pudos
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Post by pudos on Jul 23, 2017 18:01:15 GMT
Well done to ground staff for getting the game going again. Exciting finish, just seemed last over we faltered by playing was not easy. Great to see Nash hit a 50, strike rate of 200. D/L did set us a tough target. Our bowling was poor at times in last ten overs, a little too wild.
As liquidskin said, good to see Mills bowl well. Was surprised Garton bowled toward the end as seems to be targeted, successfully.
I just sometimes don't get the negativity from some Sussex fans, some I know to be members (one of the reasons I avoid the Pavilion) Walked out behind 3 one called the ground staff 'disgraceful' for not getting pitch ready sooner and the others (after agreeing) spent the next few mins slating Nash, Mills and Taylor. North exit and couldn't squeeze past them in that walk to the gate!!
Odd day, hardly traditional even by 20/20 standards but fun.
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Post by flashblade on Jul 23, 2017 18:38:27 GMT
Well done to ground staff for getting the game going again. Exciting finish, just seemed last over we faltered by playing was not easy. Great to see Nash hit a 50, strike rate of 200. D/L did set us a tough target. Our bowling was poor at times in last ten overs, a little too wild. As liquidskin said, good to see Mills bowl well. Was surprised Garton bowled toward the end as seems to be targeted, successfully. I just sometimes don't get the negativity from some Sussex fans, some I know to be members (one of the reasons I avoid the Pavilion) Walked out behind 3 one called the ground staff 'disgraceful' for not getting pitch ready sooner and the others (after agreeing) spent the next few mins slating Nash, Mills and Taylor. North exit and couldn't squeeze past them in that walk to the gate!! Odd day, hardly traditional even by 20/20 standards but fun. Shame. Some folks don't realise what a thankless task the ground staff have. Please don't let a few ignorami turn you against the members in general! |
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pudos
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Post by pudos on Jul 23, 2017 18:43:43 GMT
Well done to ground staff for getting the game going again. Exciting finish, just seemed last over we faltered by playing was not easy. Great to see Nash hit a 50, strike rate of 200. D/L did set us a tough target. Our bowling was poor at times in last ten overs, a little too wild. As liquidskin said, good to see Mills bowl well. Was surprised Garton bowled toward the end as seems to be targeted, successfully. I just sometimes don't get the negativity from some Sussex fans, some I know to be members (one of the reasons I avoid the Pavilion) Walked out behind 3 one called the ground staff 'disgraceful' for not getting pitch ready sooner and the others (after agreeing) spent the next few mins slating Nash, Mills and Taylor. North exit and couldn't squeeze past them in that walk to the gate!! Odd day, hardly traditional even by 20/20 standards but fun. Shame. Some folks don't realise what a thankless task the ground staff have. Please don't let a few ignorami turn you against the members in general! No wont go that far, I do appreciate members are all for Sussex, just sometimes the moaners get to me, and maybe in a classic British way its moaners that are heard more frequently, and a little louder! Main reason I don't go to the Pavilion is dislike of the view. Next home game is a Friday I think, be interesting to see how much bigger the crowd will (hopefully) be. |
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nemmo
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Post by nemmo on Jul 23, 2017 19:24:47 GMT
The moaners do get a tad grating. Most of the ones I hear have grudges against certain players and will hold things against them even when they don't do anything wrong or (worse) aren't remotely near the ball. I suppose the choice is either sit in the pavilion and have the moaning or sit in the southwest stand and have your view interrupted all game by people who can't seem to sit still for more than a couple of balls.
Jordan's last two balls did cost us today. If those had been dots or singles the game would have looked very different. The ground staff did an excellent job of getting the pitch ready after the rain. Mills and Archer looked very good and were troubling the batsmen. Interesting that Mills went off after his first 2 overs and at the end of the spell. Careful management of his issues or a problem that isn't quite healed yet? I still think we are one batsman light and a bowler heavy. We seem to forget that Nash can turn his arm for 2 overs or so if necessary. Next game I would swap Garton/Weise for Salt.
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Post by liquidskin on Jul 23, 2017 19:46:43 GMT
Still can't chase then. 88 off 8 was it - I don't like to moan, as is well known I imagine but you gotta win that little DRS gift.
I'll say it again, Davis has stated that our balance is better with six bowlers. We have four batsmen and one bowler, usually Wiese, regularly bowling one over. The craziest thing is we have one of the best attacks in the comp, seam at least, so why six bowlers? I can't see how we're gonna win games with this batting line-up.
