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Post by therealab1 on Dec 28, 2023 7:14:03 GMT
The umpire does not have that right Joe he has no right at all to use to physical force no one has. Tom Curran knows he shouldnt have done it and thats right, i listened to on air stump mic an Aussie call an umpire "a ***ing jumped up little prick you know your ***ing wrong thats why you're walking away you little prick" wheres his ban?
Had the umpire not stood there and Tom Curran refused his orders and continued to run he would have and should have been removed from the game, the umpires are there to ensure the laws of cricket are upheld but this doenst mean physically.
Another example of this bonkers society we live in now!
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Post by wrightstuff on Dec 28, 2023 9:04:27 GMT
The umpire DID NOT use physical force.
It was Curran's choice to charge in towards him.
This was after ignoring an instruction from the umpire when they were at the other end that he must not do it.
The umpire is there to enforce the rules.
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 28, 2023 9:25:57 GMT
He attempted to use physical force by providing a blockade - language used like Charging isnt true - its there to make things sound worse. he carried on doing his normal run up and moved out of the way, the umpire didnt if anyone was attempting intimidation it was the umpire. Yes Tom Curran shouldnt have done it yes he should have been reprimanded and that applies to the umpire too. A quiet word to the umpire to not put himself in that situation and a sterner warning to Curran to stop being a bell end in future. The notion that he should be banned for a long period of time is insanity.
Listen to stump mic, listen to how they speak to the umpires. Would you ban everyone that swears at an umpire? NAthan Ellis i heard call an umpire a "Fcuking jumped up little prick thats walking away cos he knows hes ***ing wrong" is that a ban? its worse than Curran.
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Post by wrightstuff on Dec 28, 2023 9:35:24 GMT
So, if a policeman stands in the road with his arm up, signalling for me to stop, and I run him over, it's the policeman's fault for standing in the middle of the road, attempting to use force to get me to stop.
I must remember that one, just in case I ever need it as a defence.
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Post by wrightstuff on Dec 28, 2023 9:35:40 GMT
So, if a policeman stands in the road with his arm up, signalling for me to stop, and I run him over, it's the policeman's fault for standing in the middle of the road, attempting to use force to get me to stop. I must remember that one, just in case I ever need it as a defence.
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Post by joe on Dec 28, 2023 9:56:57 GMT
He attempted to use physical force by providing a blockade - language used like Charging isnt true - its there to make things sound worse. he carried on doing his normal run up and moved out of the way, the umpire didnt if anyone was attempting intimidation it was the umpire. Yes Tom Curran shouldnt have done it yes he should have been reprimanded and that applies to the umpire too. A quiet word to the umpire to not put himself in that situation and a sterner warning to Curran to stop being a bell end in future. The notion that he should be banned for a long period of time is insanity. Listen to stump mic, listen to how they speak to the umpires. Would you ban everyone that swears at an umpire? NAthan Ellis i heard call an umpire a "Fcuking jumped up little prick thats walking away cos he knows hes ***ing wrong" is that a ban? its worse than Curran. When bowlers do their pre match run ups they stop short of the popping crease, they do not run through it. Curran was wrong on so many counts, the umpire was right. The End. Stop trying to be controversial on every issue, it’s getting tiresome.
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 28, 2023 10:15:23 GMT
So, if a policeman stands in the road with his arm up, signalling for me to stop, and I run him over, it's the policeman's fault for standing in the middle of the road, attempting to use force to get me to stop. I must remember that one, just in case I ever need it as a defence. Thats the police mate, they have that right - ridiculous defence and i saw it coming!
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 28, 2023 10:19:50 GMT
He attempted to use physical force by providing a blockade - language used like Charging isnt true - its there to make things sound worse. he carried on doing his normal run up and moved out of the way, the umpire didnt if anyone was attempting intimidation it was the umpire. Yes Tom Curran shouldnt have done it yes he should have been reprimanded and that applies to the umpire too. A quiet word to the umpire to not put himself in that situation and a sterner warning to Curran to stop being a bell end in future. The notion that he should be banned for a long period of time is insanity. Listen to stump mic, listen to how they speak to the umpires. Would you ban everyone that swears at an umpire? NAthan Ellis i heard call an umpire a "Fcuking jumped up little prick thats walking away cos he knows hes ***ing wrong" is that a ban? its worse than Curran. When bowlers do their pre match run ups they stop short of the popping crease, they do not run through it. Curran was wrong on so many counts, the umpire was right. The End. Stop trying to be controversial on every issue, it’s getting tiresome. To reiterate yes i said what he did was stupid but my point was and is the ban was too long. You disagree thats fine and say he should be banned longer and im asking you to justify that with some facts and comparison to other cases, you dont like Curran as youve said and that seems to be your only reasoning for a long ban, stick to debate rather than personal jibes. To add disagreeing isnt being controversial! I genuinely believe if i said the sky was blue you'd disagree and call e controversial.
