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Post by flashblade on Feb 9, 2016 10:49:04 GMT
Maybe it will be difficult to make an appointment until/unless one of the current players retires? Seriously though, has the batting coach post been advertised to the outside world? Yes indeed, they are to be responsible for".. producing an ongoing pipeline..." and "..developing skills within the batting pathway". Sounds like a good job for someone who's been involved in tarmacing or drain-laying.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 13, 2016 13:55:54 GMT
Surely, next week must be the moment supporters have been waiting for - the official appointment of the new batting coach.
Why has it taken so long?
Zac Toumazi explained that due to the tragic death of Matt Hobden this had slowed down the process and out of respect there
would be no announcement made until after the Memorial Service. Yet, the appointment of Keith Greenfield went ahead during
this mourning period never-the-less.
I spoke to Mark Davis back in November and he stated it was important to find a batting coach asap, so the new man could bed
in with the players before the pre-season training began. Davis added it was also important to find the right person which, reading
between the lines, meant someone who would not upset the coaching staff status quo or pecking order.
It is now only 43 days until the first friendly match against Surrey and 56 days 'til the opening Championship game against Northants.
The Club have advertised extensively for the post and one presumes a fair number of candidates have come forward. So, to
repeat, what is the problem? If the club had chosen Chris Adams, the appointment might have been announced before Christmas.
So, is the candidate decided upon now backing out due to, perhaps, other commitments?
All very strange.
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Post by flashblade on Feb 13, 2016 16:22:57 GMT
Surely, next week must be the moment supporters have been waiting for - the official appointment of the new batting coach. Why has it taken so long? Zac Toumazi explained that due to the tragic death of Matt Hobden this had slowed down the process and out of respect there would be no announcement made until after the Memorial Service. Yet, the appointment of Keith Greenfield went ahead during this mourning period never-the-less. I spoke to Mark Davis back in November and he stated it was important to find a batting coach asap, so the new man could bed in with the players before the pre-season training began. Davis added it was also important to find the right person which, reading between the lines, meant someone who would not upset the coaching staff status quo or pecking order. It is now only 43 days until the first friendly match against Surrey and 56 days 'til the opening Championship game against Northants. The Club have advertised extensively for the post and one presumes a fair number of candidates have come forward. So, to repeat, what is the problem? If the club had chosen Chris Adams, the appointment might have been announced before Christmas. So, is the candidate decided upon now backing out due to, perhaps, other commitments? All very strange. Well, this is a difficulty that can arise when your staff structure isn't based on meritocracy, but on 'buggins's turn' - en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Buggins%27s_turnA good batting coach might not feel comfortable with his intended position in the hierarchy. His status might be easier to accommodate if you call him a batting consultant. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 20:58:43 GMT
Zac Toumazi explained that due to the tragic death of Matt Hobden this had slowed down the process and out of respect there
would be no announcement made until after the Memorial Service. Yet, the appointment of Keith Greenfield went ahead during
this mourning period never-the-less If that is true, it had passed me by. But if you are correct, s&f, that is hypocrisy of the most cynical and dishonest kind. Thought Toumasi was more principled than that. |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 14, 2016 9:57:44 GMT
Bm,
To be fair to our Chief Exec, the decision over who would be the 'Sussex Director' had been made last November. My question being:
Why did it take so long to announce?
Whereas the batting coach or 'consultant' as Fb suggests (sounds a lot better), was still an on-going process, so there is a difference.
When Sussex usually choose important positions, they come from within "the family" and perhaps the lengthy duration is due to:
a) Not being practised in finding a suitable candidate from outside their ranks.
b) Discovering someone with a similar club mindset.
c) A consultant who will not upset the present coaching status quo.
One hopes there are candidates who have applied with the right experience and credentials. I would be surprised, if not.
