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Post by surreysteve on Jun 23, 2022 21:03:49 GMT
Well played guys. We blew it some awful batting.
Hope you manage to qualify for the quarter finals.
We won’t win it now anyway as the good old ECB
have decided to play the quarter finals and finals day
in the middle of Englands white ball matches v India.
So we will be missing loads of players again oh well.
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Jun 23, 2022 21:09:17 GMT
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Post by sponge on Jun 23, 2022 21:19:42 GMT
Well done Sussex.
A win is a win.
The Delray enigma continues.
Can he learn how to play red ball.
Nothing I saw tonight though changes my opinion that radical change is needed for our T20.
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Post by wiseman on Jun 23, 2022 21:28:37 GMT
Well done Sussex. A win is a win. The Delray enigma continues. Can he learn how to play red ball. Nothing I saw tonight though changes my opinion that radical change is needed for our T20. Sponge agree with your post, nonetheless a welcome victory and a great performance from Delray with the ball,the bat and a couple of great stops fielding wise.JK stick with this line up As solid. |
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Post by devonexile on Jun 23, 2022 21:33:02 GMT
Well done Sussex. A win is a win. The Delray enigma continues. Can he learn how to play red ball. Nothing I saw tonight though changes my opinion that radical change is needed for our T20. Can't help but fully agree with your last point Sponge. It has not been a great campaign and tonight's win just papers over the cracks. However, tonight is a night to enjoy a rare win this season, even more given the opposition. The bigger questions and concerns can wait for another time. Interesting observation though is that is the third time this season we have broken an opposition's unbeaten record. The other win coming against the current T20 champions. Just makes you think what might have been achieved. |
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Post by liquidskin on Jun 23, 2022 21:54:59 GMT
We were very fluid those days weren't we Ash. Plays havoc with the mind. Some great names for nostalgia there for me, amongst other things. The late 90s was when I started following Sussex somewhat properly after being a kid-fan from afar in the latter days of Parker, the Wells', Dodemaide & the like. The only name I can't place there is NR Taylor - who's that?
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 23, 2022 22:34:18 GMT
Jordan looked a jinxed man tonight. Obviously, felt uncomfortable being back
at Hove. Apart from his abject bowling, his 'running himself out' was quite
spectacular, where it was apt the man responsible for knocking down the
stumps was Sussex captain Bopara.
Great evening. The crowd were in good voice. Too little too late, but
still enjoyable to watch.
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Post by philh on Jun 24, 2022 5:39:20 GMT
My takeaways from last night’s game:
1) Judging a player or a team on one T20 game is ridiculous.
2) Duckworth Lewis know less about T20 cricket than my great aunt.
3) Jacks and Rizwan batted well
4) it’s lucky that we offloaded Jordan
5) Rawlins and Garton batted well
6) In T20, some things go better than you can ever imagine
7) In T20, some things go worse than you can ever imagine
8) We deserve to qualify for the knockouts as much as any other team
9) We don’t deserve to qualify for the knockouts
10) I nearly left when Surrey wanted 50 to win. (Actually, I didn’t but the thought crossed my mind and it rarely does)
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Post by philh on Jun 24, 2022 5:59:20 GMT
Oh, and why did George Garton bowl the first over? Hi
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Post by sponge on Jun 24, 2022 6:16:23 GMT
Oh, and why did George Garton bowl the first over? Hi Why indeed Phil. It clearly shows muddled thinking by Kirtley and co. In successful T20 teams everyone knows their role and responsibility. In ours, batters move up and down the order and bowlers bowl at different stages. It seems to me that the only consistency is the big overseas get to do exactly what they want. We have some quality home grown players waiting; get them in sensibly and look to the future. Kirtley needs to step aside; he couldn't even "man up" and apologise for the second XI T20 debacle where we missed out on a finals day at Arundel;disgrace. |
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Jun 24, 2022 8:01:50 GMT
We were very fluid those days weren't we Ash. Plays havoc with the mind. Some great names for nostalgia there for me, amongst other things. The late 90s was when I started following Sussex somewhat properly after being a kid-fan from afar in the latter days of Parker, the Wells', Dodemaide & the like. The only name I can't place there is NR Taylor - who's that? Good response!😀 Similar to me then, my first game was in 1989 and my first membership was in 1994. NR Taylor is Neil Taylor - signed from Kent during the revolution close-season of 1996/7, but prior to the revolution. Held our batting together in 1997, didn’t play as much in 1998 and was released at which point he retired. |
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Post by joe on Jun 24, 2022 8:02:46 GMT
He bowled the first over because he’s a swing bowler and if there’s any swing to be had it’s in the first 1 or 2. He opened the bowling every game last year and got plenty of power play wickets. He was obviously rusty last night and was rightly taken out of the attack but to be fair every bowler was spanked by Jacks.