That was a bit moany actually but I never apologise. Sorry, it's just not me.
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Post by nemmo on Jul 23, 2017 20:50:30 GMT
I mean, I don't think that was a particularly easy chase on a damp pitch, but they should have got it. That said it shouldn't have been 88 and Chris Nash batted very well. Salt should come into the team for Weise or Garton. I'm sure Briggs and Nash can manage 4 overs between them. Also playing 4 seamers (and ones that are legitimately quick) does put us at serious risk of slower over rate penalties, especially at Hove where you tend to lose the ball often and the time added on doesn't always reflect. I suppose if the pitch is expected to turn then Beer comes in for the one of Weise or Garton that Salt isn't in for.
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Post by mrsdoyle on Jul 23, 2017 21:54:26 GMT
My first game this year. Well done ground staff, umpires and Sussex for 28 overs despite the weather.
I felt Jordan would not have gone for so many in the last over had it not been lashing down with rain, maybe he felt pressured to conclude the match so the covers could come on, the ball would also have been very wet by then.
The DL target was clearly about right as we nearly did it, what was wrong was allowing only 2 overs of power play, why can't it be 2.5 overs?
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Post by joe on Jul 24, 2017 9:12:53 GMT
8 runs needed off the last over with two set players at the crease and 8 wickets in hand? Unlucky with the throw from the boundary to deny us the winning run but only one point again. Mills came to the party more but went on and off the pitch a few times and never really looked comfortable but 43 runs from 3 overs is not good enough from Jordan an England specialist death bowler.
Yes some people do moan and I'm one of them. I moan because of the under-achievement I see game after game. On paper we have one of the strongest seam attacks in either division yet they never all fire in the same game. We have a world renowned batter in our captain and another who is often the star of the Big Bash but they don't always do it for Sussex. It's always one batter and one bowler who do well and often they are different from game to game. I'd just like to see all of them firing at the same time and we'd be unbeatable.
Onward to Friday and Middlesex at Hove. GOSBTS!
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Post by grandavefan on Jul 24, 2017 9:54:19 GMT
I find the whole selection policy odd.
6 bowlers makes sense. Why Wiese bowls 1 and no more and doesn't bat in the top 5?
Garton, expensive and only 1 wicket? Needs to be managed, chose games but not all of them. Burn out and injury to such a slight built quick bowler beckon.
We've seen them injured in the past and disappeared. Look after him.
Alternative, Beer, not only is he decent at this format but a good fielder and useful lower order batter.
Salt, showed on Friday his potential. Needs to be seriously considered. Alternative to Nash or Evans? (Two most vulnerable batters?)
Briggs, good against Hants but the rest, not so sure, looking at the figures they suggest he is equal to Beer? Is this another case of salary before form? For me both play.
is Wiese is an expensive folly, neither bowler or batter, just occupying a space in the team(s)?
If they want a 6th bowler, Nash should be practicing a bit more.
Like the 4 day team, some appear untouchable, others easily discarded.
More openness and flexibility in selection.
Finally, Jon Lewis appears to dictate bowling strategy/selection? I suggest he concentrates on getting his seamers bowling better lines, lengths and variations. CJ & GG far too expensive and wicketless. When he's mastered that discipline only then can he interfere in selection.
Until then leave selection to the coach & captain.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 24, 2017 10:33:05 GMT
joe,
I'd just like to see all of them firing at the same time and we'd be unbeatable.
On paper we have players who are easily good enough to be vying to win all three competitions, yet, we never made it to the QFs
of the RLC; and are struggling in the Championship and T20 to be contenders. Why is their no cohesion within the team and why
are some of our stand-out players not performing to their best abilities? Is this down to a Coach still finding his feet, perhaps?
The problem with Mark Davis is that he was so overshadowed and dominated by Robinson for 10 years, did Robbo give him
any opportunities to learn his trade as good No 1s offer their Assistant? I remember when Davis was appointed Coach a number of
supporters I spoke to had little idea who he was. That is how dominated Davis was.
The next difficulty was the choice of Wright as Captain. That has held back progress too after a season of injury and then the realisation
Wright should never have been appointed in the first place. During the golden decade we had a strong and inspirational Captain in Chris
Adams who was born to lead. I look at our side now and I see no home-grown cricketers with this attribute. Brown is the closest we have.
Throw in injuries; senior players underperforming; and youngsters who are learning on the hoof. It all seems rather chaotic and disparate.