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Post by wrightstuff on Dec 28, 2023 13:01:43 GMT
So, if a policeman stands in the road with his arm up, signalling for me to stop, and I run him over, it's the policeman's fault for standing in the middle of the road, attempting to use force to get me to stop. I must remember that one, just in case I ever need it as a defence. Thats the police mate, they have that right - ridiculous defence and i saw it coming! The umpire also has the right. If no action had been taken, you would have all players, including kids at primary school, thinking it is perfectly acceptable to behave like that. it isn't. If anything, he got off lightly.
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 28, 2023 13:38:04 GMT
I agree, im not disputing that action had to be taken but they were both being petulant thats the thing. Im not defending Curran but on the same token as you say about primary school kids if we we have umpires being physically threatening it also opens a can of worms.
Thank you for debating sensibly, no harm in disagreeing just keep it to the dbeate rather than needless personal insults and jibes.
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 29, 2023 8:53:01 GMT
A swipe at the outgoing CEO from Chris Adams on X last night. My hope is the new CEO is given the necessary backing from the Board to set out a clear vision and then the facility to implement said vision. I also hope he communicates adequately with the supporters and when the going gets tough they front it out rather than hide away and allow others to shield the flack like Rob Andrew did on far too many occassions.
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 31, 2023 15:32:31 GMT
Tried doing a bit of nosing in to where we are at in the CEO recruitment process and apparently the shortlist has been finalised.
Nothing positive to report on new signings either although it was said Farby doesnt say alot to anyone regarding these things until its all but announced.
At the risk of being described as controversial I still think we have a strong enough squad to achieve the ultimate aim of promotion from Div 2 but not replacing Ali Orr will look a bit foolish in my eyes.
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Post by therealab1 on Jan 2, 2024 7:55:56 GMT
Adams bemoaning on X about being overlooked for the CEO's job. It's a very different job now to one that would have been in his time, you need a strong commercial background now so I'm surprised he even applied for it let alone be disappointed he wasnt considered.
Ive mixed opinions on the entitlement to a job role for a former player but in Adams case I must say i find it slightly odd he hasnt been offered any kind of position at the club given the amount of opportunities granted to other former players. An example is he would have been a better predeccesor to Robbo than Mark Davis.
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Post by sponge on Jan 2, 2024 9:42:52 GMT
Adams bemoaning on X about being overlooked for the CEO's job. It's a very different job now to one that would have been in his time, you need a storng commercial background now so I'm surprised he even applied for it let alone be disappointed he wasnt considered. Ive mixed opinions on the entitlement to a job role for a former player but in Adams case I must say i find it slightly odd he hasnt been offered any kind of position at the club given the amount of opportunities granted to other former players. An example is he would have been a better predeccesor to Robbo than Mark Davis. Adams was on the Cricket Committee which he chose to resign from. He could have remained and tried to get the Committee working for the benefit of the Club. If he is moaning on social media about being overlooked for the CEO role; this confirms he wasn't the correct individual for the job. Rather than sit on the sidelines moaning, why couldn't he offer his services to Farbrace and the players. I'm sure he has lots of useful advice in the area of good Captaincy.
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Post by therealab1 on Jan 2, 2024 10:04:03 GMT
Adams bemoaning on X about being overlooked for the CEO's job. It's a very different job now to one that would have been in his time, you need a storng commercial background now so I'm surprised he even applied for it let alone be disappointed he wasnt considered. Ive mixed opinions on the entitlement to a job role for a former player but in Adams case I must say i find it slightly odd he hasnt been offered any kind of position at the club given the amount of opportunities granted to other former players. An example is he would have been a better predeccesor to Robbo than Mark Davis. Adams was on the Cricket Committee which he chose to resign from. He could have remained and tried to get the Committee working for the benefit of the Club. If he is moaning on social media about being overlooked for the CEO role; this confirms he wasn't the correct individual for the job. Rather than sit on the sidelines moaning, why couldn't he offer his services to Farbrace and the players. I'm sure he has lots of useful advice in the area of good Captaincy. the thing he is also forgetting is just how much the game has changed in recent years. What made a successful side even as recent as 6 or 7 years ago wouldnt work in the current cricket climate.
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