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Post by leedsgull on Jan 26, 2016 15:19:21 GMT
I am in agreement with fraudster on both counts. I think South Africa were very lucky with the weather. The area is notorious for afternoon thunderstorms. Listening yesterday all seemed agreed that a deluge was imminent yet they still plodded on and seemed more concerned with Amla getting another ton. To bat on after his dismissal with threatening skies was inexplicable. They were very fortunate the rain was not so heavy and that there was sufficient play to break the back of the England innings. Had England turned up this morning with 10 wickets intact they may well have made a much better fist of it. Conjecture of course but South Africa in particular are notorious for over cautious declarations. The views on this matter by Mark Boucher were enlightening. He had clearly been frustrated in the past by such defensive tactics. I too expect Ian Bell to score heavily for Warwickshire so expect him to return to the team. He has not been outspoken about his dropping so should have no bridges to build. The early Championship matches present great opportunities so hopefully will be excellent viewing. I can almost smell the cut grass.
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Post by fraudster on Jan 26, 2016 21:07:20 GMT
Yes Fraudster sure knows his s**t but to be clear, he was talking in the main about the pace of the innings between lunch and tea rather than the timing of the declaration. Basically, they could have declared at the same time but they should have been 300-8 instead of 248-5 when they declared, or something similar. Obviously declaring earlier would have been wiser either way and more comfortable too, had they upped the rate even a touch in that second session. Inexplicable is a good word for their actions.
Anyway, that's enough from Fraudster. It's been emotional, fun, frustrating at times but I've always enjoyed reading every post, be it from Sussex fans or all those nasty outsiders. I've also enjoyed posting my thoughts and believe it or not, usually to enlighten or suggest rather than antagonise. All good and bad things have to come to an end though. That's the way of the world.
See you tomorrow.
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Post by hhsussex on Jan 30, 2016 11:24:46 GMT
Hot on the heels of discussion of Buttler's one-day credentials on another thread, here is the side for the practice one-day match against a Cricket South Africa XI:
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Post by hhsussex on Jan 31, 2016 9:05:25 GMT
Excellent win against the South Africa A side. A very good workout for some of the non-Test players and the one-day squad seems to be developing very nicely. Jordan had another excellent game: 33 runs, 3 wickets, 3 catches, one of them spectacular,and he should be a fixture from now on.
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Post by hhsussex on Feb 6, 2016 7:43:15 GMT
Jordan to get another chance as England field an unchanged team at Port Elizabeth, South Africa having won the toss and will be batting. I think that is fair; his bowling in the first one day was dreadful and wayward, but he had an outstanding game in the warm-up match against the South African A side and it was his only cricket of any kind for 5 weeks. Today will be a chance for him to make this tour a worthwhile one for him, having given up the chance of contracts in the Pakistan and Bangladesh T20s in order to go, and having been unsold today at auction in the IPL. If he falls out of favour by the end of the tour that may be the end of his representative chances, which would be fine for Sussex but very disappointing for him. He is a very hardworking, gutsy player who always gives of his best and he remains a model of someone who completely resurrected his career after the disappointing days at Surrey when he was so poorly managed.
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Post by leedsgull on Feb 6, 2016 8:50:30 GMT
The lack of comments on this thread about the one day series is perhaps confirmation of my own feelings. Who on earth cares about these matches? Why within a few weeks of a world 20/20 competition are England and South Africa playing 5 50 over matches with ever depleting squads?
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Post by hhsussex on Feb 9, 2016 11:11:26 GMT
Third one-day match at Centurion: England win the toss and will bat. Another unchanged team, with no place yet for Broad to limber up for later T20 duties, and another chance for Jordan to keep himself in the reckoning as other than a magnificent fielder. Suggestions are that a score of 280-300 would be reasonable, but I'm sure that Morgan will want more.
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Post by hhsussex on Feb 9, 2016 14:07:30 GMT
Awful innings by Morgan, destabilising the England push for acceleartion and bringing back the old doubts about England's ability to produce the right team at the right time. If Morgan loses form now, will he get it back in time for the World T20, or should we just go for Root now and complete the rebuilding?
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Post by leedsgull on Feb 9, 2016 15:35:53 GMT
hh You really are struggling to get a dialogue going here. It does seem that no one is at all interested in this series however well England may be doing. It has no context or relevance to anything in the near future. I suspect by the time April comes hardly anybody will recall a game from it.
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Post by hhsussex on Feb 9, 2016 16:19:28 GMT
hh You really are struggling to get a dialogue going here. It does seem that no one is at all interested in this series however well England may be doing. It has no context or relevance to anything in the near future. I suspect by the time April comes hardly anybody will recall a game from it. Yes and no leedsgull. Your response in itself constitutes a dialogue and it doesn't worry me that there aren't hordes struggling to get their words of wisdom in. What matters is to have a conversation. In itself this, like all the one day matches that have ever been played, has no great significance and will certainly not be remembered as sometimes quite minor 5 day matches are remembered. There isn't time to generate that sense of "you had to be there" in one day's play, only the momentary thrill (or boredom) of the ball that flashes to the boundary, the suicidal run out, the diving catch. But it does have a context and it does have relevance to many things that we talk about elsewhere on this forum. I think that there are two things that stand out immediately from today,and from the series so far. The first is the absolute dominance of Root currently as a player for all formats, confident in his abilities to respond to a situation in the right manner, which may mean to build on a successful opening, or to get over a stuttering start and turn it into a profitable and sound centrepiece to a worthy conclusion. In this he is like no other England player I can recall in any form of the game since the days of the strokemaking Nos 3 and 4: May, Cowdrey, the later Graveney, but not Dexter whose style was altogether too flamboyant. Secondly it is that there is an England spirit that seems to be developing that transcends the format and the immediate make-up of the team or squad. It is the same spirit with a rather different group of players in the 5 day game. It seems to be capable of ignoring the occasional poor performance of uncertain passge to the game and to shake its head and get on with the next passage of play, the next wicket to fall. At the moment it is erratic but it is getting better and although some players are central (Root again, Stokes,Ali, Finn when fit) it seems to be teachable to those who have only a limited role - Rashid in the one-days, Bairstow in the Tests, perhaps others. I don't claim that this is great cricket, in fact I think these have been rather boring matches, partly because South Africa seem to have run out of great players for the moment and there is very limited imagination in their captaincy and coaching. But I do think it has a wider significance and I'm quite glad that England are putting not merely a team together, but some sort of coaching ethos. It will be interesting to see where it leads. And, of course, it is February and what else is there to do?
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Post by leedsgull on Feb 9, 2016 17:25:52 GMT
Fair points and I agree that an ethos does seem to be developing. I just think that the likes of Root could have had a few weeks off before the circus reconvenes with the world 20/20. The top players play continuously which must surely limit their lifespan and effectiveness. Presumably Cook is ensconced on his farm more concerned with spring lambs than scores from South Africa. That should clear his mind and rekindle his enthusiasm for the English summer. One hopes Anderson is on some foreign beach rather than doing indoor nets at Old Trafford. The mind needs refreshing.
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