The question is: How long will it take to find team cohesion and how long should a Head Coach be given to succeed or fail in this endeavour?
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Post by joe on Jul 24, 2017 11:19:22 GMT
joe, I'd just like to see all of them firing at the same time and we'd be unbeatable. On paper we have players who are easily good enough to be vying to win all three competitions, yet, we never made it to the QFs of the RLC; and are struggling in the Championship and T20 to be contenders. Why is their no cohesion within the team and why are some of our stand-out players not performing to their best abilities? Is this down to a Coach still finding his feet, perhaps? The problem with Mark Davis is that he was so overshadowed and dominated by Robinson for 10 years, did Robbo give him any opportunities to learn his trade as good No 1s offer their Assistant? I remember when Davis was appointed Coach a number of supporters I spoke to had little idea who he was. That is how dominated Davis was. The next difficulty was the choice of Wright as Captain. That has held back progress too after a season of injury and then the realisation Wright should never have been appointed in the first place. During the golden decade we had a strong and inspirational Captain in Chris Adams who was born to lead. I look at our side now and I see no home-grown cricketers with this attribute. Brown is the closest we have. Throw in injuries; senior players underperforming; and youngsters who are learning on the hoof. It all seems rather chaotic and disparate. The question is: How long will it take to find team cohesion and how long should a Head Coach be given to succeed or fail in this endeavour? Spot on! And that's why you are a journalist and I'm not! |
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Post by 2015t20everpresent on Jul 24, 2017 19:56:57 GMT
Alex Blake throws dagger through Shark's Heart Sundays extraordinary Nat West t20 Blast match at Hove came down to the very last ball. An afternoon swathed in rain, great cricket, hard work and breath taking moments ended in a point a piece. Both hosts Sussex and visitors Kent were probably disappointed. Early in the day it seemed that dry weather would accompany the match but that changed remarkably. Rain became inevitable and by 3.45pm it turned up with vengeance. But in the interim period Kent were sent out to bat against an ever improving Sharks attack. Bell Drummond (5) and Denly (16) struggled against Weise and Briggs as the power play came and went. Keeper Ben Brown played his part with a world class take down the leg side to dismiss Denly. As Sussex looked to take the initiative Kent batsman Billings (64) and Neesham (51) would have had travelling fans purring. In what seemed like a blink of an eye Kent smashed to all parts with Jordan and Garton coming in for major stick. With an excellent 176 for 4 under their wing Kent batsman left the field as heavy rain turned up. Not for the 1st time this season Hove ground crew were called into action and in no time Hove was immaculately under cover. Fans took shelter were ever they could. My friends and I choose the Palmeria for a beer and watch of England's ladies wining the World Cup (congrats to Mark Robinson and his squad). As time wore on it was a bit of a shock to hear that play would resume at Hove with Sussex needing 88 off 8 overs. A stiff ask to be honest. 19 off the 1st over and the result might of seemed a formality. However after his 150 in the 1st two games Luke Wright's 2017 t20 campaign is starting to unravel fast. His 13 runs (from 4 inns) since is starting to have an adverse effect on the teams overall performance. He connected well against a full length Neesham delivery but his lofted drive went straight to Blake who joyfully held on. That meant that Nash had to take the initiative. He (50 no) and Evans (23) carried the fight leading to two needed off the final ball. As the ground held its breath Nash punched a low drive down the ground. It looked as though we were home and hosed as Evans ran back to the bowlers end. But take a bow Alex Blake, from 30 yards he took aim and fired out middle stump and was deliriously mobbed by his team mates. Hove stunned ! It is a point towards quarter final qualification but post match I felt there was frustration in both camps that 2 points were very much on offer. For Sussex that's 5 points from six matches which still puts us very much in the hunt. Skipper Ross Taylor told me after the game 'I am really enjoying my time here at Sussex and this t20 competition. We are still looking to create some momentum which will get us into the quarter finals and beyond'. Sussex now have a few days to recover and prepare for the visit of Middlesex at HQ on Friday evening. Of that Head Coach Mark Davis said ' its been a tough little period with travelling and playing 3 games in 4 days. We will take a couple of days rest, get in the gym on Wednesday and a full days practice on Thursday' Sussex's 2017 Nat West Blast campaign is really starting to become very intense indeed. There should be no panic amongst the squad, officials, members and fans just yet. They just need to stick to the game plan and wins will naturally come their way. Plus indeed they are due a huge slice of luck ! I am still confident !         |
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