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Post by hhsussex on Aug 4, 2015 7:06:07 GMT
Setting up this thread out of a sense of duty, since any interest in this superfluous tournament can only be related to what kind of pratfall Sussex make this time. Please, please rest some of the bowlers we need in the much more important championship game on Friday, and make Wright captain...and a bicycle for Christmas, and World Peace  |
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Post by joe on Aug 4, 2015 8:34:08 GMT
Totally agree HH. It's a dead rubber anyway so lets see Sakande, H-P, Whittingham, Moses or Grant given a go.
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Post by flashblade on Aug 4, 2015 8:51:14 GMT
Agreed. There will be ructions if any of our front line bowlers get injured in these meaningless matches.
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 4, 2015 16:02:11 GMT
I would play the following XI:
Haines
Finch
Bailey
Yardy (c)
Hudson-Prentice
Jackson (+)
Beer
Piolet
Thomas
Liddle
Mills
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 16:43:59 GMT
Can’t say I agree entirely with cp’s side.
But I’d agree that when you are out of a competition it would be foolish not to use it as an opportunity to try different options in preparation for next season.
Not sure Mark Robinson will see it that way from behind the barricades in his bunker, where it seems he would rather die alone than invite Prior or Adams to help him out. (Apparently Prior was making a flagrant job application from the Sky commentary box last night - withering comments about the attitude and body language of Sussex in the field and deeply critical of the approach of the batsmen to their preparation and net practice? If so, he’ll be off Robbo’s Xmas card list…)
But here’s what I’d try for the match at Swansea: -
Forget about Cachopa keeping wkt. He’s either worth his place as a batsman or he’s not. He’s made 54 runs in four innings and has not proved that he is a better bat than Brown, who is indisputably the superior keeper and also has two f/c centuries this season.
Send Thomas and his creaking bones back to Somerset, where he can moulder in their second XI with Dockrell.
Strip Joyce of the captaincy and hand it to Wright. Joyce looks so tired and world-weary that he’d struggle to lift a feather at the moment, let alone a team.
Sideline Yardy. What’s the point? He won’t be around next season.
Of those named above only Ca-chopper is part of Sussex’s future.
In their place:-
See if Wells can anchor the innings over 50 overs, batting in the top three. (Not convinced myself, but it’s a better idea than expecting him to play a run-a-ball cameo over the last half dozen overs coming at number seven).
Give Zaidi a chance with bat and ball.
Bring in Finch and Hudson-Prentice.
Make one last effort to see if there is a role for Piolet as a pace-off bowler who can bat a bit.
Give one of the academy youngsters a first XI debut (no idea which one).
Doesn’t have to be exactly that formulation. Just try something different with an eye to the future rather than relying on the same old failing players whose day is done.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 19:15:30 GMT
Can’t say I agree entirely with cp’s side. But I’d agree that when you are out of a competition it would be foolish not to use it as an opportunity to try different options in preparation for next season. Not sure Mark Robinson will see it that way from behind the barricades in his bunker, where it seems he would rather die alone than invite Prior or Adams to help him out. (Apparently Prior was making a flagrant job application from the Sky commentary box last night - withering comments about the attitude and body language of Sussex in the field and deeply critical of the approach of the batsmen to their preparation and net practice? If so, he’ll be off Robbo’s Xmas card list…) But here’s what I’d try for the match at Swansea: - Forget about Cachopa keeping wkt. He’s either worth his place as a batsman or he’s not. He’s made 54 runs in four innings and has not proved that he is a better bat than Brown, who is indisputably the superior keeper and also has two f/c centuries this season. Send Thomas and his creaking bones back to Somerset, where he can moulder in their second XI with Dockrell. Strip Joyce of the captaincy and hand it to Wright. Joyce looks so tired and world-weary that he’d struggle to lift a feather at the moment, let alone a team. Sideline Yardy. What’s the point? He won’t be around next season. Of those named above only Ca-chopper is part of Sussex’s future. In their place:- See if Wells can anchor the innings over 50 overs, batting in the top three. (Not convinced myself, but it’s a better idea than expecting him to play a run-a-ball cameo over the last half dozen overs coming at number seven). Give Zaidi a chance with bat and ball. Bring in Finch and Hudson-Prentice. Make one last effort to see if there is a role for Piolet as a pace-off bowler who can bat a bit. Give one of the academy youngsters a first XI debut (no idea which one). Doesn’t have to be exactly that formulation. Just try something different with an eye to the future rather than relying on the same old failing players whose day is done. With you apart from Brown who averages 4.4 in T20. That's 22 runs in five completed innings. You can't replace the nearly dead with the stone dead. Prior is a hypocrite. He talked of breaking the target down into achievable chunks yet threw his wicket away recklessly (2009 one-day final a case in point). |