I am sure it will all unfold next week. 10 days have passed, Monday, since Matt Hobden's Memorial Service. Hopefully, a sufficient
duration of time Re: a mark of respect.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 11:05:24 GMT
Bm, To be fair to our Chief Exec, the decision over who would be the 'Sussex Director' had been made last November. My question being: Why did it take so long to announce? Whereas the batting coach or 'consultant' as Fb suggests (sounds a lot better), was still an on-going process, so there is a difference. When Sussex usually choose important positions, they come from within "the family" and perhaps the lengthy duration is due to: a) Not being practised in finding a suitable candidate from outside their ranks. b) Discovering someone with a similar club mindset. c) A consultant who will not upset the present coaching status quo. One hopes there are candidates who have applied with the right experience and credentials. I would be surprised, if not. I am sure it will all unfold next week. 10 days have passed, Monday, since Matt Hobden's Memorial Service. Hopefully, a sufficient duration of time Re: a mark of respect. That only seems to make it worse. So let's get this straight. You say Greenfield was appointed "last November"? But the club chose not to tell anyone at the time and held back the official announcement of Greenfield's appointment until January, releasing the news during the mourning period for Hobden while the club was running a book of condolences? I have no problem with that, because tragic as such events are, life for the rest has to go on. Yet you say that at the same time the club had announced that "out of respect" there would be no announcement about the batting coach until after the Memorial Service? It's those two contradictory positions that I'm having difficulty squaring the circle between. And all I was saying earlier was that if the circumstances are as you have outlined, then I genuinely believed that Toumasi was better than that. |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 14, 2016 11:54:04 GMT
Bm,
What I am suggesting is that after Mark Robinson left for the England job and Mark Davis took over at the helm, there was an
opening for the 'Director of Sussex Cricket' role and one suspects, although it can't be proven, that Keith Greenfield was pencilled
in for the job back in November.
We know there was no outside advertising for this job, so logic dictates it was coming from within the ranks, and Greenfield was
rumoured to be the obvious candidate.
I understand what you are suggesting but I don't agree Toumazi was being disingenuous. The process of finding a batting consultant
was still on-going.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 12:07:47 GMT
That wasn't really my point.
I don't know the sequence of events; I wasn't here for most of January. I was only going on your comment that "Zac Toumazi explained that due to the tragic death of Matt Hobden this had slowed down the process and out of respect there would be no announcement made until after the Memorial Service. Yet, the appointment of Keith Greenfield went ahead during this mourning period never-the-less."
This struck me as odd and inconsistent, which I am guessing is why you mentioned the two events in juxtaposition to each other - and is why I queried it.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 15, 2016 9:40:05 GMT
Bm,
I have re-read that sentence and the phrase "never-the-less" suggests what you are mooting at but I didn't intend it to be
derogatory. I understand what you are saying though.
One hopes the new batting consultant is announced this week. Otherwise, Mark Davis may feel rather concerned and confused
over what's going on.
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Post by flashblade on Feb 15, 2016 10:16:27 GMT
Bm, I have re-read that sentence and the phrase "never-the-less" suggests what you are mooting at but I didn't intend it to be derogatory. I understand what you are saying though. One hopes the new batting consultant is announced this week. Otherwise, Mark Davis may feel rather concerned and confused
over what's going on.Join the club, Mark. |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 16, 2016 8:39:47 GMT
BREAKING NEWS...
________________________ The new Sussex CCC batting consultant has just been announced. It's Bubbles! 
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Post by deepfineleg on Feb 16, 2016 18:26:52 GMT
BREAKING NEWS...
________________________ The new Sussex CCC batting consultant has just been announced. It's Bubbles! Before you broke that news, I was going to note Mahela Jayawardene was unsold at the IPL auction. |
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Post by joe on Feb 20, 2016 11:34:31 GMT
The squad go to Desert Springs on Monday for their warm weather pre season, seems strange that the new batting coach won't be going with them.
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Post by flashblade on Feb 20, 2016 12:14:55 GMT
It may be difficult for an outsider to feel comfortable about joining such an in-bred 'family' group as the Sussex coaching staff, especially if there are other opportunities available. "This is a local shop for local people" www.youtube.com/watch?v=meF7NmfnXZ0 |
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Post by flashblade on Feb 22, 2016 11:09:57 GMT
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