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Post by leedsgull on Oct 23, 2016 13:02:55 GMT
Whatever the final outcome tomorrow, huge congratulations to Bangladesh. I sincerely hope that they are given a UK tour very soon. I believe it was 2010 when they last toured. Since then we have had Sri Lanka & New Zealand almost permanently rotated. Cricket needs new blood and I would be delighted to have the opportunity to see Bangladesh play.
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 24, 2016 7:42:54 GMT
Well that was entertaining. It wasn't very good cricket but it did have lots of twists and turns, although I suspect most people would have expected England to win if only because they have so much more experience of playing for high stakes at this level than Bangladesh. There have been criticisms of Cook that he reverted to his seamers to win the game at the end, but I think that actually shows how much his captaincy has matured. Three years ago he hadn't a clue what to do when Swann became ineffective, and mishandled Panesar, so had nothing else to go to but flogging his pace bowlers. This time he has shown adaptability, has not been afraid to follow what the oppositioin is doing if it seems to be effective, has generally got good results from most of his bowlers, and at the end played the option that was most likely to produce results.
It is too early to say whether Duckett will join the lists of Lyth, Hales, Robson et al as a discarded white hope, but he really needs to work on his technique against spin otherwise he will be an automatic wicket to fall cheaply in India. He and Ballance will probably get a second chance especially as Cook has not yet got into his stride and Root only partially, but Hameed should keep in practice for a call in the next few weeks. Meanwhile I cannot recall another England side with so many all-rounders, all of whom came off so frequently and to such effect: Moeen Ali, Stokes, Bairstow and Woakes all played big parts. Perhaps Australia in the early 60s with Mackay, Benaud and Davidson to shuffle from 6 to 9 had their measure technically, but poor old Wally Grout never aspired to a matchwinning or matchsaving innings.
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 27, 2016 12:49:40 GMT
Broad is rested for Finn, and Batty for A nsari. www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-england-2016-17/content/story/1063511.html
I'm a little puzzled with the latter rotation, not because I am against Ansari being tried, but Batty was the most controlling of our spinners at Chittagong, although Moeen Ali bowled some unplayable, and wicket-taking balls. Rashid looked for most of it out of his depth, as I think he will do in India, and I would like to have seen Ansari used as a like-for-like replacement for him. I think that is just postponing the inevitable.
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Post by leedsgull on Oct 27, 2016 13:56:01 GMT
The "experts" say there is little point playing two off spinners. Moin's batting means he is always going to play. Ansari adds even more batting depth and gives variation. I agree about Rashid not being up to it and I think his chances to impress are running out.
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 27, 2016 14:53:15 GMT
According to an interview in All Out Cricket www.alloutcricket.com/blogs/zafar-ansari Zafar Ansari lists his dream slip cordon as Malcolm X, Rosa Luxemburg, Chimamanda Adichie and Angela Davis. Not too sure about Adichie and Davis, but the first two have been pushing up the daisies for a long time so he will need to be careful about his line not to give away too many runs off unclaimed edges.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 17:57:42 GMT
After the revelation that Tymal Mills derives his name from a prominent member of the Black Panther Party, the inclusion of two black power activists and a Trotskyite in Ansari's slip cordon is most interesting. CLR James would surely have approved. #blacklivesmatter
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 29, 2016 5:50:39 GMT
Unfortunate start for Ansari, and as a bowler it wasn't his line that was at fault so much as his length. Perhaps it was just nerves but it isn't really advisable for a spinner to serve up juicy full tosses, especially to wristy players like Tamim and Mominul.
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Post by leedsgull on Oct 29, 2016 14:30:34 GMT
Not looking promising is it? As for India .... I think we should add an experienced batsman to the squad now. Off the top of my head perhaps Hildreth but somebody capable of playing a long innings. Currently the only alternatives to Balance are Hameed and Buttler.
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 30, 2016 7:47:57 GMT
Not looking promising is it? As for India .... I think we should add an experienced batsman to the squad now. Off the top of my head perhaps Hildreth but somebody capable of playing a long innings. Currently the only alternatives to Balance are Hameed and Buttler. Fascinating match once more, and the biggest of opportunities for Duckett to prove himself. If he can, and Hameed can help stabilise the middle order thre might be some interesting matches ahead.
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 30, 2016 8:37:44 GMT
Memo: Do not spoonerise the words "Duckett's Fifty"
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Post by coverpoint on Oct 30, 2016 9:15:37 GMT
The collapse has started. My XI for next match would be: Cook, Hameed, Duckett, Root, Ali, Stokes, Bairstow, Woakes, Rashid, Batty, Broad.
Given how hard it is to bat and the lack of influence seam bowling has had Hameed should have played instead of Finn. Why drop Batty for Ansari when the former did so well in the first test?
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Post by leedsgull on Oct 30, 2016 11:23:40 GMT
I agree about Finn. They said they rotated Batty to look at Ansari. Pity they can't rotate Ballance back to England.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 14:59:16 GMT
"They got 30 too many runs" - Alastair Cook.
That's alright then.
Just think. If they hadn't got "30 too many" England would only have lost by 78 runs...
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Post by leedsgull on Oct 30, 2016 15:44:36 GMT
Congratulations to Bangladesh. They deserved to win and it was admirable that they did not let the disappointment of the narrow first test loss affect them negatively. I really hope that they get more test matches soon. I will be very interested to see how Australia get on if they tour next year. I suspect as badly as England. The one off test Bangladesh have against India will also be very interesting now.
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Post by fraudster on Oct 30, 2016 17:39:22 GMT
"They got 30 too many runs" - Alastair Cook. That's alright then. Just think. If they hadn't got "30 too many" England would only have lost by 78 runs... No they wouldn't. You're right about one thing though, black lives do matter - someone should tell black people.
Well done to the Deshis, they're a handful for anyone on home turf. We would wipe the floor with then in England mind. Apart from England's average spinners and flawed top order two things stood out for me. Bangladesh say cricket's huge, they want bigger games more regularly and their fans are mental - but there's only about a dozen of them, until it looks like they're gonna win, then another dozen turn up - *** glory hunters. Don't look so big there to me.
The other thing is hawk-eye. The trajectory prediction has troubled me for ages on this but no more so than on this tour. Numerous times it has clearly been wrong with impossible late swing, spin and seam all accounting for wrong decisions, as far as I can see. No wonder India don't like it, it's bull***t.
A final thought, nobody ever needs six bowlers. At least one is always under bowled. If we'd have played Buttler for Finn we'd have had a better chance of winning.
Look out India.
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