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Post by hhsussex on Apr 24, 2015 20:42:33 GMT
Whilst Samuel's salute made me laugh I can't help but suspect that had Broad or Stokes done that they would have been accused of disrespecting the opposition. Unlike the ECB and the WICB whose scheduling, team selection and pitch preparation constitute complete disrespect for spectators and cricket enthusiasts worldwide. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 20:54:43 GMT
What drives me absolutely nuts is the vacuity of cricket writers who react in the most extreme and non-Kiplinesque way to "triumph and disaster", which they can never treat as "just the same".
One reporter has hailed a decent day three by England in Grenada by frothing, "These are exciting times. A new team, unburdened by the past, unencumbered by fear, unwearied - as yet - by the schedule is coming together. It promises much."
Yet only last week (and over pretty much the entire winter) the same writer was insisting that England were ireedemable losers. Presumably, at the time "we are crap and hopeless" made better copy.
If England fail to force the win tomorrow, the same writer (and others, too, I'm sure), will no doubt revert to the previous, contemptuously expressed view that we're rubbish.
This reactive day-by day 'we're utter crap/we're on the verge of a new golden era' dysfunctional reporting is just meaningless verbiage.
In pre-digital days, one could get away with such inconsistencies. You had to go the national newspaper library at Collingwood and read last month's papers on microfiche to discover what contradictory reports journos had filed. Over the years, I spent many days - and indeed weeks - at Collingwood on research projects (and at the National Archives in Kew). Now all the same material is accessible from home on the Internet.
Which is why this day-by-day instantly reductive 'we're great/we're crap' dichotomy is such transparent nonsense.
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Post by hhsussex on Apr 25, 2015 7:59:18 GMT
What drives me absolutely nuts is the vacuity of cricket writers who react in the most extreme and non-Kiplinesque way to "triumph and disaster", which they can never treat as "just the same". One reporter has hailed a decent day three by England in Grenada by frothing, "These are exciting times. A new team, unburdened by the past, unencumbered by fear, unwearied - as yet - by the schedule is coming together. It promises much."
Yet only last week (and over pretty much the entire winter) the same writer was insisting that England were ireedemable losers. Presumably, at the time "we are crap and hopeless" made better copy. If England fail to force the win tomorrow, the same writer (and others, too, I'm sure), will no doubt revert to the previous, contemptuously expressed view that we're rubbish. This reactive day-by day 'we're utter crap/we're on the verge of a new golden era' dysfunctional reporting is just meaningless verbiage. In pre-digital days, one could get away with such inconsistencies. You had to go the national newspaper library at Collingwood and read last month's papers on microfiche to discover what contradictory reports journos had filed. Over the years, I spent many days - and indeed weeks - at Collingwood on research projects (and at the National Archives in Kew). Now all the same material is accessible from home on the Internet. Which is why this day-by-day instantly reductive 'we're great/we're crap' dichotomy is such transparent nonsense. Back to space-filling from that writer, and when he does that he always slips over into hyperbole. The Famous Four! What about Timmy the dog, why doesn't he make it? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 11:22:31 GMT
What drives me absolutely nuts is the vacuity of cricket writers who react in the most extreme and non-Kiplinesque way to "triumph and disaster", which they can never treat as "just the same". One reporter has hailed a decent day three by England in Grenada by frothing, "These are exciting times. A new team, unburdened by the past, unencumbered by fear, unwearied - as yet - by the schedule is coming together. It promises much."
