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Post by hhsussex on Sept 6, 2016 11:35:34 GMT
90-3 at lunchtime looks to be a good position. Glad to see that Brown and Wiese are down at 7 and 8, about their rightful positions; whatever may be thought about the chances of numbers 4, 5 and 6 in the order they are there as batsmen. Also interesting that right at the end of the season Sussex have concluded that Briggs adds nothing that can't be contributed by playing a decent pace bowler and supplementing with spin from Wells when required.
On edit: Meanwhile in the only match in this round where there has been a toss, Somerset won it, batted at Fortress Taunton, and are currently 83-9 against the fiendish medium-pace wiles of Keith Barker and Rikki Clarke. Interesting that in all other cases visiting sides have had a look down at the 10.30 dew , up at the heavy clouds and said "We'll bowl", but only with limited success: the Sussex return is about the best. You do wonder how much of the game is played in the mind and against logic.
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 6, 2016 12:32:47 GMT
Melancholy occasion, but the trip back to Barbados seems to have give Jofra renewed energy for the fight: 3-18 in 10 overs, all clean bowled and Leicestershire 100-5.
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Post by philh on Sept 6, 2016 12:55:13 GMT
Glad to see that Brown and Wiese are down at 7 and 8, about their rightful positions; whatever may be thought about the chances of numbers 4, 5 and 6 in the order they are there as batsmen. Mind you, you wouldn't bet much on 7, 8, 9, 10 being outscored by the previous four, would you? |
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 6, 2016 12:57:17 GMT
Glad to see that Brown and Wiese are down at 7 and 8, about their rightful positions; whatever may be thought about the chances of numbers 4, 5 and 6 in the order they are there as batsmen. Mind you, you wouldn't bet much on 7, 8, 9, 10 being outscored by the previous four, would you? Some of them have contracts to aim for: might help to concentrate the mind. |
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Post by joe on Sept 6, 2016 13:31:41 GMT
All out.
Magoffin 5
Archer 4
Wiese 1
Robinson 0
I wonder if borderman would like to comment?
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Sept 6, 2016 13:39:02 GMT
A fantastic comeback after the dismal Kent performance. Conditions may have helped but to see Magoffin back to his pomp and young Archer proving to be a consistent wicket-taker is a joy for sore eyes. The key now is to keep this momentum going and for the side to face up to and overcome any mental demons that may now arise. We need to win all three sessions today and not just the first one. www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/947073.html |
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Post by joe on Sept 6, 2016 13:52:17 GMT
A lot of the game still to play but the difference between the Kent game and this one so far is Jofra Archer.
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 6, 2016 14:04:36 GMT
A lot of the game still to play but the difference between the Kent game and this one so far is Jofra Archer. Good point - lots of teams need a focus for inspiration. Unfortunately Wright wasn't there to give it early in the season and when he did get back he was troubled by his injuries. Jofra has lifted the side even if he hasn't bowled a side out completely. Player of the year without any doubt. |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Sept 6, 2016 15:40:55 GMT
Ho-hum, here comes the batting collapse. 2 wickets in 7 balls. Shreck the Wreck.  edit: Now 5-50 out of 5-132 |
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 6, 2016 16:00:10 GMT
Cachopa and Hudson-Prentice at the wicket, still 20 short of the miserable Leicestershire score...
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Sept 6, 2016 16:36:41 GMT
hhs, You obviously weren't praying hard enough. 82-0 to 146-6. The Sussex batting collapses are now so predictable you can time your watch by them. Sympathy for the Sussex bowlers who put the club in a strong position time and again and then see all their hard work unravel. Down to Brown and Wiese to get us to 100 ahead. May be Archer will come to the rescue. edit: Wiese goes - this is embarrassing... again! edit: Close 182-7 - Brown showing some backbone. www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/947073.html |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 18:04:53 GMT
All out. Magoffin 5 Archer 4 Wiese 1 Robinson 0 I wonder if borderman would like to comment? Sadly I couldn't be there with you, Joe. I was at Beckenham, to watch three candidates for the winter tour in Duckett, Bell-Drummond and Northeast. Andrew Strauss turned up to watch them as well! But from afar I'd say to the Sussex seam quartet (and to Neil Dexter, too) well bowled on what cricinfo describes as a " green pitch" and in "humid conditions." Why? What on earth have you found to complain about this time? Let me guess. They wouldn't have made three figures if Garton and Whittingham had played in place of Wiese and Robinson?  Or are you upset because the best figures of the day went to a part-time purveyor of dibbly-dobblers in Neil Dexter and Sussex don't have a bowler like that and need to find one? |
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Post by timbo1988 on Sept 6, 2016 20:45:17 GMT
I went to the evening session and the pitch looks like the outfield! The ball was moving all over the place! That being said Nash and Joyce looked very comfortable, the others looked like rabbit in headlights!
