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Post by coverpoint on Jul 27, 2015 20:41:04 GMT
Time to stop picking sides on hunches and pick a side actually capable of winning!
Nash
Wright (c - time to make him captain in all formats)
Machan
Bailey (hasn't justified his airline ticket let alone his place in the side)
Joyce
Yardy
Brown (+)
Beer
Robinson
Thomas
Liddle
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Post by jonboy on Jul 28, 2015 7:19:53 GMT
Time to stop picking sides on hunches and pick a side actually capable of winning! Nash Wright (c - time to make him captain in all formats) Machan Bailey (hasn't justified his airline ticket let alone his place in the side) Joyce Yardy Brown (+) Beer Robinson Thomas Liddle I like that side, and maybe also Piolet as an option, depending on the pitch |
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Post by timbo1988 on Jul 28, 2015 8:56:41 GMT
I agree that is the best side!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 9:02:18 GMT
I'd think about Zaidi instead of Yardy and include Mills if he is capable of bowling ten overs. And how did Jordan get on in the seconds yestersday - might he be ready to return on Thursday, or is that too soon?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:14:09 GMT
On current form, with Cachopa playing instead of Brown, we've not so much gained a batsman as lost a wicketkeeper. However, reversing this is not without risk. Brown's T20 batting stats are dire however bm wishes to rationalise them. Will Beer's too, although he merits a place as a bowler. Packing the side with out-of-form batsmen doesn't make much sense, so pick the best five batsmen, the best wicketkeeper and the best five bowlers.
Keep it simple.
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Post by grandavefan on Jul 28, 2015 12:46:37 GMT
Brown and Zaidi are playing at Richmond in a 3 day game starting today. I notice Burgoyne is not playing? Odd that? Has he gone?
That probably rules those 2 out of Thursday?
Both have failed to get decent runs.
Beer should play, best spinner in the club.
Wells should concentrate on getting runs, the team would be better off with his runs, especially as we have the lowest batting points in the Division.
Joyce has lost the plot, (and the team?)completely, IMO. Wright MUST take over now for the club to survive in Div 1. I fear Joyce's stubbonness will take the club down. Then who to point the finger at? Must be Robinson and his staff? For being blindly lead down the path by Joyce.
Not good management.
I have no idea what team will be sent on the pitch on Thursday. Picking a team appears to be a lottery.
Better do Euro millions to stand a chance of getting the selection correct!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 12:58:58 GMT
Whether Bugoyne's gone for good I know not but he's certainly gone for plenty, just like Dockrell and Zaidi. We're now in the ridiculous situation where Robbo just will not face the fact that he and Joyce has made compound errors over the selection of Will Beer. Things could simply be no worse wth Will in the side. You can debate whether one batsman is more desparately out of form than another but you cannot justify curbing our best spinner's development by playing a succession of alternatives who are ineffective and have no future at the club.
For God's sake, see sense!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 14:57:44 GMT
On current form, with Cachopa playing instead of Brown, we've not so much gained a batsman as lost a wicketkeeper. However, reversing this is not without risk. Brown's T20 batting stats are dire however bm wishes to rationalise them. I agree Brown should keep wicket, and I have to defend his batting this season. He faced just 28 balls in the T20 Blast (and in one match was considered a good enough batsman to be converted into an emergency opener). In the CC he's scored 669 runs and sits third in the averages! |
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Post by timbo1988 on Jul 28, 2015 17:12:05 GMT
Whether Bugoyne's gone for good I know not but he's certainly gone for plenty, just like Dockrell and Zaidi. We're now in the ridiculous situation where Robbo just will not face the fact that he and Joyce has made compound errors over the selection of Will Beer. Things could simply be no worse wth Will in the side. You can debate whether one batsman is more desparately out of form than another but you cannot justify curbing our best spinner's development by playing a succession of alternatives who are ineffective and have no future at the club. For God's sake, see sense! The irony of it is that in Joyce's interview after the Notts game he said the plan all winter was to play 4 seamers all year and rely on Nash and Wells for spin options but this has been hit by injuries to the seamers so in his words "we are searching for a spinner, we tried Dockrell, Zaidi bowled well when he has played and Burgoyne played well against Warks but struggled against Notts". He didn't even mention Beer. Beer has played in every game under Luke Wright but no games under Joyce as captain. Robinson can't get away from this without blame as he should be held accountable for the selection too. Beer's chance of developing in 4 day cricket may have gone as he has never been given a fair chance to have a run in the side in that format even though he has excelled in T20 cricket. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 18:14:32 GMT
Beer has played in every game under Luke Wright but no games under Joyce as captain. Joyce must have been the man who wanted to sign his Irish compatriot Dockrell on loan, so that speaks volumes about the low regard in which he holds Will Beer. |
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Post by grandavefan on Jul 29, 2015 7:56:46 GMT
Coverpoints message I saw last evening has gone. Who removed it and why?
Timbo. His record in 40 & 50 over cricket is good as well. I'm with you, strange.
Your quotes of Joyce show why Sussex 4 day cricket is a mess. No flexibility in the thinking, no use of the squad to gain full potential.
Changes must happen.
If it were a business it would be struggling, the bank would be on to them. Come on Jim get in on the act. Change of management or restructure. That's what you bankers do isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 19:00:22 GMT
This is already feeling like a 'must win' for Sussex.
Warwicks should remain bottom tonight thanks to Trott, who in his first white ball appearance of the season has surely lost the game for his side by batting 28 overs for 51 runs while chasing an Essex total of 320.
But defeat would leave the side on one point after three matches and, in a tournament of just eight fixtures,facing a very difficult game of catch-up over the remaining five which would require a consistency of performance that wasn't achieved even in what was a rather good T20 campaign.
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Post by fraudster on Jul 29, 2015 20:54:24 GMT
Whether Bugoyne's gone for good I know not but he's certainly gone for plenty, just like Dockrell and Zaidi. We're now in the ridiculous situation where Robbo just will not face the fact that he and Joyce has made compound errors over the selection of Will Beer. Things could simply be no worse wth Will in the side. You can debate whether one batsman is more desparately out of form than another but you cannot justify curbing our best spinner's development by playing a succession of alternatives who are ineffective and have no future at the club. For God's sake, see sense! Well do me sideways - for six years I've posting for Beer to be in the side and I could have summed it all up in one paragraph, as above, copied saved and pasted, or posted, a couple of times a year, depending on how irate I am. Hats off stoner - and it was started with a witty remark too, a real gem of a post. CP's team doesn't improve much in the seam attack, might even worsen it, so taking a leaf out of BM's Brown theory book, The Big Book of Brown Theories, possibly, I would drop Bailey for now and play Mags. I would also play Mills, Yardy, Brown and possibly Beer - possibly. |
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Post by hhsussex on Jul 30, 2015 6:54:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 7:16:42 GMT
So the Cachopa as keeper theory is, as I feared, being tested to destruction. After losing 5 wkts in three overs for 16 runs in the last game, I'd have thought Brown is exactly the sort of man to try to hold the lower order together rather than entrusting the job to Luke Wells at number seven.
I wonder if they considered selecting Magoffin who has played one CC game in the last three and a half weeks and if, he is being kept for red ball cricket, will not play again until August 7 ? He'd have bowled a tight spell at the top of the innings and probably have prevented Hales getting off to a flier , plus nine or ten overs would have kept him 'in rhythm' in the middle of what will otherwise be a 16 days lay-off.
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