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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 11, 2014 21:10:49 GMT
A seamer once more went for far too many and lost us the game, yet, this time, who would have guessed it, but England's bright eyed boy. Great stuff to the Sussex tail end for getting us so close. Another big game for Beer. Very disappointing and textbook stuff for this season as frawdy says.
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Post by fraudster on Jul 11, 2014 21:18:22 GMT
A seamer once more went for far too many and lost us the game, yet, this time, who would have guessed it, but England's bright eyed boy Jordan. Great stuff to the Sussex tail end for getting us so close. Another big game for Beer. Very disappointing and textbook stuff for this season as frawdy says. That's what I said to you last time when you were slating Hatchett - it happens, and to all. The point is, BM, that Arafat is in no form at all. If I were gonna put anyone into the pinch-hitter role, it would be Beer, cos of form. Can't remember the last time I saw a pinch-hitter though - think there's a reason for that. Liking the look of Brown lately. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 21:22:46 GMT
A seamer once more went for far too many and lost us the game, yet, this time, who would have guessed it, but England's bright eyed boy. Yep. Sussex lost by three runs - and Jordan bowled a nine ball over that went for 22 runs. Never seen him bowl such rubbish. You do hope England's overpaid and over-rated coaches haven't mucked him up like they did Finn, Rankin and so many others... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 21:29:51 GMT
The point is, BM, that Arafat is in no form at all. Arundel, when he was the highest scorer and best batsman in the side? As for pinch hitters, the likes of Azhar Mahmood and Peter Trego batting at three is the model. If you really think Luke Wells - an admirable four day player - was a better option at number three in the power play, than you're mad. |
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Post by fraudster on Jul 11, 2014 21:40:33 GMT
And if you think Arafat would make a better option in that role than Beer right now I'll see you on the funny farm.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 21:45:00 GMT
And if you think Arafat would make a better option in that role than Beer right now I'll see you on the funny farm. Yes, Beer might be worth a try, although his value seems to be as a finisher and I'd still initially go wth Arafat as he has played the pinch-hitting role successfully before when asked to do so by Graham Ford (and as Sussex found to their cost when he won a T20 match against them at Hove while wearing a Kent shirt ). So are you now in favour of a pinch hitter or againt the idea? I'm struggling to keep up with your mercurial thinking!  |
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Post by rusty on Jul 11, 2014 23:53:44 GMT
What a load of!
Possibly CJ has forgotten how to bowl because he's had sod-all practice this season.
Never mind, County Cricket is meaningless - just ask the PTB!
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Post by flashblade on Jul 12, 2014 7:32:36 GMT
Having watched last night's match from the best seat in the house (Sky TV), here is my two penn'orth:
- Nash is improving as a captain - much more lively than the other candidates.
- Wright batted in his old frenetic manner, although when he relaxed he hit a great straight drive for 6
- Wells doesn't know how to approach a T20 innings. He's got quite a learning curve ahead of him, I think
- Cachopa looked solid, but wasn't around long enough to judge him properly
- Machan seems to have lost confidence in his batting. Is his broken finger a hindrance?
- Brown was good with the gloves and the bat
- Jordan? Well, I wonder if he is suffering the usual symptoms of being dropped by England. His batting was good, but his bowling was woeful. Judging by his body language, playing for England seems to have robbed him of some of his humility.
- Beer was excellent - with bat and ball. His bowling was first rate.
- In his quiet way, Piolet bowled well, and kept it tight.
- Hatchett seems to be improving his white ball skills
A disappointing result for Sussex, but once the first 5 batsmen had all failed, it was always an uphill struggle.
