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Post by devonexile on Jun 19, 2022 16:47:47 GMT
And that ladies and gents is the end of our chances of silverware this season. Seriously Joe, did anyone really believe there were chances in the first place? I would have settled and seen as progress given where we are and some of the players who left the club at the end of last season a mid-table finish in Division 2 of the Championship, just missing out on qualification from the T20 Group with a healthy number of wins and a good showing in the Royal London Cup. There is still a lot of cricket to play and not only will I carry on hoping and wishing that I am wrong, but I can't see the current set up producing any marked improvement between now and the end of the season. I still believe we have the nucleas of a good team, draw your own conclusions as to what needs to change. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 19, 2022 16:49:10 GMT
Five losses in a row with big name players like Wright, Bopara, Finn, Mills, Khan and Rizwan who are just names and have been unable to produce the performance to go with the hype. Would we do any worse with the youngsters?
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Post by sponge on Jun 19, 2022 16:58:01 GMT
Five losses in a row with big name players like Wright, Bopara, Finn, Mills, Khan and Rizwan who are just names and have been unable to produce the performance to go with the hype. Would we do any worse with the youngsters? I dread to think of the money we are paying these guys each game. This cannot continue. I don't think the youngsters would do any better; however they would be cheaper and here is the big plus; they would be getting great experience. It has to be a 3 year plan. Let's hope it can get sorted out. |
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Post by wiseman on Jun 19, 2022 17:03:47 GMT
Five losses in a row with big name players like Wright, Bopara, Finn, Mills, Khan and Rizwan who are just names and have been unable to produce the performance to go with the hype. Would we do any worse with the youngsters? The young players can't do any worse cover point I think the management is all wrong,the overseas players in this format is money wasted looking at khan's stats the don't rack up with his pedigree.rizwan a quality player but inconsistent.Wouldnt of bothered with o/s players and invested in a couple of fast English bowlers. |
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Post by herring on Jun 19, 2022 17:08:59 GMT
Am no fan of 20/20 but my main gripe is amount of money thrown at this competition with so many overseas players. Disgrace with this spending manage to lose 7 out of 10 games. Doesnt help to see Wells who was not even selected by us not only seeing Lancashire home with bat but bowling 4 overs for just 20 runs
Is our new chairman strong enough to make the changes needed
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 19, 2022 17:09:49 GMT
Five losses in a row with big name players like Wright, Bopara, Finn, Mills, Khan and Rizwan who are just names and have been unable to produce the performance to go with the hype. Would we do any worse with the youngsters? The young players can't do any worse cover point I think the management is all wrong, the overseas players in this format is money wasted looking at khan's stats the don't rack up with his pedigree. Rizwan a quality player but inconsistent. Wouldn't of bothered with o/s players and invested in a couple of fast English bowlers. Good fast English bowlers (who aren't injured) are a rare commodity. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 19, 2022 17:11:34 GMT
Am no fan of 20/20 but my main gripe is amount of money thrown at this competition with so many overseas players. Disgrace with this spending manage to lose 7 out of 10 games. Doesnt help to see Wells who was not even selected by us not only seeing Lancashire home with bat but bowling 4 overs for just 20 runs Is our new chairman strong enough to make the changes needed It's not just their salary but the flights and accommodation. We must have spent £300K on the five overseas players. What an absolute waste of money. A team with Khan, Rizwan, Wright, Bopara, Finn and Mills have lost five in a row. |
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Post by wiseman on Jun 19, 2022 17:30:05 GMT
The young players can't do any worse cover point I think the management is all wrong, the overseas players in this format is money wasted looking at khan's stats the don't rack up with his pedigree. Rizwan a quality player but inconsistent. Wouldn't of bothered with o/s players and invested in a couple of fast English bowlers. Good fast English bowlers (who aren't injured) are a rare commodity. How as this been allowed to happen our bowlers of note seemed to have disappeared when you think of the bowlers from a few years ago we are forced into loaning 38 y.o and sighning players past there best like finn.Also it's not a good move to play on regular basis young bowlers like hunt,crocombe despite having the talent. |
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Jun 19, 2022 20:40:13 GMT
Yes when you think that a few years ago we had Archer, Sakande, Garton and Whittingham coming through to support the bowlers already established, and Robinson was no age. If you add in the likes of Crocombe, Atkins, Ibrahim and Sarro of the current crop, and you do wonder where it all went wrong and we’ve had to resort to 4 loans/short-term signings for our pace attack this season.
