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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 31, 2017 16:50:20 GMT
de, Many thanks for your excellent write-up. Please post more! Here are the depressing highlights from yesterday. www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-On4sX1f40&feature=em-subs_digest-vrecsQ: Why do the Sussex seamers bowl too short in T20? Why is there not more variation? I remember criticising Chris Liddle for consistently bowling too short and now we have Garton mimicking him. While, Jordan can bowl magnificently in T20 when he wishes to his inconsistency has been all apparent this season. So why aren't the seamers learning? Is this down to Jon Lewis? Only Archer stands above. T20 batsmen have improved markedly during the last 4-5 years. Bowling short today usually means a 4 or 6. As mooted, Somerset officials were desperate to get beyond the 5 over mark due to a full house of 8,500 + all the problems surrounding the refund policy. |
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Post by flashblade on Jul 31, 2017 17:09:29 GMT
Fortunately I wasn't at the match, but by all accounts the weather conditions were quite ridiculous. The umpires must take sole responsibility for this, and if they succumbed to any pressures from the Somerset money men, then more fool them. I hope someone (SCCC ?) reports the umpires to the ECB. If those conditions were deemed acceptable, then it sets a very dangerous precedent for all future T20 matches in the UK. PS It's all S&F's fault - the umpires must have read his impassioned pleas to all these soft cricketers to play through the rain like footballers!  |
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Post by joe on Jul 31, 2017 19:00:56 GMT
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Archer didn't bowl particular well in this game, his 2 overs went for 22 runs with only 4 dot balls. Jordan was even worse with 24 off his 2 and only 2 dot balls, they both bowled too wide. There is a fine line between a Yorker and a full toss, a short pitched bouncer and a sitter. These are all skills that you would expect Jordan to execute consistently while Archer and Garton are still learning their craft. The 2 Garton wickets were from slower balls and Archers was from a short pitched bouncer which was well held by Brown.
What I'm getting at is it's unfair to blame the youngsters when the seasoned pros performed much worse. If Jordan, Mills and Wiese kept it tight and took wickets regularly then you'd be more forgiving of the younger guys and not pick them apart!
What I don't understand is why Taylor gave Garton 2 overs but Briggs only one and Beer none at all!
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Post by philh on Jul 31, 2017 19:36:22 GMT
This may be the shortest thread in the history of the messageboard. The weather looks abysmal with thunderstorms forecast. Finch and Robinson added to the squad, still no Wright or Mills. Well, you were wrong about it being short, joe |
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Post by 2015t20everpresent on Jul 31, 2017 21:37:36 GMT
Umpires Roll Dice at Taunton
Sussex's 8th match in the Nat West Blast T20 Blast campaign wasn't a happy one. Not for head coach Mark Davis, his troops, officials and in particular the few hardy Sharks fans who made the trip. It was miserable !
BBC weather charts always had rain in the forecast but as per the trips to Cheltenham and Cardiff that didn't put Paul and I from travelling. The trip down proved one of the easiest drives for Paul in his Corsa (33k on the clock). The M25 M4 and M5 all behaved themselves impeccably. Mind you we did happen across a stricken ambulance that was well ablaze on the north bound carriage of the M5. My twitter feed recording made the Daily Mirror and Daily Star webpage ! We arrived in Taunton under blue skies and in enough time to enjoy a meal in town.
About an hour before K.O. the first of many showers past over the Cooper Associates County Ground. No real problem at that time as it harmlessly swept by. However that seem to set the pattern for the next four hours. Dark rain clouds kept rolling in over St James Church steeple. Those clouds brought serious amounts of rain which fell for periods of 20 to 30 minutes and then glorious sunshine bathed the virtual full house. The ground staff were having one of those horrible days in the office. Covers on covers off.
