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Post by flashblade on Aug 20, 2021 14:50:32 GMT
Sadly, it's survival of the fittest. It might surprise everyone to note that I have been pointed as CEO of the ECB this morning. To win the job, I had to make a proposal about the future of English cricket. The key points of my proposal were as follows: - Expand The Hundred to 10 teams by adding South West Extravaganza and Northern Borderers to play at Bristol and Chester-le-Street respectively.
- Add fabulous new competitions, including The Fifty and The Twenty Five featuring the ten fabulous teams.
- After two years, rename the ten teams as follows - Oval Invincibles as Surrey, Welsh Fire as Glamorgan, South West Extravaganza as Gloucestershire... (you get the idea)
- Set up a new League for Derbyshire, Essex, Kent, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Somerset, Sussex, Worcestershire. Give this league a racy name like the English Cricket Championship.
- Give the English Cricket Championship autonomy to run its own affairs.
- Make generous diminishing payments to each member of the English Cricket Championship of £10 million for Year 1, £1 million for Year 2 and £20.99 from Year 3 onwards.
- Players appearing in the English Cricket Championship would not be allowed to appear in Hundred fixtures for a period of five years
- Only allow the English Cricket Championship to play 4-day games (or longer if they prefer)
My proposal was wholly accepted and my condition of being paid a huge undisclosed on completion in five years time.
philh - you are a true visionary!
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Post by flashblade on Aug 20, 2021 17:51:50 GMT
George Garton on fire for the Brave. 3 for 15 in powerplay.
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 22, 2021 5:16:49 GMT
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Post by flashblade on Aug 22, 2021 12:28:23 GMT
Test cricket hasn't suddenly become 'a shambles' since The Hundred was introduced. It's been going downhill in this country since red ball players lost the opportunity to play enough county cricket in preparation for test matches. That's a question of timetabling. However, if white ball cricket becomes even more dominant in future then test cricket could well be undermined further. Critics of The Hundred fear what it might do to the future of red ball cricket - quite rightly. But do these critics stop to evaluate the benefits of the Hundred? IMO, many are blinded to the entertainment quality, because they've decided that they don't like it - even if they haven't watched it. So, there are 2 contradictory issues here. Most things in life evolve over time, including cricket. If something you like evolves in such a way that you begin to go off it, then you can become semi-detached, or even completely detached from it. What you can't do is insist that it remains static because 'that's how I like it'. You either evolve with it, or you become detached. The gradual fall in membership numbers at Sussex (and probably at certain other counties) reflects those who've detached themselves from the game. On the other hand, white ball attendances have grown as people are attracted by the entertainment and excitement provided by the shorter formats. Cricket has evolved, and is now televised to an extent unheard of before white ball cricket was introduced. The Hundred is the next evolutionary step IMO. Cricket needs as much support as it can get, and the future can't be determined by county members. The amount that members contribute financially to the game is insignificant in the overall context.
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Post by joe on Aug 22, 2021 13:51:51 GMT
Test cricket hasn't suddenly become 'a shambles' since The Hundred was introduced. It's been going downhill in this country since red ball players lost the opportunity to play enough county cricket in preparation for test matches. That's a question of timetabling. However, if white ball cricket becomes even more dominant in future then test cricket could well be undermined further. Critics of The Hundred fear what it might do to the future of red ball cricket - quite rightly. But do these critics stop to evaluate the benefits of the Hundred? IMO, many are blinded to the entertainment quality, because they've decided that they don't like it - even if they haven't watched it. So, there are 2 contradictory issues here. Most things in life evolve over time, including cricket. If something you like evolves in such a way that you begin to go off it, then you can become semi-detached, or even completely detached from it. What you can't do is insist that it remains static because 'that's how I like it'. You either evolve with it, or you become detached. The gradual fall in membership numbers at Sussex (and probably at certain other counties) reflects those who've detached themselves from the game. On the other hand, white ball attendances have grown as people are attracted by the entertainment and excitement provided by the shorter formats. Cricket has evolved, and is now televised to an extent unheard of before white ball cricket was introduced. The Hundred is the next evolutionary step IMO. Cricket needs as much support as it can get, and the future can't be determined by county members. The amount that members contribute financially to the game is insignificant in the overall context. Absolutely spot on!
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Post by liquidskin on Aug 22, 2021 14:05:17 GMT
That's about the size of it Flash. I was against it, but firstly it's been very entertaining and secondly, and because of that, it's here to stay. They've got a lot of things right with this, it's been a huge success, the best domestic tournament I've ever seen. It'll do wonders for participation amongst youth. One area they need to look at is full participation of England players. It's only a three week tournament so it has to be do-able.
Not happy about the teams of the tournament though. Not a single Brave bowler in the best eleven. Garton was phenomenal in the two biggest games, that should go down very well with England. Mills and Garton should be in the tournament team and the England T20 team.
There's a way to really help with all this heavy scheduling I think. Shorten the Blast to the same size as the Hundred and play games more frequently. Every other day - it's only 40 overs, tops. We could have both tournaments done and dusted in six weeks between about mid July and late August.
Up the Braves, I guess.
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 22, 2021 14:41:14 GMT
Any change needs a two thirds majority which probably means Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Northants, Kent, Sussex and Worcestershire falling by the wayside.
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Post by joe on Aug 22, 2021 16:03:23 GMT
A couple of things I’d like to see adopted from the 100 for the Blast are 1. On field penalties for slow over rate. 2. Incoming batter is on strike regardless of whether they crossed or not, reward the bowler.
