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Post by hhsussex on Feb 16, 2015 14:47:58 GMT
Nor, as a letter in today's Guardian points out, on the consciences of Roosevelt and his generals, who authorised the incendiary bombing of Tokyo, also this month in 1945, in which over 100,000 civilians were burned to death.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 20, 2015 13:07:09 GMT
It is good to know that after banging on for the last 4 years that the Club should generate more money from renting out retail outlets within the ground, that is exactly what Sussex CCC are now doing. The vast and wasted expanse of the Club shop is being cut in two, thus creating a new outlet, snuggled in between the Newbery premise, which, when Cafe Pasticci is included, the ground now has 4 prime commercial outlets which all generate much needed annual income for the Club. This new outlet is 800' sq; has a new lease; the rent includes all rates, utilities etc.. and is yours for £29,000 pa. It can be used for either office space or retail except catering, so there is no clash with the cafe. 'Graves & Jenkins' are the local estate agents who have taken on the outlet and say everything is negotiable, whatever that means. The premise should be ready for renting at the end of February, early March. The next step is to change 'Cafe Pasticci' into a small supermarket like a 'Metro' or 'Local'. Then rebuild the awful dilapidated eyesore of the old Newbery building into five further retail outlets and, hey presto, the outline of the Sussex CCC Village appears. Anyone interested should contact 'Graves & Jenkins' at: www.gravesjenkins.com/property/14323310/unit-3-south-west-stand-sussex-county-cricket-club-eaton-road-hove/#ad-image-ContentMain_repGallery_hlLargeImage_0 |
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Post by hhsussex on Feb 20, 2015 13:53:44 GMT
It is good to know that after banging on for the last 3 years that the Club should generate more money from renting out retail outlets within the ground, that is exactly what Sussex CCC are now doing. The vast and wasted expanse of the Club shop is being cut in two, thus creating a new outlet, snugged in between the Newbery premise, which, when Cafe Pasticci is included, the ground now has 4 prime commercial outlets which all generate much needed annual income for the Club. This new outlet is 800' sq; has a new lease; the rent includes all rates, utilities etc.. and is yours for £29,000 pa. It can be used for either office space or retail except catering, so there is no clash with the cafe. 'Graves & Jenkins' are the local estate agents who have taken on the outlet and say everything is negotiable, whatever that means. The premise should be ready for renting at the end of February, early March. The next step is to change 'Cafe Pasticci' into a small supermarket like a 'Metro' or 'Local'. Then rebuild the awful dilapidated eyesore of the old Newbery building into five further retail outlets and, hey presto, the outline of the Sussex CCC Village appears. Anyone interested should contact 'Graves & Jenkins' at: www.gravesjenkins.com/property/14323310/unit-3-south-west-stand-sussex-county-cricket-club-eaton-road-hove/#ad-image-ContentMain_repGallery_hlLargeImage_0 It sounds a very positive and practical move.I've always been astonished by the amount of wasted space in this shiny and very expensive new facility, and wondered how the club could have neglected such an obvious revenue-generating opportunity whilst at the same time bemoaning the lack of sponsorship and going in for ridiculous school-fete style fund-raising. £29, 000 a year is a useful first step. Of course it could be so much more. As you rightly say, Cafe Pasticci is occupying potentially valuable retail commercial space. They have lovely ice creams and tasty snacks, but it is a very large outlet and can never generate serious amounts of income, particularly as there always seem to be at least half a dozen people behind the counter in one role or another. |
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Post by flashblade on Feb 20, 2015 14:03:41 GMT
It is good to know that after banging on for the last 3 years that the Club should generate more money from renting out retail outlets within the ground, that is exactly what Sussex CCC are now doing. The vast and wasted expanse of the Club shop is being cut in two, thus creating a new outlet, snugged in between the Newbery premise, which, when Cafe Pasticci is included, the ground now has 4 prime commercial outlets which all generate much needed annual income for the Club. This new outlet is 800' sq; has a new lease; the rent includes all rates, utilities etc.. and is yours for £29,000 pa. It can be used for either office space or retail except catering, so there is no clash with the cafe. 'Graves & Jenkins' are the local estate agents who have taken on the outlet and say everything is negotiable, whatever that means. The premise should be ready for renting at the end of February, early March. The next step is to change 'Cafe Pasticci' into a small supermarket like a 'Metro' or 'Local'. Then rebuild the awful dilapidated eyesore of the old Newbery building into five further retail outlets and, hey presto, the outline of the Sussex CCC Village appears. Anyone interested should contact 'Graves & Jenkins' at: www.gravesjenkins.com/property/14323310/unit-3-south-west-stand-sussex-county-cricket-club-eaton-road-hove/#ad-image-ContentMain_repGallery_hlLargeImage_0 It sounds a very positive and practical move.I've always been astonished by the amount of wasted space in this shiny and very expensive new facility, and wondered how the club could have neglected such an obvious revenue-generating opportunity whilst at the same time bemoaning the lack of sponsorship and going in for ridiculous school-fete style fund-raising. £29, 000 a year is a useful first step. Of course it could be so much more. As you rightly say, Cafe Pasticci is occupying potentially valuable retail commercial space. They have lovely ice creams and tasty snacks, but it is a very large outlet and can never generate serious amounts of income, particularly as there always seem to be at least half a dozen people behind the counter in one role or another. But that's not an issue if they're paying a commercial rent to the club, is it? |
