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Post by mrsdoyle on Apr 8, 2024 17:52:41 GMT
I promise this is the last time I mention the floodlights. But ..... Yes, benefit of hindsight etc etc. But, the issue I have is that whoever made the decision, made it without a care for the paying public. Means we get to see less cricket;win, lose or draw. Brainless. If finances are that bad should have saved money elsewhere. Take a look in the mirror Filby. Well played Sussex v Northants. Pujara in for Carter and that's it for Leics away. Still think there is a bowling imbalance to the team, but based on what we have seen already no need to change anything yet. Correct! £150 per hour is not. Great deal of money in the great scheme of things.
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Post by coverpoint on Apr 8, 2024 18:14:04 GMT
I promise this is the last time I mention the floodlights. But ..... Yes, benefit of hindsight etc etc. But, the issue I have is that whoever made the decision, made it without a care for the paying public. Means we get to see less cricket;win, lose or draw. Brainless. If finances are that bad should have saved money elsewhere. Take a look in the mirror Filby. Well played Sussex v Northants. Pujara in for Carter and that's it for Leics away. Still think there is a bowling imbalance to the team, but based on what we have seen already no need to change anything yet. Correct! £150 per hour is not. Great deal of money in the great scheme of things. To all those complaining about floodlights. Are you willing to pay £2,000 per season for membership rather than £200? Or £200 a day rather than £20 a day? Electricity prices for businesses have incraased exponentially. Invidiauls have protected from the largest increases. Businesses haven't.
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Post by therealab1 on Apr 8, 2024 18:18:48 GMT
Correct! £150 per hour is not. Great deal of money in the great scheme of things. To all those complaining about floodlights. Are you willing to pay £2,000 per season for membership rather than £200? Or £200 a day rather than £20 a day? Electricity prices for businesses have incraased exponentially. Invidiauls have protected from the largest increases. Businesses haven't. When its would have cost them a grand for a victory i reckon its money well spent particularly given how much theyve slashed the wage bill.
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Post by joe on Apr 8, 2024 18:24:40 GMT
Or at least start at 10:30am in April.
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Post by squarepoint on Apr 8, 2024 19:08:30 GMT
An encouraging start to the season. The three biggest pluses for me were the return to prime form of Haines, the sublime all-round performance of Coles and the instant impact of Seales. Of course we won our opening game last year and then waited an age for our second win, so it wouldn’t do to get carried away but it leaves me very eager to see what’s to come.
This game also provided more evidence that Carson might be a better prospect with the bat than the ball. He needs to be given at least one more opportunity but if his bowling doesn’t improve very soon, it’s surely time to give Foreman a chance.
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Apr 8, 2024 21:39:47 GMT
To all those complaining about floodlights. Are you willing to pay £2,000 per season for membership rather than £200? Or £200 a day rather than £20 a day? Electricity prices for businesses have incraased exponentially. Invidiauls have protected from the largest increases. Businesses haven't. When its would have cost them a grand for a victory i reckon its money well spent particularly given how much theyve slashed the wage bill. Yes, we keep making all these cuts, but where’s it all going?
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Post by therealab1 on Apr 9, 2024 6:27:26 GMT
When its would have cost them a grand for a victory i reckon its money well spent particularly given how much theyve slashed the wage bill. Yes, we keep making all these cuts, but where’s it all going? Yep I dont even buy into the argument of 10.30 starts as an impact here or the rain taking 45 overs out of the first day, purely because they are things beyond our control we have zero say in that decision. The floodlights is our call and whether it wins you a game or loses you a game you are denying the paying public what theyve come to see. Even if they agreed a maximum of 20 hours it could be used in the CC home games (which i still think would be excessive) thats 3 grand. They are trying to attract people to the ground not put them off.
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Post by wrightstuff on Apr 9, 2024 7:02:50 GMT
Correct! £150 per hour is not. Great deal of money in the great scheme of things. To all those complaining about floodlights. Are you willing to pay £2,000 per season for membership rather than £200? Or £200 a day rather than £20 a day? Electricity prices for businesses have incraased exponentially. Invidiauls have protected from the largest increases. Businesses haven't. Okay. So we're told it costs £150 an hour. 7 home games equals a maximum of 28 days championship cricket. Some matches will finish early. Some will be played in blazing sunshine throughout. Other times it will rain: so off anyway. So, realistically how often will they be on: even if they have to stay on all day once they are on? Even being pessimistic, maybe 14 days at, say 5 hours (using the once on they must stay on rule) would equal, so that's £750 x 14 = £14,250. That's absolutely nothing compared to the players wage bill of around 1.5 million (the salary cap is now 2.9 million, so that's probably what Surrey are paying). But really, 15K is a drop in the ocean. No need for membership to go up to £2,000 to pay for it (a slight exaggeration on your part!)