Yet only last week (and over pretty much the entire winter) the same writer was insisting that England were ireedemable losers. Presumably, at the time "we are crap and hopeless" made better copy. If England fail to force the win tomorrow, the same writer (and others, too, I'm sure), will no doubt revert to the previous, contemptuously expressed view that we're rubbish. This reactive day-by day 'we're utter crap/we're on the verge of a new golden era' dysfunctional reporting is just meaningless verbiage. In pre-digital days, one could get away with such inconsistencies. You had to go the national newspaper library at Collingwood and read last month's papers on microfiche to discover what contradictory reports journos had filed. Over the years, I spent many days - and indeed weeks - at Collingwood on research projects (and at the National Archives in Kew). Now all the same material is accessible from home on the Internet. Which is why this day-by-day instantly reductive 'we're great/we're crap' dichotomy is such transparent nonsense. Back to space-filling from that writer, and when he does that he always slips over into hyperbole. The Famous Four! What about Timmy the dog, why doesn't he make it? His report on day four is headed "England's desperation to win waxes and wanes". A bit like his prose, really! |
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Post by invicta1977 on Apr 25, 2015 12:42:57 GMT
It's funny but, having enjoyed two lovely days at Chelmsford and Hove this week, I'm almost entirely indifferent to what's happening in Grenada.
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Post by coverpoint on Apr 25, 2015 17:46:53 GMT
That was why Trott was recalled to the England squad! What about giving Lyth a chance?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 20:11:36 GMT
That was why Trott was recalled to the England squad! What about giving Lyth a chance? 63 runs in four innings and ducks in both Tests says that Lyth has to replace Trott. But the cry will no doubt go up 'we can't change a winning team' (even though they did just that only a few weeks ago when they jettisoned Robson to bring back Trott). Nobody can now take the number 3 slot away from Ballance. And with Bell and Root entrenched at 4 and 5, that means the only position for Trott is as an opener - a position in which he has in this series been out 3rd ball, 15th ball and 3rd ball. If that doesn't prove he's not suited to the job, I don't know what does. But his decline long predates his unfortunate crack-up under fire from Mitch Johnson. The stats tell a story - Trott scored 9 centuries in his first 40 Tests , and none in his last 11Tests, during which time he has averaged a meagre 24. Ballance, by the way, has just passed 1000 runs in only his tenth Test. Great win. But as Colin Gravedigger told us, the Windies really are "mediocre" ! |
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Post by leedsgull on Apr 26, 2015 6:31:46 GMT
And where exactly is KP supposed to bat? Perhaps his supporters can answer that? He is yesterdays news.
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Post by howardh on Apr 26, 2015 6:45:51 GMT
Who?
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Post by flashblade on Apr 26, 2015 7:24:32 GMT
And where exactly is KP supposed to bat? Perhaps his supporters can answer that? He is yesterdays news. Unfortunately for KP, there are no middle order slots up for grabs. And that is probably the best way to achieve closure on this whole sorry saga. Some might think Lord Graves only made his initial public 'invitation' to KP, as a means of galvanising the existing encumbents. |
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Post by coverpoint on Apr 26, 2015 7:35:53 GMT
And where exactly is KP supposed to bat? Perhaps his supporters can answer that? He is yesterdays news. Unfortunately for KP, there are no middle order slots up for grabs. And that is probably the best way to achieve closure on this whole sorry saga. Some might think Lord Graves only made his initial public 'invitation' to KP, as a means of galvanising the existing encumbents. KP supporters will suggest Root should be opening. |
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Post by flashblade on Apr 26, 2015 7:51:54 GMT
Unfortunately for KP, there are no middle order slots up for grabs. And that is probably the best way to achieve closure on this whole sorry saga. Some might think Lord Graves only made his initial public 'invitation' to KP, as a means of galvanising the existing encumbents. KP supporters will suggest Root should be opening. Oh yes, let's just disrupt the team if it means we can accommodate the messiah. Seriously, who would dare move Root out of his current, highly successful position? You might suggest that KP will have to open if he's got to be shoe-horned into the side. |
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Post by coverpoint on Apr 26, 2015 8:05:42 GMT
I wouldn't dare move Root but there will be desperate clamours for someone to open so that Pietersen can be shoe-horned into the side.
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Post by flashblade on Apr 26, 2015 8:17:39 GMT
I wouldn't dare move Root but there will be desperate clamours for someone to open so that Pietersen can be shoe-horned into the side. Surely KP is good enough to open, even though lesser mortals might not be capable of doing so. |
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Post by moderator1 on Apr 26, 2015 8:24:21 GMT
A gentle reminder that this thread, unlike most other things in the cricketing universe, is not dedicated to KP  |
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