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Post by gmdf on Feb 2, 2017 10:11:56 GMT
So what have we learnt? Root must produce match winning innings not cameos if he is to be compared with the best. Stokes is neither a top batsman or bowler yet. Ali is possibly a better bowler than batsman in one day matches. The openers have no plan B, they just slog until they get out. Buttler needs to have a defined role in the batting order, probably at 5. Morgan has rediscovered his form and has cemented his place for the foreseeable future. None of the batsman can really play spin with any confidence and the bowlers are largely cannon fodder. Don't be so one-sided, lg. Apart from the fact that the batsmen can't bat and the bowlers can't bowl, it's all going very well!!!  From the reports on the games, some of the fielding wasn't too hot either...  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 11:40:09 GMT
Simon Hughes in The Times on the two white ball series defeats: "a triumph of India's brain over England's brawn."
He's particularly harsh on Jordan, whose lack of brain as a bowler is, he says "a concern". But he reckons Plunkett and Rashid's inability to think as they run up to bowl is almost as bad...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 11:58:40 GMT
And can anybody explain this apparent oxymoron from Morgan: "We weren’t good enough to win this series but I thought we produced performances that were potentially worthy of wins." So not good enough - yet at the same time "potentially" worthy of victory? How does that work? if India hadn't been better than England we would have deserved to win??? On that basis I am going to claim that when I was a left-arm opening bowler for North-West Kent schoolboys circa 1969-70, I was potentially worthy of going on to play for the Kent first XI - if only Norman Graham, John Dye, Alan Brown, Bob Woolmer, Asif Iqbal, John Shepherd, Bernard Julien and at least 100 others hadn't been better than me!  |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 2, 2017 14:20:35 GMT
For me, a deep concern is that England appear to have become entrenched in being able to beat top teams at home due to home
conditions but are highly likely to lose away to them.
While no-one in their right mind believed England could beat India in the Test series, there was optimism for the ODIs - especially the
T20s.
So, now we have the Windies which, surely, will be an embarrassingly easy formality, even if it is away; followed by the ICC ODI
Champions Trophy which, because it is at home, England have a fair chance of reaching the Finals; then a full-blown home
series against South Africa which again England are expected to win due to home conditions; followed by the Ashes down-under that,
once more, no-one gives England a chance in high water of winning. The bookies best odds are 8/11 Australia win and 13/2 for a draw.
This present one-dimensional cricket is not satisfying or edifying for the England cricket supporter. Whether you can blame this on
inexperience, poor coaching, or lack of talent is uncertain, but a great team - and perhaps there is one emerging - must be able
to win home and away against the top international sides in all conditions.
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Post by tigertiger on Mar 4, 2017 12:32:00 GMT
The Aussies appear to be demonstrating how weak our spin bowling is.
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