Andrew. He’s a decent bloke, but Rugby and Cricket does not divide into 2. I really like James Kirtley, but the Cheltenham & Gloucester Trophy Final and 5-27 does not divide into being a successful T20 coach.
Whether you are the CEO or Chairman of Sussex CCC, surely, you cannot bury your heads in the sand anymore? Respect and honour of a proud 150 year-old county club comes before stubbornness. Whatever the recent decisions, it ain’t working.
Let us forget the halcyon naughties for once. Let us look at the present. Kirtley, bless his soul, is not a Head coach. Andrew is still struggling to come to terms with cricket. Square holes within a circle doesn't go. Be honest with yourselves.
The question is this: Who has the courage to stand up and be counted? Whether it is Adams and Prior or someone else, Sussex CCC is not only humiliating itself, but destroying a past proud history.
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Post by donnyboy on Jun 11, 2022 9:53:48 GMT
As a Derbyshire fan I can fully sympathise with your feelings about this defeat. I watched a part of it following our own win against Worcs. I have witnessed some dark days at Derby but this defeat tonight beats anything I have ever seen. Dear god,you could have won the match by just kicking a few leg byes. I have a bit of a soft spot for Sussex and enjoy holidays in Brighton but even Derbyshire couldn,t have lost this match and believe me,i,ve seen some pretty horrendous defeats over the years. The incompetence of the batsmen was staggering and i doubt they could muster a brain cell between them. Alsop batted really well and if you can sign this guy full time,grab him with both hands. I,m looking forward to the CC2 match v Derbyshire later this month and will be down to see it.i doubt Sussex will be as generous against us as you were against Glous but I can only hope.
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Post by liquidskin on Jun 11, 2022 11:36:51 GMT
Radical changes needed from top to bottom. Andrew and Greenfield out. Bopara- past his best and there’s a reason he’s never been captain before. Wright- sadly past his best too. Been a real servant to the club but his time is up. Mills- too inconsistent with the ball and can’t bat, an expensive luxury. Rawlins-a vacuous cavern where his brain should be, can’t read a game and I hate that he looks at his bat every time he’s out as if it’s the bats fault! Ward- stealing a living. Should be nowhere near a first class game. Fynn H-P- if he can’t bowl he shouldn’t be in the side. His batting is not suited to this format, gets in but can’t accelerate. That’s half the team. If you keep doing the same thing you’ll get the same result. Jury’s out on Kirtley but he appears to be out of his depth. Have to agree with all of that. Although I suspect if H-P was at 7 and Lenham at 8 we'd have edged home. But if H-P ain't bowling he ain't playing. I think Rawlins' brain is in his bowling, he was excellent last night and bowled to a plan. We need to use him as a bowler and get him in down the order, especially with Khan in the side. Below Khan, 8 or 9. Bopara too is more than a part-timer in this form, JK can rely on Rawlins and Bopara as part of a six man attack, strengthening the lower order in the meantime. Been complaining about this middle/lower order hurting us all campaign so no surprises last night for me. I predicted it before and as it happened - Mills at 8? On what planet. And Ward bowling that filth when you have Bopara bowling nothing? He was lucky he didn't go for 30. I don't know what these coaches are seeing and I too think Ward doesn't look like a pro bat, let alone bowler. Would much rather us lose the two office wallows than the coaches if it was only one pair but these coaches really are making rods for their own backs with selections and orders. Baffling decisions that everyone sees, like Ward at 7, Ward bowling, Bopara opening, Alsop missing, H-P as a bat, quality openers in form on the sidelines, Rawlins at 4/5, Mills 8, McCoy 8 before that, numerous OS coming and going, the list goes on. Does not bode well for JK & Bopara. I don't know where the logic is in any of it. Everybody on here agrees don't they, we can't all be wrong. I would think Khan and Riz might be wondering why they aren't turning out for Surrey or Lancs but gratefully they're with us. Huge boost, especially Khan to the middle/lower order. |
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Post by allendf on Jun 11, 2022 11:46:38 GMT
The T20 games come thick and fast and Hove hosts Gloucestershire on Friday, June 10th. Start time 7pm. A rematch of two weeks ago when Sussex lost by 41 runs. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKO53075The weather is set fair. Their should be a good crowd. And this is a must win for Sussex after two defeats on the trot, if the club is to stay in the chase. No Wright or Garton again as the squad is the same as on Wednesday. Bopara as opener, surely not? What about a wild card like Ward or Alsop to join Seifert? FHP needs to buck up his run rate and Mills rediscover his bowling prowess. T20 is up and down. We know that. Yet, Sussex may require more luck than some to maintain a tournament challenge. |
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