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 7, 2016 7:12:05 GMT
17 wickets here, 21 at Taunton on a pitch that the BBC described as "a used pitch with bare patches at both ends to entice the spinners..." , 13 apiece at Nottingham and Cardiff. Yet no suggestion that the Cricket Liaison Officers (new name for pitch inspectors) will be involved, and medium-pacers thriving alongside spinners. What is occurring?
Despite the usual rather muddle-headed attempt to legislate for change, this year's compromise the gift of first innings bowling to the opposition, pitches are behaving pretty much as you would expect at the end of a long season. Most of them have been played on at least once during the season, probably more than that, and in the South at least they have just gone through a pretty long dry spell in which the grass has not grown back as it would do during May or June. Add to that the inevitability of heavy dews, especially when the atmosphere stays humid and sunless for much of the day and you will get wickets with patches of damp, scrubby grass on top of a dry, worn bed. Bowling first may give you an advantage but these wickets will not necessarily play like that throughout the game. As we saw at Hove, admittedly in a game in which the sun throughout the first two days, after the pitch dries out it will play much slower and careful batsmen (emphasis added) can accumulate quite effectively.
The BBC forecast for Leicester is for some sun first thing, then cloud cover throughout the afternoon with high temperatures once again. If Sussex can stay in for most of the morning and get a lead approaching 100 they could find that humidity causing the same problems as yesterday for the Leicester batsmen. That's asking a lot of Brown and Robinson, especially the latter with his tendency to go for those flashing offside shots, so I would settle for 200 or so. The rest is up to the bowlers, unless the pitch dries more quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 7:45:46 GMT
17 wickets here, 21 at Taunton on a pitch that the BBC described as "a used pitch with bare patches at both ends to entice the spinners..." , 13 apiece at Nottingham and Cardiff. Yet no suggestion that the Cricket Liaison Officers (new name for pitch inspectors) will be involved, and medium-pacers thriving alongside spinners. What is occurring? Despite the usual rather muddle-headed attempt to legislate for change, this year's compromise the gift of first innings bowling to the opposition, pitches are behaving pretty much as you would expect at the end of a long season. Most of them have been played on at least once during the season, probably more than that, and in the South at least they have just gone through a pretty long dry spell in which the grass has not grown back as it would do during May or June. Add to that the inevitability of heavy dews, especially when the atmosphere stays humid and sunless for much of the day and you will get wickets with patches of damp, scrubby grass on top of a dry, worn bed. Bowling first may give you an advantage but these wickets will not necessarily play like that throughout the game. Northants had two spinners operating in tandem yesterday afternoon at Beckenham on day one and getting some purchase. But there was also bounce and movement for the pace bowlers. The pitch had a very strange tint. Not green, exactly; more sickly and jaundiced, the kind of hue that stares back at you from the bathroom mirror when you've had a rough night out and aren't quite ready to face the day. The "rather muddle-headed attempt to legislate for change" I'm guessing is a reference to the toss relgulations.One of its stated objectives was to encourage spinners. That hasn't worked so I have another suggestion. Rigorously impose the 16 overs per hour rule - even increase it to 17 if necessary. Stop all the gerrymandering in which even when play ends 40 mins late the over-rate is miraculously manipulated back to zero. Impose fines and points deductions without allowing any pleas of mitigation. That will make captains select and bowl their spinners. Guaranteed. |
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