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Post by hhsussex on Jul 20, 2014 12:55:25 GMT
I seldom look on the official Surrey messageboard now (but then neither do Surrey fans - 53 members, 581 posts in all) but in an idle moment I've just looked there and come up with this corker: Dernbach to Sussex? "Got told by a Sussex member today that the rumour at the County Ground is that JD will be at Sussex next season."
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Post by wally on Jul 20, 2014 15:16:44 GMT
Would prefer Meaker who also is allegedly unhappy.
As Jonboy says we need some new blod. What has made it hard is those we have put faith in with longer contracts have really not delivered this season( anyon,Liddle,hatchett)
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Post by jonboy on Jul 20, 2014 15:23:59 GMT
Would prefer Meaker who also is allegedly unhappy. As Jonboy says we need some new blod. What has made it hard is those we have put faith in with longer contracts have really not delivered this season( anyon,Liddle,hatchett) And the first two are unlikely to get better At least Hatchett is of the age where he can improve |
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Post by wally on Jul 20, 2014 15:50:20 GMT
Would prefer Meaker who also is allegedly unhappy. As Jonboy says we need some new blod. What has made it hard is those we have put faith in with longer contracts have really not delivered this season( anyon,Liddle,hatchett) And the first two are unlikely to get better At least Hatchett is of the age where he can improve Once again that is true but ignores the fact that last season Anyon was excellent and two seasons ago Liddle was one of the leading one day bowlers in the country...don't ask me what went wrong...injury?voodoo? Hatchett on the other hand has flattered to deceive and not delivered on his early promise. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jul 20, 2014 16:15:20 GMT
Why the hell would we want Dernbach? I can think of a million players I would rather sign! Robinson should be assigned to a mental institution if he thinks Dernbach is the answer. To be quite frank if Dernbach is the answer then you have to ask what is the question.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 16:27:30 GMT
The talk at guildford today is that Kent also want him to replace Mark Davies who is retiring and Bollinger who won't be returning, but that he will only move to a div one side.
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Post by coverpoint on Jul 20, 2014 16:35:09 GMT
Is Dernbach in a position where he can say he only wants to join a division one county when he is not even good enough to get into a second division side? I can't think of any reason why we would want him but I think of a million reasons why we wouldn't!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 16:43:12 GMT
I asked surrey members and they said he's been injured. Came back two days ago in t20 and instantly got injured again and didn't bowl in the match. Otherwise he's still a first choice seamer and took 5 wkts in his last lvcc game I'm told
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Post by wally on Jul 20, 2014 16:45:10 GMT
Why the hell would we want Dernbach? I can think of a million players I would rather sign! Robinson should be assigned to a mental institution if he thinks Dernbach is the answer. To be quite frank if Dernbach is the answer then you have to ask what is the question. Now now Martyn...you said the same about Jordan anyon ,magoffin and Lewis ( and even Mushy)all of whom you described as surrey rejects. History has shown mark robinsons judgment to be be better than yours and yet you insist on being disrespectful to him and using intemperate language. It is easy to say sign proven players ..but Robinson has to find players who are not proven successes and get the best out of them...he has to take chances and it isn't always a success... anyways it is not at all likely at the moment that Jane will be signed and I would prefer Meaker... Let's wait and see who he signs and then criticise when it turns out unsuccessful like Miller. Don't have apoplexy yet. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jul 20, 2014 16:45:36 GMT
Like Sussex need another injury prone seamer! The problem with Dernbach is that the attitude and application isn't there. With Jordan and Magoffin it certainly is and through their own hard work and determination they have both been a huge success. He is just not a Sussex type of player. Magoffin, Anyon, Mushtaq and Lewis weren't at Surrey very long and so can hardly be described as Surrey rejects. Jordan had injuries. Reuniting Dernbach and Hamilton-Brown would not be wise. I too would rather sign Meaker.