Nonetheless, it was a close exciting finish, and an entertaining match for what looked like a sub-par crowd.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 8:24:31 GMT
Having watched last night's match from the best seat in the house (Sky TV), here is my two penn'orth: - Nash is improving as a captain - much more lively than the other candidates. - Wright batted in his old frenetic manner, although when he relaxed he hit a great straight drive for 6 - Wells doesn't know how to approach a T20 innings. He's got quite a learning curve ahead of him, I think - Cachopa looked solid, but wasn't around long enough to judge him properly - Machan seems to have lost confidence in his batting. Is his broken finger a hindrance? - Brown was good with the gloves and the bat - Jordan? Well, I wonder if he is suffering the usual symptoms of being dropped by England. His batting was good, but his bowling was woeful. Judging by his body language, playing for England seems to have robbed him of some of his humility. - Beer was excellent - with bat and ball. His bowling was first rate. - In his quiet way, Piolet bowled well, and kept it tight. - Hatchett seems to be improving his white ball skills From the same vantage point, I agree with all of that, fb. You make an interesting comment about Jordan. I watched the camera close-ups of him and thought I detected a petulance/lack of humility that I hadn't seen from him before and which is more usually associated with the likes of Stuart Broad. But I dismissed the thought from my mind. I can't stand the sense of entitlement that pervades 'Team England' culture and wondered if perhaps my aversion was leading me to look for signs of its malign influence where they didn't exist. But it's revealing that you got the same impression. I wonder if it is something England deliberately instils in its bowlers - a kind of 'let the batsman know he has no right to score runs off you' attitude - as part of the 'mind games' that take place at international level? Hachett was decent, and it was interesting that he was entrusted with what should have been the wayward Jordan's fourth over at the death. But I was surprised at his lack of pace. The speed gun was clocking him at 75-76 mph, ten mph slower than Jordan. I'd always assumed he was quicker than that and imagined he was at least around 80 mph. It just shows you can't always tell from the boundary rope... But although there were some encouragining signs from Hatchett , Beer and Piolet, the man of the match by a mile was Alex Blake who is such a clean striker of the ball and has every shot in the book plus a few of his own invention. Odd that he can't get near the Kent four day side. I remember seeing him strike a superb 96 at the Oval in a four day game in 2011, when he held the Kent side together in a miserly total of 250-ish until he was denied a deserved century by a twat of a number 11, who called him for a run that wasn't there from his first ball at the crease. Blake's coach at the time, Paul Farbrace, reckoned he was earmarked for a great future but since Jimmy Adams took over he's hardly been given a further opportunity in the championship - just four games in three seasons and the last of those in 2012, I think. He's still only 24 and desperate to establish himself in red ball cricket.With Machan, Finch and now Cachopa waiting in line, I don't see how Sussex could use him. But I can see the likes of Derbys, Northants and Leics being interested in him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 9:34:48 GMT
Very naughty comment on the Kent messageboard, btw, asking "Anyone know which two Sussex players are playing for us this time?" Blimey, that amusing little quotation has caused some copious bed-wetting on the Kent messageboard, with not one but two posts by the site's resident pompous blowhard objercting to its citation on here as "stirring" and a "sense of humour failure" - a strange accusation, as it's cheap wit raised a smirk in me and led me to share the cheeky quip on here with those at whom it was aimed. Sussex personnel may also care to take on board the advice of the same motormouth on what ails the club, as he goes on claim that "Sussex's problems possibly stem from the match fixing revelations which weren't dealt with in a straightforward manner by their management" , that Sussex players "didn't fancy the pressure of the encounter" last night, that the Sussex team is "not entirely at ease with itself" and the result is "a pretty dejected side". The psychoanalysis may well be true. I couldn't comment as I'm not close enough to read the mood inside the Sussex dressing room. But I'd have thought the absence through injury of three of Sussex's regular top five (RHB, Joyce, Yardy) might have had more to do with last night's struggle with the bat than a three years old case of match-fixing by two long departed players? |
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Post by wally on Jul 12, 2014 13:31:19 GMT
The disjointed and disrupted side has really never got going as a settled unit. They miss Yardy bowling in the middle,the decline of Liddle, the mediocrity of Arafat, the changing skippers and injuries at different times to almost everybody has probably led to some stress related play. Wright puts a lot of pressure on himself to be wright.
I would like us to continue with hatchett,luke wells,capocha ,Liddle and Zaidi in this tournament at least.we may learn something new or confirm current beliefs.
however the key to the remainder if the season will be at horsham on Monday week...a win would be a massive relief.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 14:50:12 GMT
That it would have been a very different result if Joyce, Yardy and RHB had been fit and had played instead of Wells, Cachopa and Machan is pretty obvious - the same Kent attack has just been marmalised for 209-5 by Essex.
Brown,Beer and Jordan exposed the weaknesses in the Kent attack but the game was lost by the top batters in what was one of the worst power plays we've seen in many a season.
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Post by mrsdoyle on Jul 12, 2014 16:42:22 GMT
That it would have been a very different result if Joyce, Yardy and RHB had been fit and had played instead of Wells, Cachopa and Machan is pretty obvious - the same Kent attack has just been marmalised for 209-5 by Essex. Brown,Beer and Jordan exposed the weaknesses in the Kent attack but the game was lost by the top batters in what was one of the worst power plays we've seen in many a season. Not convinced that RHB would be a better bet than Machan. |
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Post by wally on Jul 12, 2014 18:54:46 GMT
Joyce, wright,prior, Nash,Rory,Machan,brown,Yardy, beer,Piolet,yasir.
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