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Post by devonexile on Jun 24, 2022 9:23:15 GMT
He bowled the first over because he’s a swing bowler and if there’s any swing to be had it’s in the first 1 or 2. He opened the bowling every game last year and got plenty of power play wickets. He was obviously rusty last night and was rightly taken out of the attack but to be fair every bowler was spanked by Jacks. A really good point as always Joe. The logic makes complete sense, but on the other side given there have been serious questions not only over his fitness, his poor form and lack of bowling this season and only a couple of games ago his inclusion in the squad had the caveat 'included only as a batsman', you can sort of understand the raised eyebrows. Add to that the unusual step of Rashid bowling in the powerplay last night (which I believe he wouldn't normally do) and Delray not, it all adds to the confusion. Sponge is spot on, a good proper functioning team is where you have a plan and everyone knows their role. Not a plan cast in stone, but one that is tweaked according to circumstances or a given match situation. Unfortunately rightly or wrongly, you get the distinct impression we haven't had a plan this season and we are just trying things 'off the hoof' or worse still making it up as we go along. Team selections, batting orders, bowling changes all support this strong suspicion. It is easy to criticise and again in fairness to Ravi the captaincy was really thrust upon him given Luke's eleventh hour resignation, but his leadership and that of the Head Coach understandably warrant suitable scrutiny come the end of the campaign. Also, interesting to note how involved Rizwan appeared to be in organising things last night. I appreciate that is a role many wicket keepers become involved in when adjusting field placings, but from the live stream he appeared to be the man on control. |
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Post by philh on Jun 24, 2022 10:08:21 GMT
He bowled the first over because he’s a swing bowler and if there’s any swing to be had it’s in the first 1 or 2. He opened the bowling every game last year and got plenty of power play wickets. He was obviously rusty last night and was rightly taken out of the attack but to be fair every bowler was spanked by Jacks. A really good point as always Joe. The logic makes complete sense, but on the other side given there have been serious questions not only over his fitness, his poor form and lack of bowling this season and only a couple of games ago his inclusion in the squad had the caveat 'included only as a batsman', you can sort of understand the raised eyebrows. Add to that the unusual step of Rashid bowling in the powerplay last night (which I believe he wouldn't normally do) and Delray not, it all adds to the confusion. Sponge is spot on, a good proper functioning team is where you have a plan and everyone knows their role. Not a plan cast in stone, but one that is tweaked according to circumstances or a given match situation. Unfortunately rightly or wrongly, you get the distinct impression we haven't had a plan this season and we are just trying things 'off the hoof' or worse still making it up as we go along. Team selections, batting orders, bowling changes all support this strong suspicion. It is easy to criticise and again in fairness to Ravi the captaincy was really thrust upon him given Luke's eleventh hour resignation, but his leadership and that of the Head Coach understandably warrant suitable scrutiny come the end of the campaign. Also, interesting to note how involved Rizwan appeared to be in organising things last night. I appreciate that is a role many wicket keepers become involved in when adjusting field placings, but from the live stream he appeared to be the man on control. I quite liked the idea of Rashid being pushed into the powerplay as a one-off. At that stage, it needed someone to do something remarkable and Rashid was possibly the one who could eke out the likes of Jacks and Evans. I thought Bopara handled his bowlers really well last night. I assume the decision to give Garton the first over was a management decision. I am not sure we should have a rigid game play. T20 games, as we saw last night, can lurch heavily one way or the other on one good/bad over. A good captain making good decisions on the fly can make all the difference. Garton and Rawlins got us to a respectable score, but I thought it was still short of the mark. Surrey lost wickets at times when another ten runs without losing a wicket would have made all the difference. Jacks and Evans, for example, departed just in time. I don't think Duckworth Lewis had us ahead until the 9th wicket went down - and, mostly, by a 20-30 run margin. Some comeback. |
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Post by therealab1 on Jun 24, 2022 10:11:31 GMT
Not entirely convinced Garton is known for his swing bowling. Pace and back off a length bowling is his normal style
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