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Post by bowledover on Apr 9, 2024 9:19:33 GMT
I'd be tempted to bring Hunt in to replace Lamb, having a left-arm seamer would add an extra dimension to the attack. But as sponge says, might be too early to start tweaking the team, and Lamb was useful.
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Post by theleopard on Apr 9, 2024 9:28:08 GMT
Correct! £150 per hour is not. Great deal of money in the great scheme of things. To all those complaining about floodlights. Are you willing to pay £2,000 per season for membership rather than £200? Or £200 a day rather than £20 a day? Electricity prices for businesses have incraased exponentially. Invidiauls have protected from the largest increases. Businesses haven't. Even the smallest football clubs manage, with their floodlights needing to be on for every night game plus day games in the winter and plus training under lights in the evening for semi-pro sides. Factoring in reserve, youth matches and so on the lights must often be on 4-5 times a week.
I can't find any articles about a crisis in costs for running them - there seemed to be a murmur about earlier kick offs in the autumn of 2022 which was quickly forgotten, and I am sure these clubs don't get £4 million a year each in support from the FA.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Apr 10, 2024 13:29:26 GMT
An interesting chat about the Hove floodlights.
First, Will Macpherson, the Telegraph cricket journalist, tweeted, "Sussex bid for opening Championship win cut short after floodlights deemed too expensive."
Yet, Adrian Harms followed this by writing, "If it’s any consolation the rain arrived with a vengeance 10 minutes after the game was called off."
So, Sussex's decision of not turning on the floodlights was saved by the rain!
Also, why has Paul Farbrace made the decision, not to use the lights this season? Surely, this is the new CEO, Peter Fitzboyden's, call. Talking of which, has anyone seen him at Hove? He hasn't been mentioned on the club's social media, for example. Andrew was a high profile CEO, Fitzboyden seems to be the complete opposite.
Is this a planned ploy by Filby?
As for saying the Hove floodlights are too expensive to use... is the Club that close to bankruptcy? I cannot suggest any other reason to make such a strange decision.
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Post by therealab1 on Apr 10, 2024 13:43:10 GMT
I had a chat with Fitzboyden on the first day, a very friendly bloke who loves the game. He spoke very honestly about improving communication and becoming more transparent.
Reading Wills article he acknowledges it was a club decision rather than Paul Farbraces.
You cant go bankrupt if you have no debt WC.
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Post by joe on Apr 10, 2024 14:55:20 GMT
Once our floodlights are switched on they have to stay on because it cost more for them to warm up than it does to keep them on. We don’t have LED bulbs as they do at Lords for example and it would cost £1m to change them. It was decided that the floodlights wouldn’t be used in the CC this year and that decision would be reviewed at the end of the season.
I read somewhere that we used the floodlights for around 130 overs last year.
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Post by kevininnessupersub on Apr 10, 2024 18:42:55 GMT
Haven’t seen the new CEO at Hove this week.
The point about not using the floodlights v Northants, is they could have been used everyday. The most critical one was on the 3rd day when FHP & DL were batting so well. It would have made using the floodlights on day 4 irrelevant.
Not using floodlights, isn’t helping to attract new supporters to the club. Nor is not having a club shop or on match days, having reception closed till lunchtime.
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Post by lovelyboy on Apr 10, 2024 19:04:27 GMT
Haven’t seen the new CEO at Hove this week. The point about not using the floodlights v Northants, is they could have been used everyday. The most critical one was on the 3rd day when FHP & DL were batting so well. It would have made using the floodlights on day 4 irrelevant. Not using floodlights, isn’t helping to attract new supporters to the club. Nor is not having a club shop or on match days, having reception closed till lunchtime. The club shop issue is absolutely bizarre. Have a look at other counties and the amount of merchandise you can buy from there club shops and then how little you can buy from ours. It’s just really odd
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