Eventually after what seemed an eternity The Sharks marched out with ball in hand, Ross had won the toss, at 5.15 for an 8 over game. Will Beer took a fantastic catch out deep to dislodge Gregory for 7. However Somerset were determined to get very aggressive and promoted Corey Anderson to three. His 41 off 17 balls proved the killer blow. He hit 3 maximums including one that went over our heads and was nonchalantly pouched by a home fan on the top deck. The hosts went on to bludgeon 15 boundaries on route to 102 for 3. In amongst all that Ben Brown took another worldly behind stumps. He is having a great campaign
Whilst all that intense excitement was going on one might of not realised that heavy rain was falling. The umpires and players just seem to be getting on with things. No hint of a movement from the ground staff. It looked as though we were in for a finish come what may. Chris Nash hit two delicious technically correct shots in the first over. A cover drive and cut both for 4. However the inns become becalmed as Sussex lost wickets. Stiaan van Zyl carried the fight with a 42 not out opening knock but that was never enough. We ended up 32 runs short.
After several rain affected matches thus far it seemed quite refreshing to see the umpires give both teams the chance of picking up the much needed two points. The hosts adapted far better to the situation and ran out deserved winners.
Its an occasion for Sussex Cricket to quickly remove from the memory banks. We still have small matter of Nat West T20 Blast quarterfinal qualification to consider. The whole vibe moves back to the 1st Central County Ground on 3rd August when Surrey CCC make the trip south. Its an exciting prospect and perhaps we are now in must win territory. Lets get a massive crowd down there and cheer the Sharks on.
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Post by 2015t20everpresent on Jul 31, 2017 21:54:37 GMT
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 1, 2017 6:27:55 GMT
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 1, 2017 9:01:05 GMT
Ok chaps, you've made your point but there is a line drawn between playing in mizzle leading up to moderate rain and heavy rainfall.
It is down to the interpretation of the umpires. Obviously, at Taunton, the rainfall was beyond such levels and the umpires were at fault
for allowing play to continue primarily due to the pressure of a sellout crowd and the Somerset officials not wanting to become embroiled
in the commercial nightmare of refunds.
Q: Did Somerset CCC have rain insurance cover for this match? My understanding is that insurance for such matters amongst counties can
be patchy at best. If not, then Sussex have a legal as well as vested interest aspects to criticise too.
I do hope Sussex lodge an official complaint with the ECB and look at every angle of this story. If this is the future of T20 cricket then it is
obviously not acceptable. People may shout 'sour grapes', but I am sure if this had occurred to Somerset supporters, they would be feeling
as aggrieved as we are. If Sunday sets a precedent then I can see trouble at mill looming.
A thought: Should Mark Davis have walked out on to the pitch before the start of the 5th over when Taylor was batting to talk with the umpires?
Should our Coach have been more vocal and more dynamic in the matter as the match progressed? Even threatening to take the two batsmen
off the pitch?
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A.S.
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Post by A.S. on Aug 1, 2017 13:13:31 GMT
Back in 2014 (I think it was) in a televised t20 match at Canterbury, the Kent CEO strode onto the pitch and effectively called the players off the pitch. The umpires appeared not to demur.
The reason or reasons as I understood it, were because the wind speed had exceeded the safe limit for elevation of the floodlights and/or because there was lightning in the vicinity of which the umpires were unaware.
If the playing conditions cease to be safe and become a significant risk to health, then surely the position of the umpires, and the respective captains, coaches and CEO's vis a vis the players is, let us say, equivocal under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974.
Surely those other parties cannot just hide behind the decision of the umpires if the conditions become dangerous? There must come a stage when intervention by a responsible employer or owner of premises becomes not only justified, but a legal duty.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 1, 2017 14:26:56 GMT
I can think of some past cricket coaches who would have been far more vocal and dynamic than Sussex's Mark Davis. Obviously, Ross Taylor was furious with events. A nod from Davis and he would have walked off alongside Van Zyl in a jiffy. As AS suggests, sometimes you have to override the umpires judgment and make your own for the safety of those involved. What would have happened if a player had been seriously injured on Sunday and then sued. Who would be responsible: The Umpires, Somerset CCC, the team captains or the ECB? But then, hey, don't rock the boat. It's swings and roundabouts. Don't make a fuss. Don't bite the hand that feeds. www.youtube.com/watch?v=dndAXxqJbc0 |
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