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Post by jonboy on Aug 4, 2015 19:30:36 GMT
Can’t say I agree entirely with cp’s side. But I’d agree that when you are out of a competition it would be foolish not to use it as an opportunity to try different options in preparation for next season. Not sure Mark Robinson will see it that way from behind the barricades in his bunker, where it seems he would rather die alone than invite Prior or Adams to help him out. (Apparently Prior was making a flagrant job application from the Sky commentary box last night - withering comments about the attitude and body language of Sussex in the field and deeply critical of the approach of the batsmen to their preparation and net practice? If so, he’ll be off Robbo’s Xmas card list…) But here’s what I’d try for the match at Swansea: - Forget about Cachopa keeping wkt. He’s either worth his place as a batsman or he’s not. He’s made 54 runs in four innings and has not proved that he is a better bat than Brown, who is indisputably the superior keeper and also has two f/c centuries this season. Send Thomas and his creaking bones back to Somerset, where he can moulder in their second XI with Dockrell. Strip Joyce of the captaincy and hand it to Wright. Joyce looks so tired and world-weary that he’d struggle to lift a feather at the moment, let alone a team. Sideline Yardy. What’s the point? He won’t be around next season. Of those named above only Ca-chopper is part of Sussex’s future. In their place:- See if Wells can anchor the innings over 50 overs, batting in the top three. (Not convinced myself, but it’s a better idea than expecting him to play a run-a-ball cameo over the last half dozen overs coming at number seven). Give Zaidi a chance with bat and ball. Bring in Finch and Hudson-Prentice. Make one last effort to see if there is a role for Piolet as a pace-off bowler who can bat a bit. Give one of the academy youngsters a first XI debut (no idea which one). Doesn’t have to be exactly that formulation. Just try something different with an eye to the future rather than relying on the same old failing players whose day is done. With you apart from Brown who averages 4.4 in T20. That's 22 runs in five completed innings. You can't replace the nearly dead with the stone dead. Prior is a hypocrite. He talked of breaking the target down into achievable chunks yet threw his wicket away recklessly (2009 one-day final a case in point). Older, and probably wiser now though |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 19:50:41 GMT
With you apart from Brown who averages 4.4 in T20. That's 22 runs in five completed innings. You can't replace the nearly dead with the stone dead. Prior is a hypocrite. He talked of breaking the target down into achievable chunks yet threw his wicket away recklessly (2009 one-day final a case in point). Older, and probably wiser now though Yes, I'd accept that but I don't think he served Sussex well in one-day cricket. In that he did not fulfil his talent. In the longer version of the game, with his international place at stake, he was much more focused. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 20:33:32 GMT
Older, and probably wiser now though Yes, I'd accept that but I don't think he served Sussex well in one-day cricket. In that he did not fulfil his talent. In the longer version of the game, with his international place at stake, he was much more focused. Is it true that he said on Sky last night that he's desperate to stay in the game and is talking to Sussex about a job? From what I hear he had plenty of forthright comments last night about why Sussex are struggling that went way beyond the 'injured bowlers and luck is against us' defence peddled by the club's beleagured coaches... It would appear that he's decided his cycling venture isn't quite full time (hence his increasingly regular stints on Sky) and that he reckons he's the man to help Robinson save Sussex from relegation. I'd prefer the more experienced Adams, I have to say. But I'd settle for anyone because I think Robinson is in the same position that Newell was in when Notts were struggling. Newell was big enough to ask Peter Moores to help him out and his arrival turned around Notts season in dramatic fashion. |
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Post by howardh on Aug 4, 2015 21:39:36 GMT
Don't fall over..... I agree!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 9:14:50 GMT
Brown and Piolet in for Nash and Robinson.
