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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 19, 2014 11:19:34 GMT
I agree, in hindsight Sussex should have fielded first. They won the toss and elected to bat instead. A breakdown of communication and understanding between club captain/coach and the club marketing/commercial department.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2014 11:22:05 GMT
Argus says just less than 5000 there yesterday, so roughly the same number as Friday night, as FB reported yesterday. A significant component of yesterday's attendance were Sussex Standard members, who get free entry to tourist games, but not to normal T 20 games. From my limited nimber of acquantancies. i know of six Standard members attending yesterday, who do not normally attend T20 games irrespective of the day.
A double header will attract more people as fans are prepared to travel further for two games than for one. I would have gone on Sat but for a prior arrangement, even though I would have had a ninety minute journey. I would never contemplate such a journey for one T20 game alone. The same logic explains why there are three games at Final's Day. NB the admission fee for the double header was by no means double the normal T20 entrance, so not obvious Middles have earned more money than if there were two separate games. But I hope there are more double headers in future, as I like the concept.
Geoffrey Dean in the Times reported a very good crowd at Northants CC game yesterday, so maybe the good weather will bring goodish attendances on Sundays.
IMO far too early to try to draw any conclusions about the new schedule. Why not just enjoy the feast of cricket around at present.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2014 12:09:08 GMT
Why not just enjoy the feast of cricket around at present. Indeed if it is played at weekends and in daylight hours so that everyone can enjoy it. But many will not not enjoy the liquid feasting with a bunch of drunks on a Friday night. BTW, soft&fluffy did not say the crowd yesterday was the same size as Friday night; he said it was at least 1000 more - and I'd rather trust s&f than the Argus any day!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2014 12:33:21 GMT
Well of course BM you are entitled to believe who you like, especially if it helps make your argument! Not sure you always like to take S&F's judgement. You often agree with FB, who reported above, a marginally lower crowd than Friday. My judgement, for what its worth, roughly the same numbers. The Argus figure was very precise, ie something like 4986, so suggests to me they were given the number by a club official.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 19, 2014 13:19:52 GMT
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he said it was at least 1000 more - and I'd rather trust s&f than the Argus any day!!!
Thank you for your support. I spoke to several stewards at the gate who told me the crowd was higher than Friday evening and by more than 1,000. I also heard varying figure reports for Friday from 4,600 up to 5,500.
I question whether attendance figures are ever accurate at Hove. We are told that Sussex use the antiquated "clicker" system which relies on the stewards' eyes, fingers and whatever else. Surely, until a fully automated system is installed, which the club say is too expensive to house at Hove, we will never know an accurate number.
My experience of journalists in the media box is when an immediate report is required for publishing they scan the crowd, come up with a guestimate, fire this figure at other journos for their views, and if there are a few nods write it down. For an afternoon/evening game, it can take the media officer until the following morning to have an official attendance figure to hand yet, to repeat, how accurate is this, anyway?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2014 13:45:43 GMT
Perhaps Sussex was just a pawn in Team England's bigger game. Peter Moores: "Hey Robbo, we don't want your boys bowling the Sri Lankan top six into form before Tuesday. Can you ensure that you give them as little practise as possible?" Mark Robinson: "No problem, Mooresy. Will 55 balls and only the two openers get to the crease do you?"
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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 19, 2014 16:15:21 GMT
The possible England team for tomorrow evening: Hales, Bell, Moeen Ali, Morgan (capt), Root, Bopara, Buttler, Bresnan, Jordan, Tredwell, Gurney. If Sri Lanka play like they did on Sunday, England will find it tough especially with no Broad. One good thing though, this Oval T20 is a sell-out. And that's a Tuesday evening! www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/may/19/england-new-regime-adds-spice-t20-sri-lanka
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Post by stevehollis75 on May 19, 2014 18:49:24 GMT
I'd just like to point out that 4,986 was an official crowd figure given by the club media officer. Whether it was completely accurate is another thing but there was no guessing involved
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Post by mrsdoyle on May 19, 2014 18:58:08 GMT
More important from a spectators and marketing view why didn't he field first? A marketing disaster! How to woo new spectators into Hove! Make sure you don't see the best T20 team in the world play the whole match! It will take a lot for me to come along again to be short changed. A full bowl at SL would have allowed the bowlers to learn something. 1 over is a waste. However the 2 batsmen were a class above. How do they do it? They don't have overseas stars playing for local teams. Is it all about giving a chance to your own and having the best players talking and coaching them? Time the Sussex management learnt this? I doubt it though. The mentality is to buy short term. Finally, SL to thrash England based on what I saw yesterday. I see your point but I am not sure that it would have worked out as any more interesting even had Sri Lanka batted first. They would probably have set us 250 and either we would have got bowled out trying in vain to chase, or the game would have petered out with our replying with a lame 126. I just enjoyed watching Malinga bowl and Dilshan bat in person rather than on my TV screen.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 19, 2014 22:35:16 GMT
steve, Many thanks for that. Shows how listening to the gate stewards can be an error. I was told on sunday that friday evening's official attendance was 4,600, yet Bruce Talbot in his report stated 5,000. I wonder how an official attendance figure is gauged? One presumes those carrying media passes, staff passes, the hierarchy, players families and friends, invited guests of the club, VIPS, commercial vendors etc.. are not included in the figure. And how does the hospitality side work? For a T20, is it just based on the ticket slips given in from the two ground entrances? Perhaps, the club's media officer can respond? If he has time, of course.
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