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Post by flashblade on Aug 22, 2021 18:38:51 GMT
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Post by nemmo on Aug 22, 2021 19:12:56 GMT
One of the big issues has been that certain franchises have basically been taken over by counties. This was one of Sussex's concerns before they agreed to the contest/bribe money and something that has unfortunately played out. Compare the number of Hampshire players in the Southern Brave squad (even before the Dawson injury) to the number of Notts players in the Trent Rockets squad or the amount of Surrey Players in the invincible squad.
There is a massive conflict of interest here. The ECB clearly tried to avoid it by getting in overseas/external coaches for all the teams but the support staff was largely made up of county representatives. Chapple is both the head coach of Lancs and on the staff of the Manchester Franchise. I have heard there was also skullduggery with Topley's draft pick being influenced by the Surrey signing ("we'll give you a certain slot in return signing") which is really bad. If it's going to go down this route the ECB should just add another side then have all of the franchises be formal partnerships between 2 counties rather than allowing Lancs, Surrey and Notts to take over the franchises at their grounds.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2021 12:28:52 GMT
There's a way to really help with all this heavy scheduling I think. Shorten the Blast to the same size as the Hundred and play games more frequently. Every other day - it's only 40 overs, tops. We could have both tournaments done and dusted in six weeks between about mid July and late August. What I've enjoyed about The Hundred is the proper scheduling, something to watch at a convenient time every day of the tournament and very little fixture clashing except the odd Sunday. The Blast is all over the place & infuriating with all the games crammed into 2/3 days of the week with each county featuring only a few times on Sky with wobbly streamed footage as your only alternative. Presumably if the counties had their way they'd only play on a Friday night as that's most chance of a sell out but it seems madness from a TV coverage point of view to have days with no games and then the next day 7-8 games.
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Post by flashblade on Aug 23, 2021 13:47:03 GMT
There's a way to really help with all this heavy scheduling I think. Shorten the Blast to the same size as the Hundred and play games more frequently. Every other day - it's only 40 overs, tops. We could have both tournaments done and dusted in six weeks between about mid July and late August. What I've enjoyed about The Hundred is the proper scheduling, something to watch at a convenient time every day of the tournament and very little fixture clashing except the odd Sunday. The Blast is all over the place & infuriating with all the games crammed into 2/3 days of the week with each county featuring only a few times on Sky with wobbly streamed footage as your only alternative. Presumably if the counties had their way they'd only play on a Friday night as that's most chance of a sell out but it seems madness from a TV coverage point of view to have days with no games and then the next day 7-8 games. Yes, I was pleasantly surprised at the way The Hundred was so professionally presented. The Blast looks a bit haphazard by comparison, and it'll never get the same audiences if it's played over a 3-4 week period - it won't have the benefit of the school holidays. I'm not sure what to suggest.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 23, 2021 14:06:49 GMT
Fb, Yes, I was pleasantly surprised at the way The Hundred was so professionally presented. The Blast looks a bit haphazard by comparison, and it'll never get the same audiences if it's played over a 3-4 week period...Goodness me, have you been walking on the cricketing road to Damascus? I have thoroughly enjoyed watching the 100 and, of course, been supporting the Southern Brave. What a side and with no Archer either. The sheer class of de Kock, the power of Stirling, the consistency of Vince and the outstanding Jordan, Mills and Garton. Those three were quite superb and if they can pass their form on to the T20 QF tomorrow, Sussex should have a good chance of winning. Imho, Mills and Jordan are the best two death bowlers in English cricket, right now. As for the 100, given the background of Covid, a great success especially for the Women's game. Their Final at Lord's attracted over 17,000 people. Compare this to the Aussie BBL of 5,500. Overall, kudos to the ECB for the courage shown in adversity. It may take Lord's some months to recover from the music, general theatrics and hullabaloo... and wasn't the crowd catching a higher class to the T20?
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Post by flashblade on Aug 23, 2021 14:53:17 GMT
Fb, Yes, I was pleasantly surprised at the way The Hundred was so professionally presented. The Blast looks a bit haphazard by comparison, and it'll never get the same audiences if it's played over a 3-4 week period...Goodness me, have you been walking on the cricketing road to Damascus? I have thoroughly enjoyed watching the 100 and, of course, been supporting the Southern Brave. What a side and with no Archer either. The sheer class of de Kock, the power of Stirling, the consistency of Vince and the outstanding Jordan, Mills and Garton. Those three were quite superb and if they can pass their form on to the T20 QF tomorrow, Sussex should have a good chance of winning. Imho, Mills and Jordan are the best two death bowlers in English cricket, right now. As for the 100, given the background of Covid, a great success especially for the Women's game. Their Final at Lord's attracted over 17,000 people. Compare this to the Aussie BBL of 5,500. Overall, kudos to the ECB for the courage shown in adversity. It may take Lord's some months to recover from the music, general theatrics and hullabaloo... and wasn't the crowd catching a higher class to the T20? Yes, I have, actually. See my 'signature' line, below.
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 24, 2021 9:22:22 GMT
The ECB really ARE pigs with their snouts in the trough! Senior ECB executives to share £2.1m bonus despite Covid job cuts CEO Harrison and Hundred MD Patel among recipients Body says it is a ‘retention tool for key senior leaders’ www.theguardian.com/sport/20...covid-job-cuts
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