Sussex won the toss and put Glamorgan in, presumably based on how difficult Sussex found batting in the 10.30 morning dew at Canterbury on Sunday. Can we look forward to three wickets by 11 am, then?
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 5, 2015 11:17:55 GMT
Another rain-affected match and a DL result looming. As Sussex lie bottom of the RLC table, a sensible move by Robinson to rest our best OD players as the T20 QFs beckon. One hopes both Wright and Nash remain in form for that match along with a resurgent George. If Sussex 'can' reach Finals Day that is something for supporters to cheer about amidst an otherwise disappointing season. Meanwhile, there is a 4 day Championship game against Middlesex to contend with! The ECB fixture organiser must model himself on Hunter S. Thompson. www.theargus.co.uk/sport/13573457.Sussex_to_rest_in_form_Wright_ahead_of_vital_games/?ref=eb |
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Post by hhsussex on Aug 5, 2015 15:16:39 GMT
Another rain-affected match and a DL result looming. As Sussex lie bottom of the RLC table, a sensible move by Robinson to rest our best OD players as the T20 QFs beckon. One hopes both Wright and Nash remain in form for that match along with a resurgent George. If Sussex 'can' reach Finals Day that is something for supporters to cheer about amidst an otherwise disappointing season. Meanwhile, there is a 4 day Championship game against Middlesex to contend with! The ECB fixture organiser must model himself on Hunter S. Thompson. www.theargus.co.uk/sport/13573457.Sussex_to_rest_in_form_Wright_ahead_of_vital_games/?ref=ebAnother point gained. Are you suggesting the fixtures organiser travels in a red convertible with a stash of mescaline, coke, blotter acid, ether and every kind of alcohol? That could explain some hallucinatory games.... |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 5, 2015 17:09:03 GMT
Hhs,
Something like that while writing his own Gonzo scripts... You would need to be high to create such a fixture list, anyway!
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Post by fraudster on Aug 5, 2015 18:26:31 GMT
Setting up this thread out of a sense of duty, since any interest in this superfluous tournament can only be related to what kind of pratfall Sussex make this time. Please, please rest some of the bowlers we need in the much more important championship game on Friday, and make Wright captain...and a bicycle for Christmas, and World Peace Like who? Robinson you mean? The only one. Amazingly, Robbo has done the right thing and rested Nash and Wright - should have rested Machan as well though. But why on earth are we not yet looking at a certain three lads at least, and that's without dipping into the Academy - H-P, Finch and Jackson. These boys are all old enough and are on the staff and I can't for one second buy into the Robbo theory that one failure or tonking for a lad can ruin him. If he's that easily damaged he won't get far anyway, may as well expose him early if he's that mentally inept - utter b******s. There is not a better time to play these boys but history suggests Robbo disagrees. What a waste. On a relating note, Robbo would STILL rather play 'Alfonzo The Not So Great' even though only Somerset can gain from it now. If to sign him in the first place wasn't enough to stagger people as much as me what about still using him in a comp we can't progress from? What is the point? Maybe his stats are working for him: 5 39.0 2 233 3 77.67 5.97 1-29. No they aren't. He has three wickets in five matches at an average of 77 and an economy of nearly six. And this is the reason we're stifling the development of Sakande, Whittingham or Garton. Fair enough, I can get my head around why he first came in, although wholeheartedly disagree with it, but to still be playing the guy after those stats and without chance of progress is utterly senseless. Maybe we're persevering because our other multitude of loan signings did so well. Make use the rest of this competition you fools. |
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