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Post by hhsussex on Jul 20, 2014 16:52:00 GMT
I asked surrey members and they said he's been injured. Came back two days ago in t20 and instantly got injured again and didn't bowl in the match. Otherwise he's still a first choice seamer and took 5 wkts in his last lvcc game I'm told Not quite - he took 3/41 and 2/39 against Derbys, but then followed up with 1/69 against Leics, and in all has 14 at 47.71. The Surrey messageboard seemed to take the tone that he'd been dropped and there wasn't a lot of sympathy for him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 16:52:07 GMT
Surrey prepared to release him because they think in curran and dunn they have found a pair who can open the bowling for next ten yrs. Just repeating the goss from some very gossipy surrey members around me who seem to prefer gossiping to watching the cricket!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 17:04:10 GMT
Hh he broke down in first inns of leics match and then had a month on treatment table. According to surrey member Hugh sitting next to me. You know better than to believe the crap you read on message boards!
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Post by coverpoint on Jul 20, 2014 17:08:44 GMT
HH is right.
BATTING BOWLING FIELDING
Mt Inn Score Team Score How Out Fielder Bowler Ovs Mdns Runs Wkts Opp Score Ct St Match Date Match Id
1 1 0 237 c DD Masters TS Mills 22 3 84 1 306 Surrey v Essex 20 Apr 2014 f55606
11 2 38 1 258-4d
2 99-2 dnb 22 7 74 0 400-6d Surrey v Hampshire 27 Apr 2014 f55612
3 2 1 285 b DE Bollinger 26 5 95 2 435 Surrey v Kent 04 May 2014 f55624
3 24 203 st SW Billings AEN Riley 4.3 0 21 0 54-2
4 171-7 dnb 4 0 34 2 172-8 Surrey v Sussex 16 May 2014 tt4319
5 173-7 dnb 4 0 26 1 159-6 Surrey v Somerset 18 May 2014 tt4326
6 121-4 dnb 4 0 31 2 117-7 Surrey v Middlesex 30 May 2014 tt4359
7 4 0 206 c OB Cox JD Shantry 26 3 79 2 476 Surrey v Worcestershire 01 Jun 2014 f55654
240-5 dnb - - - -
8 151-6 dnb 3 0 30 0 155-5 Surrey v Essex 06 Jun 2014 tt4370
9 626-6d dnb 6.4 0 33 1 112 Surrey v Gloucestershire 09 Jun 2014 f55666
28 5 95 1 506-6
10 149-0 dnb 3 0 34 0 148-5 Surrey v Sussex 13 Jun 2014 tt4383
11 5 0 421 b MHA Footitt 15 3 41 3 153 1 Surrey v Derbyshire 15 Jun 2014 f55669
21-0 dnb 14 3 39 2 288
12 165-5 dnb 4 0 27 2 148-8 1 Surrey v Glamorgan 20 Jun 2014 tt4392
13 6 23* 522-9d no 14.4 3 69 1 271 Surrey v Leicestershire 22 Jun 2014 f55683
69-0 dnb - - - - 319
14 7 24* 157-8 no 152-7 Surrey v Gloucestershire 18 Jul 2014 tt4449
Matches Inns NO Runs HS Ave 50 100
14 7 2 72 24* 14.40 0 0
Balls Mdns Runs Wkts BB Ave Ct St
1271 34 850 21 3-41 40.47 2 0
Batting details
How out Number
bowled 2
caught 2
not out 2
stumped 1
Total 7
Bowling details
How out Number
bowled 4
caught 15
lbw 2
Total 21
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Post by wally on Jul 20, 2014 17:09:48 GMT
Like Sussex need another injury prone seamer! The problem with Dernbach is that the attitude and application isn't there. With Jordan and Magoffin it certainly is and through their own hard work and determination they have both been a huge success. He is just not a Sussex type of player. Magoffin, Anyon, Mushtaq and Lewis weren't at Surrey very long and so can hardly be described as Surrey rejects. Jordan had injuries. Reuniting Dernbach and Hamilton-Brown would not be wise. I too would rather sign Meaker. I would be surprised if we signed dernbach and if he came good....would have guessed that Harris and Meaker both had more potential.but I learned long ago that I don't know enough to have a strong opinion. I do recall wondering about why we signed mushy after he took no wickets for surrey against us in a match in which mark Davis took a six for. I think Chris Adams took credit for that. |
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