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Post by hhsussex on Feb 20, 2015 14:23:18 GMT
It sounds a very positive and practical move.I've always been astonished by the amount of wasted space in this shiny and very expensive new facility, and wondered how the club could have neglected such an obvious revenue-generating opportunity whilst at the same time bemoaning the lack of sponsorship and going in for ridiculous school-fete style fund-raising. £29, 000 a year is a useful first step. Of course it could be so much more. As you rightly say, Cafe Pasticci is occupying potentially valuable retail commercial space. They have lovely ice creams and tasty snacks, but it is a very large outlet and can never generate serious amounts of income, particularly as there always seem to be at least half a dozen people behind the counter in one role or another. But that's not an issue if they're paying a commercial rent to the club, is it? The issue is, could it be bettered? Would another type of concern pay more for a prime location and an excellent selling opportunity? |
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Post by flashblade on Feb 20, 2015 15:33:51 GMT
But that's not an issue if they're paying a commercial rent to the club, is it? The issue is, could it be bettered? Would another type of concern pay more for a prime location and an excellent selling opportunity? Are you suggesting that they're not paying a commercial rent and that the club might achieve a higher rent from a more profitable tenant? In any event, the catering facility has become an important part of the Brightonandhovejobs.comcountyground facilities, IMHO. |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 20, 2015 18:22:04 GMT
fb,
Are you suggesting that they're not paying a commercial rent and that the club might achieve a higher rent from a more profitable tenant?
The phrase 'feast or famine' comes to mind when describing the 'Cafe Pasticci' business. Those who run it are lovely people but because of
that phrase the Club are more understanding, perhaps, of their plight particularly during the 6 months of no cricket at the ground.
Therefore, I would agree with hhs, that another commercial business that does not rely so heavily on cricket crowds could prosper better
and therefore garner a higher rent for Sussex CCC.
That is why I have suggested from the start that a 'Metro' or other similar-style supermarket is essential to attract the local populace through the
winter months - and this would have a positive knock-on affect for other commercial businesses within the ground.
£29,000 pa for this latest retail outlet seems a lot of money to pay if the enterprise suffers during the winter months.
Having said that I was surprised to discover that those small retail outlets recently built next to the Alfresco restaurant on the Hove promenade
where the "i" is to be constructed - the rental cost there when utilities are included is around £15,000 a year. I can't believe many of those traders will
survive more than a year as it is another 'feast or famine' scenario.
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Post by flashblade on Feb 20, 2015 18:59:55 GMT
Fluffy, you imply that the Cafe P is not very profitable and that a more profitable business might be persuaded to occupy the unit. You may well be right, but this again dodges my question, which was:
Is the club receiving a commercial rent from Cafe P? If not, why not? If yes, then unless you think someone would be prepared to pay above market rent, then the club is already maximising its income from this unit.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 21, 2015 10:26:29 GMT
fb,
I along with everyone else would be utterly stupefied if the Club were gaining no rental money from 'Cafe Pasticci'. As to the
finer detail and what that rent might be, only our Chief Exec would know.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 22, 2015 10:36:02 GMT
Tickets for the MADNESS concert on June 28th at the Hove ground went on sale on Friday. Three companies are involved. Ticketmaster is the primary one. www.ticketmaster.co.uk
www.grandslammadness.co.uk
www.lizhobbsgroup.com