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Post by devonexile on Jun 19, 2022 22:38:58 GMT
Good fast English bowlers (who aren't injured) are a rare commodity. How as this been allowed to happen our bowlers of note seemed to have disappeared when you think of the bowlers from a few years ago we are forced into loaning 38 y.o and sighning players past there best like finn.Also it's not a good move to play on regular basis young bowlers like hunt,crocombe despite having the talent. Just to rub salt into our gaping wound Wisey, the real irony is our 38 year old loanee bagged 2-23 off four overs including two in two at the death in a match winning cause for Somerset today. Further irony, one of them was Sams our tormentor from Friday first ball. His last two overs the seventeenth and nineteenth went for six (two leg byes) and seven (two wickets) respectively. Oh how we could have done with some of that this season as opposed to what our seamers have offered up far too frequently. Just for clarification, merely mentioning it to highlight our frustration, I am in NO WAY suggesting we sign him permanently. We need to learn from Claydon, Meaker and dare I say it Finn that this is not a direction we should be going. |
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Post by wiseman on Jun 20, 2022 6:53:49 GMT
How as this been allowed to happen our bowlers of note seemed to have disappeared when you think of the bowlers from a few years ago we are forced into loaning 38 y.o and sighning players past there best like finn.Also it's not a good move to play on regular basis young bowlers like hunt,crocombe despite having the talent. Just to rub salt into our gaping wound Wisey, the real irony is our 38 year old loanee bagged 2-23 off four overs including two in two at the death in a match winning cause for Somerset today. Further irony, one of them was Sams our tormentor from Friday first ball. His last two overs the seventeenth and nineteenth went for six (two leg byes) and seven (two wickets) respectively. Oh how we could have done with some of that this season as opposed to what our seamers have offered up far too frequently. Just for clarification, merely mentioning it to highlight our frustration, I am in NO WAY suggesting we sign him permanently. We need to learn from Claydon, Meaker and dare I say it Finn that this is not a direction we should be going. Guys,users as message board would it not be possible we could make our opinions known and discuss with the county our frustrations because all other fans that attend but don't use this forum feel the same. |
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Post by joe on Jun 20, 2022 7:46:49 GMT
Just to put things in perspective Luke Wells has 2 wkts @ 38 and 35 runs @ 11 for Lancs.
The big problem is changing the playing side game in game out. It doesn’t make for a cohesive team. They don’t fight for the win because they are playing for themselves and their stats.
A lot of the ethos on the pitch is down to the captain. If players see the captain is unsure of bowling changes or field placements they are not going to be enthused about the game or have confidence in that captain. Bopara has a lot of experience but that doesn’t mean he’s a good captain.
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Post by grandavefan on Jun 20, 2022 9:16:29 GMT
Fine observation Joe. I concur.
Same can be said of Kirtley. I'm sorry, out of his depth.
Some of the overseas have been lucky to get paid here, Siefert, no quite what you'd want.
The rest, OK, they have performed when needed.
I think it's the homegrown that are over rated. Crocombe, Atkins, they are just NOT ready, NOT Mature enough
for 1st team cricket, yet. There are a few more like that.
Experienced players have left or left out when they might have stayed and should be playing.
Young players need supporting and teaching.
But, ultimately Kirtley & Salisbury are out of their depths.
Time for change by the management, sooner rather than later.
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Post by enoughisenough on Jun 20, 2022 16:54:41 GMT
No less challenging than playing is the task facing the Sussex marketing team as they try to talk up the Sharks on the website and social media. ..."get your tickets and support the Sharks as they look to finish the group in style".
Hmmmm.... Good luck with that!
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