 Tickets are £35 across the board as it is all standing. Presumably, first come first nearest the stage. For old fogies like me bringing a fold up chair is essential. No idea whether you’re allowed to bring your own food or drink. At the JLS concert there was a ban on umbrellas at the ground gate as they were deemed too dangerous by the promoter. Bad timing as it rained for several hours during the concert. The letters of complaint poured in afterwards. There is a fair value family deal along with expensive corporate packages (click on weblink below). WARNING: Expect all the extra charges including a £3.50 booking fee per ticket, postage and that underhand insurance charge of £15.50 if you can’t make the concert and want your money returned. This is not properly flagged up on the website as you’re being distracted by the long and tedious registering, three minute process countdowns, and eventual credit card payment. Many end up paying this charge without realising it. Then the Mexican standoff begins. Do you accept it or then go through another tedious process of phoning or emailing the insurance company and waiting a week for reimbursement. www.sussexcricket.co.uk/news-1/madness-grandslam-madness-pop-legends-to-play-at-sussex-county-cricket-clubThe long range forecast from ‘The Weather Outlook’ predicts a sizzling June and July which warrants about as much deference as a ‘Daily Express’ weather shock horror headline. Meanwhile, ‘The Mirror’ are giving away ten FREE family passes. As they trumpet in classic Mirror rhetoric: “What would you do if you got to meet the band? Get a selfie with the kids, enjoy re-living your youth with Pop legends that had 15 singles including Our House, One Step Beyond and My Girl? “We’ve teamed up with them to give 10 lucky winners a family pass each to see them at a venue of your choice (see tour dates/venues) and to meet the band!” www.mirror.co.uk/play/competitions/win-meet-greet-tickets-grandslam-5173112 |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 10:58:12 GMT
In the absence of a new Madness album to coincide with the tour, the band's Chas Smash releases his first solo album, A Comfortable Man, in May, a month before the group's appearance at the county ground. You can hear the lead track here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfhx2fo2Vr0It's a very, very sombre ballad and rather striking in its way - but I can't quite see it taking its place in the set list between Baggy Trousers and House of Fun ! |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 23, 2015 12:28:04 GMT
Since the publication of ‘Sussex CCC Revolution and Skullduggery: Reflections on the Past’ I have been contacted by several people about the feature, in particular, from our Chairman Jim May. He has kindly offered further information about the infamous Members Revolt at the Grand Hotel in March 1997, along with press cuttings covering the event which are published below. Jim explains he instigated the revolt back in 1996 after contacting Robin Marlar. He persuaded Robin to stand alongside him on a mandate of change. Tony Pigott joined soon after. Jim emphasises that Pigott’s role “was invaluable”. Richard Barrow, a former Sussex CCC Committee Member, who had resigned a month or so earlier then joined the rebels. Nigel Bett whose ‘derriere’ had appeared in the magazine ‘British Naturism’, then suffered further indignity when the said picture was published in ‘The Sun’ newspaper. Bett took a lengthy absence of club leave due to ill-health and never turned up to the meeting, where around 1,000 Sussex Members attended compared to the average 100, mainly to offer support to the rebels. Meanwhile, Pigott had collected the 50 Member signatures required to force a special meeting. The old committee were expecting the debate on the crisis engulfing the club to be the last item on the AGM agenda, but Jim May surprised them by proposing an unprecedented rejection of their 1996 report early in the proceedings. The confrontation was, not surprisingly, fractious leading to the famous quote from club surgeon and 6 year committee member, Frank Horan, who called the rebels “rabble-rousers” and stated, “I don’t believe in mob rule.” The final straw came when Robin Marlar accused Horan of “reducing this club to a laughing stock”. The surgeon stormed out of the meeting in a fit of pique. Soon after Vice-Chairman Alan Wadey raised the white flag and the revolutionaries had won. Hopefully, the three pictures below are good enough quality to read a fuller account. Click on each pic for an enlarged size. The Evening Argus The Times The Sunday Times |
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Post by flashblade on Feb 23, 2015 14:40:56 GMT
That was the 1st AGM I attended and it was great entertainment - "I'll have some of that", I thought.
I went to a few AGMs after that, but they were all anti-climaxes, I'm afraid . . .
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Post by leedsgull on Feb 23, 2015 15:06:59 GMT
I have been to a few Yorkshire AGM'S hoping for the rancour of old and the lynch party mentality. Sadly they are now anodyne affairs where the great god Graves gives his sermon to the masses.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 24, 2015 16:27:05 GMT
This is superb value for money for unless county cricket carry on almost giving away tickets to the youngsters, how else will the sport survive in 20 years? Hopefully, more local schools will be given FREE tickets to home Championship matches this season. Meanwhile, £1 tickets for those under 17? One is almost tempted to say FREE admission for an entire Championship season or even better offer a FREE fizzy drink and 'goody bag' alongside FREE admission but that may be pushing things. The reality is, youngsters are the sport's lifeblood. No youngsters today, no cricket tomorrow. The most disappointing aspect of a Championship match starting on a Sunday is that STILL few of them come along to Hove. I remember that home game against Durham early on last season. I counted just three amongst the crowd during the whole day.  |
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